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I remember playing this in a kiosk before the GBA even came out, so it must be from that.

Anyone else see the trend of sellers moving away from dedicated webstores or ebay to go to the app WhatNot? I decided to try it out and was not a fan of it. It's live auctions that are scheduled, games sell in about a minute. I saw a lot of games go for more than they should be worth. I wonder if sellers are using this to get around eBay's new tax rules. I hope live auctions arent the future of buying videogames, I don't like this format at all.

Reddit also turns into a brag fest of what people buy. I like discussion of retro games more than some guy showing off what he bought on eBay.

Very interesting! Maybe this can somehow legitimize by neighbor's story! (Although no way did they know anyone in the press).

A few: -From my Neighbor at the time Smash 64 came out: Ness in Super Smash Brothers is from a game that's a sequel to "paper boy "called Pizza Boy, and for his moves he says "Pizza Fire and Pizza Thunder". I thought this was true until Melee came out and I unlocked the trophy that says Ness' story. -A retrogame store employee talking to a customer 3 years ago when asked about what the rarest video game is: My dad has the original Zelda Nintendo cartridge made of actual gold. It's worth at least 4 thousand dollars. -If you jump into the window above Peach's castle entrance in Mario 64 you can ride Yoshi -Use strength on the truck by SS Anne to get Mew. -Level all 3 starter Pokemon to 99 and they will turn into the 4th evolution

This is actually pretty likely to have happened. To what extent he did we don't know.

I suppose so. Retro gaming to me I guess was never a money thing. I started in the early 2000s when I was a teenager and the hobby was not expensive by any means with the exception of niche things like the TG16 or some rare Saturn games. The "collectors" were pretty much all players. I liked it at that time because everyone was genuine because you didn't have to have a high income to have a collection. I'm glad I've always been a bit of a hoarder of games. No way would I buy my current collection of games I own at today's prices. I don't know how anyone can get into the hobby of playing older games unless they do emulation or everdrives. Not hating on collectors by any means, everyone is different and the market is based on demand. Just miss the days when the hobby was smaller.

5-6 years ago was thinking of picking up Sonic Jam for Saturn (went for 60-70 dollars). Today I see it goes for 300-400 dollars. Yikes. I'm glad to have a modded saturn and a computer with a disc burner still. I feel everdrives and optical drive emulators are the future of this hobby.

I've noticed the same. I feel like Spring 2021 things were going crazy high. Now things have cooled down somewhat.

It's cool seeing everyone back. Where's NGD and Rhetoric?

Been on NA since 2007. I knew Dain was scummy for selling the site everyone donated to and contributed to (database). Had no idea he was a founder for Wata and sold the site to a Wata director. Yikes.

Very true! Good point!

Not saying there arent a lot of functioning ones still, but failures are becoming more common. I bought a PS2 and OG Xbox this year from people locally, both worked great initially had laser failures for me within a week or two of use. I've heard stories of people opening sealed PS2s and Xboxes and the lasers dont even work. It's definitely a consideration to make at the very least. I think in the future it will be very important to have modded laser based systems whether its an optical drive emulator or using the PS2 fat HDD/Network Adapter or Gamecube Action Replay. With the original Xbox the system EEProm locks the harddrive to that system, when you have harddrive failure on an unmodded system you are hosed.

PS1, PS2, and original Xboxes all now very commonly have laser issues. I think it's inevitable that unless someone just wants a copy for their shelf, no one will be buying these games to play them.

I'm not a big Shantae fan, but in summer 2020 was buying some wii u games I missed and almost bought it many times for 15ish dollars. Now it's going for 60. Twilight Princess HD now sells for 80. Yikes

Honestly I think its best to just go to ebay and look at sold listings. The pricecharting site is thrown off by things like demo discs or japanese copies.

I think many would be amazed to find out that shovelware titles are much “rarer” than many of the titles that people attach “rare” to today. Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn and Earthbound are not rare at all and most likely have many more copies produced than things like “Imagine: Doctor” for the DS. The true “rare” games/items are the things that don’t ever show up on ebay. It’s funny when a game can have 50+ listings on ebay at any given time and people think it is rare. There are many “valuable” and “sought after” games that are not rare at all. Look at Atlus titles for practically any system and how the prices go up over the years despite them all having fairly decent print runs.

