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Are There 5 Screw Versions Of The Karate Kid And Side Pocket?


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I made a list of all NES games with release dates and it looks like every game available prior to January 1988 has a 5 screw version except The Karate Kid and Side Pocket. They were both late releases in November 1987 along with some other rares like Mega Man and Star Force so I'm wondering if they just haven't been discovered yet. Here is the pre-1988 sheet I made.

 

10-Yard Fight Irem Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Baseball Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Clu Clu Land Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Duck Hunt Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Excitebike Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Golf Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Gyromite Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Hogan's Alley Nintendo Research & Development 1,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Ice Climber Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Kung Fu Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Mach Rider Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Pinball Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Stack-Up Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Super Mario Bros. Nintendo Research & Development 4 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Tennis Nintendo Research & Development 1,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Wild Gunman Nintendo,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Wrecking Crew Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985
Popeye Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986
Mario Bros. Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986
Donkey Kong Nintendo Research & Development 1,Nintendo Research & Development 2 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986
Donkey Kong 3 Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986
Donkey Kong Jr. Nintendo Research & Development 1,Nintendo Research & Development 2 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986
Donkey Kong Jr. Math Nintendo Research & Development 2 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986
Urban Champion Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo August 1986
Balloon Fight Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo August 1986
Gumshoe Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo August 1986
Tag Team Wrestling Data East, Sakata SAS Data East Unreleased October 1986
M.U.S.C.L.E. TOSE Bandai Unreleased October 29, 1986
Ninja Kid TOSE Bandai Unreleased October 29, 1986
Chubby Cherub TOSE Bandai Unreleased October 29, 1986
Ghosts 'n Goblins Micronics Capcom Capcom November 1986
Commando Capcom Capcom Unreleased November 1986
1942 Micronics Capcom Unreleased November 1986
Karate Champ Data East, Sakata SAS Data East Unreleased December 1986
Gradius Konami Konami Konami December 1986
Trojan Capcom Capcom Capcom February 1987
Volleyball Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo March 1987
Slalom Rare Nintendo Nintendo March 1987
Soccer Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo March 1987
Pro Wrestling Nintendo Research & Development 3 Nintendo Nintendo March 1987
Track & Field(NA)
Track & Field in Barcelona(EU)
Konami Konami Kemco April 1987
Rush'n Attack Konami Konami Konami April 1987
Ikari Warriors Micronics SNK SNK May 1987
Castlevania Konami Konami Konami May 1987
BurgerTime Data East, Sakata SAS Data East Unreleased May 1987
Solomon's Key Tecmo Tecmo Tecmo July 1987
Section Z Capcom Capcom Capcom July 1987
Rygar Tecmo Tecmo Tecmo July 1987
Kid Icarus Nintendo Research & Development 1,TOSE Nintendo Nintendo July 1987
Athletic World Human Entertainment Bandai Nintendo July 1987
Mighty Bomb Jack Tecmo Tecmo Tecmo July 1987
Metroid Nintendo Research & Development 1,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo August 1987
Elevator Action Micronics Taito Unreleased August 1987
Athena Micronics SNK Unreleased August 1987
Arkanoid Atlus Taito Unreleased August 1987
The Legend of Kage TOSE Taito Unreleased August 1987
The Legend of Zelda Nintendo Research & Development 4 Nintendo Nintendo August 22, 1987
Tiger-Heli Micronics Acclaim Entertainment Acclaim Entertainment September 1987
Winter Games Atelier Double Acclaim Entertainment Unreleased September 1987
Ring King Jastec, Neue Design Data East Unreleased September 1987
Stinger Konami Konami Unreleased September 1987
Star Voyager ASCII Acclaim Entertainment Unreleased September 1987
Double Dribble Konami Konami Konami September 1987
Stadium Events Human Entertainment Bandai Bandai September 1987
Spelunker Tamtex,TOSE Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987
Sky Kid Namco Sunsoft Unreleased September 1987
Sqoon Home Data Irem Unreleased September 1987
Spy Hunter Sunsoft Sunsoft Unreleased September 1987
3-D WorldRunner Square Acclaim Entertainment Unreleased September 1987
Lode Runner Hudson Soft Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987
Deadly Towers Lenar, Tamtex Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987
Raid on Bungeling Bay Hudson Soft Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987
Rad Racer Square Nintendo Nintendo October 1, 1987
Zanac Compile FCI Unreleased October 1987
Lunar Pool Compile FCI FCI October 1987
Alpha Mission SNK SNK SNK October 1987
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Nintendo Research & Development 3 Nintendo Nintendo October 1987
Top Gun Konami Konami Konami November 1987
Super Pitfall Micronics Activision Unreleased November 1987
Jaws Atlus,Escape/Westone LJN Unreleased November 1987
The Karate Kid Atlus LJN Unreleased November 1987
Gotcha! The Sport! Atlus LJN Unreleased November 1987
Kid Niki: Radical Ninja TOSE Data East Unreleased November 1987
The Goonies II Konami Konami Konami November 1987
BreakThru Data East Data East Unreleased November 1987
Star Force Hudson Soft Tecmo Tecmo November 1987
Side Pocket Data East Data East Data East November 30, 1987
Wizards & Warriors Rare Acclaim Entertainment Acclaim Entertainment December 1987
Mega Man Capcom Capcom Capcom December 1987
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Id would agree that those were never released as 5 screws ... I would figure at least 1 would have surfaced by now as well. but you never know ... it definitely is possible as maybe there was only just a very, very few.

Id like to know why MUSCLE, Gumshoe, Soccer, and stack Up (there might be another one, Sqoon ? i cant remember) were only released as 5 and no 3 screw. maybe those titles just didnt get a later print release like the infamous, Stinger ?

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20 minutes ago, jxmx3 said:

Id like to know why MUSCLE, Gumshoe, Soccer, and stack Up (there might be another one, