Silent Hill

Same, it's one of the toughest things I've tried to read. It's difficult to even see where someone would "read between the lines" and start bathing in Clorox. lol

I'll admit I kind of stopped reading after this point because it seemed to unravel into other topics that aren't really related to my comments. At a glance though, I'll let you take the win on Tucker Carlson keeping republicans poor, dumb and unhealthy. I'll also give you the W on Antifa not existing and the BLM riots being perpetuated by impressionable conservatives who were funded to wreak havoc. To the above though, I'd like to hear your thoughts on why systemic racism is only (or primarily) impacting schools in Democratic areas and not in Red areas. I'd assume the South would have a greater potential for racism. How about the recent story about the kid in Baltimore who was in the top half of his class with a .13 GPA? Surely he wasn't bogged down by "right wing misinformation", right? Surely its just a shit school with no resources failing those kids.

How am I defending him? His whole spiel that day was idiotic and anyone who actually attempted to use a household cleaner in that fashion by loosely translating what he was attempting to describe is even more idiotic. I'm not even complaining about the term "inject", just used it as a random example of intentional misquoting by the media, which was the initial topic/point. Anyone with half a brain, regardless of political affiliation would know that he was just talking out of his ass, per usual. Trump says dumb shit all the time, including the dialog we're discussing, and will continue to do so until the end of his time. Feel better? PS: I found the transcript of that statement and maybe it's just me, but I'm failing to see where he "suggested" that people use bleach, or other household cleaners on themselves. I read it as how you described: He had conversations with medical professionals on this topic and tried his hardest to pull together a coherent statement in real time. The shit below barely even makes sense the more I read it. lol A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful. Steve, please.

I'm not saying I wholeheartedly believe exactly why he said he did it, but he's clearly insane, so that reasoning isn't outside of the realm of possibility. I just don't have this constant urge to tie this crime back to a political party/person(s) or racism like some do. At best, nobody truly knows at this point so we have to assume that the current motive is accurate until other evidence is presented that points to a different motive. Not sure what you're getting at by saying that I "follow" Trump. Just an insult attempt? Trump's whole comment, even in context, was definitely uneducated at best. I don't believe for a second that he actually knew what he was rambling about, even if he thought he did. He just didn't flat out say to or suggest that others "inject bleach" which was the only point I was trying to make. It was reported as if he straight up told people to go out and do that and that there was some large swath of people doing it when in reality there was probably less than 50 people in the Country who were stupid enough to actually attempt it. To be fair, it was low-hanging fruit for the Media to jump on.

I don't know about "primetime fake news" but there are quite a few examples of left-wing journalism/media stirring the pot with false information, primarily throughout Trump's run. I mean, people still use "inject bleach" and "very fine people" among other quotes way out of context and inaccurately. And how many times do we still have to hear about Trump never denouncing White supremacy?

lol quite the storyteller

I didn't say it wasn't a crime against Asians, just that racism wasn't said to be the driving factor. I mean, you already went on a rampage why wouldn't you just be honest about why you did it? Clearly the guy has some serious issues and I just don't deny the possibility of sexual addiction to Asian women coupled with mental illness as the driving factor and tying it back to racism solely because of the victim's race, which is what the article (and general media coverage) seemed to do. And for this situation specifically, I don't see the correlation between "China Virus" and the reason behind the killings. Plus, what are the statistics behind the aggressors in these recent Asian hate crimes? Are they all Trump supporters? Are they all White supremacists? Not sure, but I could see that some percentage of the recent incidents have been related to COVID being tied to China, but not sure how big or small that percentage is. The rest of the incidents are similarly done by lunatics, but with different motives/reasoning. To the BLM statement, I didn't compare the two, but that article on Democracy Now seemed to. A few statements in there including BLM or the Black community like there's some parallel between the two, which I found odd. Like they were trying to frame the Asian community in a similar fashion.

Found that interview and I think it's a bit of a stretch to tie this recent incident to some overarching historic racism against Asians. It sounds like the reasoning behind the shootings was sexual addiction mixed with mental illness that drove him to that point, not solely a hatred of the Asian race, but that was quickly dismissed and was referred back to white supremacy and phrases like "China Virus" which I think is a bit disingenuous. "They said the gentleman said that he was — it was not because of a racial issue. He said it was because of a sex addiction, which is — we all know that’s not true, because of the rhetoric that has been placed all throughout this country, with people thinking that the “China virus” and things like that" Not sure off hand what the statistics are around the recent crimes against Asians. Were they all done by white people in the name of supremacy/racism? Were they all done because the virus in fact came from China? Just seems like that's what they want the crime to be tied to, even if the culprit said it wasn't. Who's to say what their true motive was? Regarding calls for increased hate-crime legislation and more police, she does say "And they’ve called in — they’ve called for more policing and surveillance, when community organizers have asked for the complete opposite." but she doesn't seem to expand on this to explain exactly what the "community organizers" are asking for. I also think it's odd when she claims that recent crimes are underreported because "our communities don't trust the criminal justice system". Wonder why their community would feel that way? I'm not aware of a negative disparity for the Asian population as it relates to police or the justice system. Overall it reads like a piggyback off of BLM when I don't think Asians face the same challenges that BLM stands against.

