fcgamer | 4,738 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 7 hours ago, twiztor said: this is just my take: @Code Monkeybought a fake prototype game. It sucks, but we're past the point that Paypal/credit card/banks/whoever are going to do something about it. Caveat Emptor. @EternaXalso bought a fake prototype game, but also subsequently sold it. Again, we're past the financial security periods. All that being said, the best way to settle this between yourselves. My recommendation would be to make another deal. Eternax could/should offer a better deal than he normally would. CodeMonkey gets a little bit more bang for his buck. What this looks like in practice is up to you, and i don't know if that's even something either of you are interested in. But a potential solution to alleviate some of what happened. I agree with this. If I made a deal for a prototype and discovered it was a fake fifty years later, should I be entitled to a refund, especially if the guy who sold it was not a fraudster either? At what point is the line drawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, fcgamer said: I agree with this. If I made a deal for a prototype and discovered it was a fake fifty years later, should I be entitled to a refund, especially if the guy who sold it was not a fraudster either? At what point is the line drawn? I can answer that. The law states the statute of limitations on selling counterfeit property is 5 years, which means any legal action can happen up to 5 years after the offence. Also, the police can seize any finances related to the transaction for up to 5 years. https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/liability-for-selling-counterfeit-goods.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,927 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) How much is a lawyer going to cost to get that 2000$ back? Take it as a learning experience. You have been buying up as much as possible, spend some time verifying sources, see if the chain of command is realistic. Pal prototypes from a german via USA? Does that sound right? Ask the nolans or frank cifaldi first. @ThePhleo forgot to tag you, as someone dropped your name. Curious if you have insight. Edited February 10, 2023 by MrWunderful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyree_Cooper | 760 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Also, a year on Mars is 687 days, so you can use this to your advantage if you live up there. Gives you almost double time for legal action. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,738 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: I can answer that. The law states the statute of limitations on selling counterfeit property is 5 years, which means any legal action can happen up to 5 years after the offence. Also, the police can seize any finances related to the transaction for up to 5 years. https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/liability-for-selling-counterfeit-goods.html Are people even allowed to be buying and selling prototypes? If they were legit, it would oftentimes be purchasing stolen property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, MrWunderful said: Ask the nolans or frank cifaldi first. Edited February 10, 2023 by Scrobins Removed for inclusion of others’ email address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrobins | 1,727 Moderator · Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 By request, I have removed images that included the contact information of other people. For future reference, please censor photos that include other’s contact information. You can reupload the photo of the transaction if you redact or crop out the email address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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