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I’m not sure I understand the question tbh?

You rock Am, thanks

No not really but sometimes theses things are discussed in the Facebook group which you’re welcome to join any time

thanks. There's lots of cool stuff out there but also lots destroyed or owned by corporations unfortunately. As a rough guide only 10% of the NES stuff is in private hands. Maybe we get to 15 or 20 percent one day? BUt never 60 or 80. Capcom from mega man 3 until the date tings went digital is generally out there. Everything else is real spotty.

What’s your rabbit hole and what is the quality of the titles remaining? If common/typical stuff just sell given your changing interests. If it’s good stuff think harder.

Tip of the iceberg (!) as things like Nicol Bolas planeswwlker from the set earlier in the year went 40k. Only a few new ones have gone over 40 but lots have gone over 25. From looking at jace I would think that’s digital, and from the cards notoriety I’d guess that if it was traditional it would be an easy six figures not five figures. It’s pretty nuts out there. And yeah artists like Terese Nielsen and Rebecca Guay and Chris Rahn and so on must be cleaning up. Getting assigned to paint a powerful card is basically a 25k bonus for them. And again, this is for new stuff . The heat on anything powerful or interesting that’s pre legends is off the charts.

every single brand new set has at least a piece or three that sell for five figures yeah. Here's a transcript of some card from the new set. There's probably more valuable ones but its the first one I found. Again, this is brand new and not vintage. Anything from alpha is 50k up these days. UPDATE: We are at $16,500.00. Hello everyone. We have another new Howard Lyon painting for The card Fabled Passage from the upcoming Throne of Eldrane Magic the Gathering set. It is being auctioned exclusively in the MTG Art Market starting now and ends on Monday October 7th at 11:00 Eastern Standard Time. This is a nice sized piece with the Dimensions being 16 x20 inches oil on linen on Gatorboard. A small note. The floating Lilly pad with a Lotus on it on the left side of the tree was digitally moved further away from the tree under Wizards direction. Howard and I both prefer it where it was originally painted. This is a highly playable card. It’s better then Evolving Winds. Looking for an opening bid of $3000.00. Please bid in $50.00 minimum increments. If any bid is placed with in 10 minutes of the auction ending, 10 minutes will be added from the time of that bid until there are no bids within the 10 minute period of time. Please make all bids by PM'ing me directly or by placing your bid on this original thread in the MtG Art Market Facebook page. Bidding amount does not include shipping charges from Utah. Payment by Pay Pal sent directly to Howard. Payment may be broken up into 3 equal payments over 2 months. Howard will also include foil 1/30 artist proof. Good luck, Mark Aronowitz and Howard Lyon. PS. Howard will be out of the country till October 18th. Once back he will ship.

1) you (as an established collector) are really not whom those articles are pointed at, and there's only so much you can say in one. You have to dumb it down a bit same way if you were starting out in say coins you'd want things dumbed down a bit too. 2) Personally, I'm really skeptical about the effectiveness of 'articles' anyways. We've all read these stories. Cabbage patch kid sells for 1,000 or Coin sells for a million, or elvis' bellybutton hair sells for 100k. Have ANY of those stories ever resulted in a reaction from you that beyond 'heh would you look at that'? An article doesn't make someone want to change the entire direction of their collecting energy and use of resources. If you read an article tomorrow about the skyrocketing prices of vintage dolls would you really go out and spend everything you had on dolls? Of course not. Converting someone from one hobby to another is really difficult. It takes one on one conversations, and repeated exposures to the material, and more than anything the 'target' has to think of all this is a good idea. All the articles in the world aren't going to result in new collectors (or not very many). Its the other stuff that is drawing people in. The discussions at trade shows, the connections with other collectors, the look at the material and wondering WTF they weren't collecting this already, that kind of stuff. Without those other more important things an article gets read for 20 seconds and then recycled and completely forgotten about by the next day.

Either destroyed or lost to the community. Not the same artist.

yes that’s right time walk sold for a mil. The moxes a little less. In a way what’s crazier to me is the price some of the brand new stuff gets. 25-40k for some of the new planes walkers where the paint isn’t even dry yet. ydwen efreet is for sale at next HA auction, should do well.

I don’t think anyone said that, as we’ve seen some big cib prices on select material. It’s mostly on sealed though. Not exclusively you’re right .

Thanks a lot, that’s very kind. From your username I’m guessing you’re into mtg? Follow mtg art?

Depends what we are defining a hobbyist as. If we are defining it as a ‘gamer’ as many people around here seem to do then all you need are roms or similar things like NES classics. You’re not (only) a ‘gamer’ if you buy games you dislike for your set (Barbie, anticipation etc) or if you buy boxes etc. You’re a collector. If we are defining it as a collector that’s a bit trickier. The gist of what you are saying is good but it’s getting into murky waters quickly unless you never ever sell a single item and that describes very few people indeed. Anyways, that’s not really the point - you might be a little more from column A or a little more from column B, but you’re almost certainly not at either extreme.

it’s really more emotion than theory IMO

Here’s a pic for ya

10k is entry level at this point for an NES cover. Blades of Steel is more like A- and even mutant virus is more like B-. D list is like.... Poker Face Paul for Game Gear. E and F are like.... little CD rom educational game covers or something

I get that. But I don't think experience supports that. Let me explain. Everyone here is somewhere on a continuum between pure hobbyist and pure speculator. The guys that are pure hobbyist are the guys spending zero dollars on their collection and playing roms. The guys that are pure speculator are just trading widgets with zero appreciation of the item itself. (It could be pork bellies or concentrated orange juice, its a purely financial play for them). There is almost no one at the extreme ends. Most people in the hobby don't get a powerpak and quit (ie just get the roms and play). And almost no one who wants a purely financial play would do this since you can't leverage games, you can't insure them or at least its difficult to do so, you can't buy at scale (call your broker and order 100 sealed MTPOs kind of thing), storage, fire and floods are issues, and there is just way too much 'hobby stuff' to learn to want to bother when you can invest in real estate or bonds or something. What does that imply? That the guys that are outbidding you... aren't that different than you. They have some love for the stuff too. It might be different than the way you appreciate it,and its true that your love for it might be 'deeper' but it also might not. All you really know for sure about those people is they like wheeling and dealing.

different strokes.

Further to the point, remember that this title was not distributed as a white seal for that long. Mike had his legal troubles, Nintendo cut ties, and we ended up with Punch Out and then Punch Out classic series. THOSE are the last versions of the game, those are the 'wrong thing.' A white seal is not really that late a copy because the truly late copies were a rebranded title. If I can believe the wikipedia launch date (oddly, DP doesn't have the launch date) then the Mr Dream version was released in August 1990 meaning white seal MTPO are from March 1989 to July 1990. That's not that late a date or that long a window which explains why they really aren't so easy to find.

Fair and honest comment. I get that POV.

I'm starting to 'increasingly suspect' you of being reasonable.

You know, that's a fair point.

The first copy or the second copy?

The title is not that common sealed in any variant and its a classic! This price makes more sense more than to me than some of the others I've seen.

Nothing gets resolved on the internet bro.