Honestly I can’t imagine many enthusiasts for 80s/90s/2000s videogames 30 years from now. Most of the “Rare” titles won’t be in the wild anymore but you will probably see collector’s ditching their items as they get into older age and simplify/downsize. As much as we enjoy collecting, I can’t imagine people’s spouses/children seeing thier collection as anything but a massive burden to get rid of once they pass on. Are people in their 70’s / 80’s going to bother with the hassle of trying to collect old video games? Availability is already practically non existant in garage sales/ thrift stores. I expect disc rot to be a huge issue as well as detioration of circuit boards to come into play. Rechargable battery systems like the PSP, DS, and GBA SP will not have any batteries that can hold a charge. Disc based systems will all need laser replacements with normal use (most PS1s and PS2s already need a new laser). No one will want to collect for a large portion of PS4/XB1 games and on since a good portion of those require updates from servers that will no longer exist. I don’t expect young folk born 30 years from now to have any interest in video game systems that came out 80 years before they were born.

There is a theory that I noticed with collecting over the years that I’d like to call the “Gamestop Theory”. I feel that in many regards Gamestop is and always was the price setter for used games. In the early 2000s Gamestop / EB Games / Funko Land all carried classic games and consoles. Their prices seemed on par with ebay at the time for popular titles (most popular titles 10-20 dollars, RPGs/rarer titles for 30 dollars), for shovelware/licensed titles no one wanted you would have prices at ranging from 25 cents to a dollar for many games. 2004 is when Gamestop announced they would no longer purchase NES, Gameboy, PS1, SNES, N64, Genesis, and Dreamcast games. 2008 is when I saw the price of games from these consoles start skyrocketing online. I think this is also the start of the popularity of the youtube gaming era, a lot of which highlighted classic gaming. Fast forward to 2012 and Gamestop discontinues trading in Xbox, Playstation 2, and Gamecube games. Gamecube had started to become collectible before this discontinuation, but prices weren’t even close to the levels that would follow. Now Gamestop currently sells PS3, Wii, DS, and Xbox 360 games, and I belive they still do accept trade ins, but each store has fewer and fewer titles from these platforms. I am almost certain that once Gamestop stops selling seventh generation games that in a few years a collector’s market on those platforms will follow. I truly believe that Gamestop is an entity that can keep game prices normalized, so long as they sell them. What are your thoughts on this? Am I crazy for thinking this?

All, noticed a thread about really high priced items and figured it would make sense to also have a general collecting pricing / trends thread. Here we can post about current trends or pricing as well as speculate on where we think pricing will be in the future. So now (May 2021) I can say from personal experience I am noticing a trend of Wii and Playstation 2 prices starting to get higher. I am mostly looking at common/popular titles and not the sought after stuff, so I’m not entirely sure how the “rare’ Wii/PS2 games are faring. The prices aren’t close to getting into the crazy territory quite yet for most games on these systems, however popular titles that were a few dollars last year are now going for about 12-20 dollars. I am not a collector personally, but utilized this period of time to start getting games I want to play or regretted selling back in the day. I’d rather jump in while the games I want are relatively fairly priced than risk the prices going high. Someone locally had a Facebook Marketplace posting for “wii games”, I showed up and was able to get a lot of great titles, they were just clearing out their garage and were happy to get rid of them. I must’ve been the first to inquire because she told me that during the 10 minutes it took me to drive to her place 7 people had called her about the games and to her “they all sounded like resellers” and she was happy to sell to me because I seemed genuinely excited about the games. This also makes me think that the popularity of this generation of consoles is going up. I am also seeing Nintendo DS prices going for a bit more than they used to be, I think that system may be another contender for picking games up sooner rather than later for those that are looking for certain titles.

Hi everyone, I used to be very active on Nintendoage around 2007-2011ish (under a different username though). Glad to see that despite what happened to the site that VGSage was created.