42 minutes ago, ZeldaFreak said:

Yeah I was gonna say, even though he misunderstood what it meant, he still actually did it very well, haha.

Yeah, like I said I do disagree with how limited you think it is, If it is proven to be true @MrWunderful, but in fairness I'm not an electrician so how would I know, and hey, even if it all turns out to be horseshit, still a really fun conversation to be having!

I still think it could be a huge leap on a much smaller scale (phones, semiconductors etc.) but scaling up is just unrealistic in such a small amount of time- relative

1 hour ago, a3quit4s said:

You did ELI5 or explain it like I’m 5 lol

i said AFAIK on teams internally to someone today and got called a millennial, yet didnt know what ELI5 meant so now Im confused

2 hours ago, a3quit4s said:

@MrWunderful can you ELI5 if I replaced all the copper in my house with whatever this shit is, what’s the benefit to me? I live in NY and have radiant steam heat and central air via outside unit and air handler. And ductless heat pump/AC for the basement game room. Main breaker in garage/sub panel in game room. 

EL15?

To answer the rest, almost nothing. Maybe 10% less on your electrical bill, MAYBE. I can’t provide a lot about the uses for this material in semiconductors and small for applications, but I can talk about it from an electrical construction perspective.

Great discussion tho, let me elaborate . Maybe this can add to clarification on scaling of the lk-99. 
 

For general residential/commercial/industrial wiring, having a “theoretical” conductor  that offers true zero resistance would definetly save on material costs for whoever is installing it.

Lets take a step back.

Every year, across the entire world, there are millions, and millions of miles of wire that are produced. Wires is fine as a human hair, all the way up to wires as thick as a half dollar. For LK – 99 to get anywhere near that the cost to produce would have to be equal to if not lower than copper. So that makes it feel very unrealistic.

For it to even exist at a consumer level, it Has to prove itself as superior on a commercial and industrial level.

but we’re gonna need some more information first. Can we put 4000a through something as fine and flexible as a hair? Because then I could see it saving more than what the numbers from the article show. 
 

But when you really look at the practicality behind logistics, supply chain production, etc. it doesnt make sense for it to even exist on a consumer level in our lifetime. We will be using copper/aluminum for power distribution until the day both our grandkids die. Maybe after that?

20 minutes ago, Link said:

This stuff, theoretically, mitigates such risks. I'm not saying we won't need codes. But that is an advantage, if this tech can be made workable. 

We are not going to replace everything with it, no. But it could be phased (heh) in via new construction and building stock attrition. There are still houses with plaster and lath walls, but now we use drywall. I don't see why there is a feasibility barrier or that it would be incompatible with existing wires. See also: fiberoptic comms.

You will always need codes, as cities always want the income from permit and inspection fees. But thats capitalism.
 

I get what you are saying, but splicing fiber is something that requires a super expensive machine and a very specific environment. Splicing copper needs a .03 c wire nut and some wire strippers. 
 

Re: compatibility, you would need everything that is connected to that material to be either the same durability, or higher. The circuit breakers act as the weakpoint in any building to “fail” (trip) before a component catches on fire. 
 

For it to be viable, it would basically need to be the same price, flexibility, etc as copper just “better”. And assume there is no dielectric corrosion like what happens when dissimilar metals touch.  
 

Fuses are literally a piece of copper designed to brake. Would we have copper fuseible links protecting something that theoretically would never melt? If you plug in an inductive load like a space heater, it would just draw power until something other than the lk-99 melted. 
 

TLDR: call me when its sold at home depot for 100$ for 250’ like 12-2 romex. 

1 hour ago, ZeldaFreak said:

Out of curiosity (This is coming from a place of total ignorance on my part to be clear, I am very very dumb) what makes you say that?

The amount of copper wiring in every house, in every building, in every city, in every country in the world is impossible to replace. 
 

Like how flexible is it? What is the bend radius? How do you splice it? Can you drag it across the ground? Can it be procured for under 1$/ pound? Will it work in wet locations? How is it in salty sea air and 135° summers?

The entire NEC (national electric code) in USA is designed around protecting copper and aluminum wire from melting or catching on fire. 

I could see it being revolutionary on a very small scale, like phones or computers. 
 

But electrical distribution, all the way down to the plug in your wall? No chance. For sure not in our  lifetimes, and It would almost have to be infinitely scaleable. 
 

but good question

1 hour ago, a3quit4s said:

It’s the only one I’m missing but the price of admission just to say I own it is way to high

Me too. Everybody of course wants top dollar for it too, and I am personally fine with the old “-1” set. Or you and I can piss everyone off and act like it doesn't count

As the resident electrician, I can safely say this will never replace copper and aluminum conductors. 
 

NEVER. 

45 minutes ago, Gloves said:

"Retail" is just such a difficult to confirm, regional, contextual, and frankly ridiculous way to categorize... anything. 

Why not just go straight for the throat and stick with something simple like "Authorized". Did it have the seal of approval, and if so was it actually put there with permission? Done and dusted, it's a simple yes/no. The moment you introduce anything more complex than that you're jumping into subjectivity and you're honestly just wasting time at that point.

Thats what we should do, but un-ambiguous “yes or no” leaves one party’s argument moot. 
 

“Retail” is in fact 100% irrelevant when talking about licensed/authorized or not. 
 

edit:

remember this thread?

8 hours ago, avatar! said:

'A myriad of concerns': America's number 1 trading partner isn't China anymore as relationship worsens — here's the country that tops the list today and why it's a big deal for the US

https://moneywise.com/news/economy/china-no-longer-us-top-trading-partner

Mexico officially replaced China in the first four months of 2023, the two North American countries having achieved total bilateral trade of around $260 billion, Census Bureau data shows. Over that period, Mexican imports to the U.S. were around $154 billion and U.S. exports to Mexico around $106 billion.

“Within a decade of its admission [to the WTO], critics increasingly accused China of flooding the world with cheap exports while limiting foreign access to its market,” Torres explained.

Chinese imports to the U.S. — both as a percentage of total imports and as a percentage of GDP — are now at the lowest they’ve been in 20 years, according to Axios.

“While Mexico benefits from increased trade with the U.S., the impact on U.S. producers and consumers has been mixed,” Torres wrote. “To the extent that frictions with China account for Mexico’s ascension in the trade rankings, the higher profile comes at a cost to U.S. firms and consumers through higher input and purchase prices.”

China is, was, and will be, engaging in unlawful practices including stealing intellectual property at every chance they can get! Mexico and the USA do not see eye-to-eye on many things, but that said, both countries are Western democracies and have close cultural and historic ties. So at the end of the day, fuck China, and hello Mexico!

I would love to have an improved relationship to a border country over china. Enjoy russia, Xi!

@Gloves didnt want to start a new thread. 
 

what is the best way to address game stores that have closed in the gamestore section? Send the person that created the entry a message? 
 

I believe only the gamestore entry creator can show it as open or closed, or am I wrong?

Just now, Gloves said:

If "sold at retail" is the only qualifier, then all the bootleg DVDs my parents bought when I was a teen at the corner store in our ghetto ass side of the city were apparently legit.

40 minutes ago, Ankos said:

That would be useful. I was under the impression that we were going with anything originally sold off of store shelves. I guess we could narrow it down to specific types of stores, but how goods are sold are going to vary a bit from place to place

Just saying, if an argument on legitimacy is based on “being sold at retail”, it should be defined. 
 

An international chain store?

A regional chain store based on franchises?

A local detritus/junk store chain with 3 locations owned by a single Small business owner?

A back alley flea market that happens to put price tags on things?

21 minutes ago, RegularGuyGamer said:

Not a Bodega 

Oh you mean “any place that sells stuff” doesn't count? Interesting

46 minutes ago, Gloves said:

I dunno what an MLS is, but I was referring to this: 

 

That was a good thread. 
 

And It was a joke, as I assumed you had no idea what it was (the official United states soccer league “major league soccer”) @FireHazard51 what team? Earthquakes man myself, but looking forward to the womens “bay fc” 

22 minutes ago, Gloves said:

This feels... familiar...

Are you an MLS fan?

What if we specifically defined “retail” tho

Old pudding fingers meatball ronnie will still be begging for scraps

9 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said:

I'd go all in on a Chris Christie and Mitt Romney ticket just to confuse the living shit out of everyone  

Old Mitt dont want the mouth breathing trump cultists harassing him way too rich and chill. 
 

Any Republican that takes him on is going to feel the full incel onslaught of the always online crowd. 

Trumps main lawyer is a realestate attorney lol

no real lawyers will go near him. Powell, Wood, Eastman and Guiliani have been or will be disbarred.  
 

Im looking forward to watching him drown under the full weight of the real americans at the DOJ, and attorney generals of Georgia and New York. The final shoe from Georgia hasn’t even dropped yet.
 

I’m not exactly a huge Biden fan, but will vote for a plastic bag full of Hillary Clintons and Anthony Fauci’s shit before anyone with an R in front of their name, unless maybe Chris Christie. But still probably not. 

1 hour ago, Code Monkey said:

It wasn't robots.

 

Which helps my case, thank you

37 minutes ago, mbd39 said:

Warriors of Rome II

 

Good pull. I have one if nobody else does

1 hour ago, docile tapeworm said:

Flight of the navigator? “Compliance”

He was in a ton of stuff. Film and tv according to wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Reubens

@everyone else that doesnt get it. If you know, you know.

3 hours ago, a3quit4s said:

I’m still very suspicious that any money actually changed hands for the sale of that game. Or if you count heritage transferring money from their offshore account to their American account then sure. 

That money did, im sure.
 

However, Buying something like that with manufactured hype that has no comparable items of that scale, drove up the “lower” graded (as in, not the highest) along with minty sealed for the hope that you get the next 1 mil plus game.
 

Which if you had the capital, you could snatch up as much of that pre purchase lower-high grade slabbed and mint raw games for the after purchase flip.

My future moneys on no game sells for over a mil again outside of some other historical/pop culture context. 
 

Also, how did something packaged on an assembly line like 30 million others by a robot magically be in so much better amazing condition

4 hours ago, MrWunderful said:

Is someone involved with any of the pandemic graded game shadiness selling it? Maybe 10 mil. Or 100 milion. A billion? 

I want to clarify the statement. I edited because I did not want to insinuate that anybody who actually worked for the company there would be in on it.  That seems very unlikely. I do believe, in my opinion, that these “big spenders” that were spending insane amounts of money during the height of the craze at the pandemic are not entirely ethical. 
 

The guy here that sold it, is 100% legit and a trust worthy guy. I would wager the majority of collectors that buy and sell are legitimate as well.