Looks like Operation Ceasefire was attributed to the drop in violent crimes, more specifically gang related shootings. Seems to include other local resources in conjunction with police to curb the violence. More police definitely isn't a guaranteed recipe for less crime, but there was a spike when resources were low, at least in Oakland's case. It appears that tactically deployed police/resources is a better approach. Not sure if Operation Ceasefire is still in place or if it isn't, and that's causing some of the recent increase in crime.

Oh even better. More police doesn't equal less crime. Wonder why the asians in Atlant are specifically saying they don't want more police there despite targeted murders?9 Maybe the solution should probably figure why a heavily minority city is has so much tension. I mean minoritys are disproportionately being killed by corona virus, laid off from jobs, following explicit years of political racism they should be calm and quiet. "At its purest, defund the police....organizers hope will lead to the complete abolition of police departments, prisons, and other carceral systems." "Organaizers in cities like Oakland insist that these difficult conversations do not represent an impasse that leaves the most vulnerable with difficult options: either keep the police in neighborhoods at current or higher levels or defund and be subject to shootings and higher crime" - What a shity sentence that encapsulates the whole article. The organizers didn't say anything, so the writer is making a point as if these two stupid options are both real and the only options available. The article correlates protestimg police to increasing murder rate. Unless the police are angry and killing people I don't understand the correlation. The Guardian and Vox are liberal garbage. I'm not saying that by default, the addition of police = less crime, but I wonder what's causing the violent crime spikes in some cities? Why is Minneapolis pushing money back into their system to hire more officers? Not sure what other approach there is to take when crime spikes like that. You ask a good question around why are these cities experiencing spikes if it's unrelated to police presence. PS: Where did you see that the Asian population in Atlanta is dismissing the idea of adding more police? Curious to see why that question was being posed and what their reasoning for declining additional police resources was.

That seems unnormal, even for them. I placed a Speedrun order on 10/16/20 and had the games back before Christmas.

Has any aid/resource been restricted based on race/gender? I would think that any factors would be non-personal like industry, location, revenue, etc. Seems unreal that, for example, two businesses within the same vicinity would have different access to resources solely based on the owner's race/gender. You're right that it's worded terribly and is easily interpreted that white/males are not a part of any "struggling class".

Anyone know of any further details behind Biden's plan? I'm struggling to see how prioritizing relief/resources based on race and/or gender is a positive thing. “Our priority will be Black, Latino, Asian and Native American-owned small businesses, women-owned businesses, and finally having equal access to resources needed to reopen and rebuild. But we’re going to make a concerted effort to help small businesses in low-income communities in big cities, small towns and rural communities that have faced systematic barriers to relief.”

She's really out of line for saying that the news outlets were the next to have their windows broken.

Good to see some folks step in and protect him in that clip. One positive thing I've seen come from this unfortunate event is that the general left seems to have started defending law enforcement again after demonizing them for the last ~7 months. I wonder if the extreme left is applauding the extreme right for this display of violence against law enforcement.

I wasn't going to i don't think the thread has to be derailed in that direction or other sub-topics in general. I'll take the hit for derailing by pointing out a racist comment.

I hope it's expected, I already said I wasn't going to debate further. Kudos on the reading comprehension. Oh, you mean the comment you made to someone else? Shame on me. PS: You chose to reply initially

If you can't see the huge difference in the immediate call for action he did that resulted in the immediate storming of the Capitol, I don't know what to tell you. Again, you're relying on weasel words to make it seem like there was some sort of equivalency. There isn't. You can directly trace what he said to what happened. Again, I'm not denying that whatever he said fueled what was happening (regardless of if people were going to breach with or without his social media statements), I personally don't excuse the quotes I shared just because I don't have a direct trail of proof between their comments and people's actions. I'll just assume that after comments like that, some people somewhere in the country contributed to the unrest.

Expected reply. Though you used Seinfeld, so bonus points are granted.

I think it's relevant to my point- marching on Capitol Hill and breaching aren't even in the same ballpark. Not surprised that it happened, or that you think marching=breach(and overthrow) to the nuts that were out there, all I'm saying is that if Trump stating to march on Capitol Hill was whipping people into a frenzy, then some shit like Maxine Waters spewed whipped some folks up too.

White people aren't the minority/marginalized in the US, so by definition that's not a racist comment. Prejudiced maybe. Nah, it's racist. Racist comments/stereotypes aren't less racist because it's directed at a skin color that reflects a larger percentage of the population. Don't be choosy, defend all stereotypes/racist comments, or none at all.

March or breach?

I'll take Racist Statements for $1000, Alex Flip that statement to another race and you'd be crucified here. (RIP Alex Trebek)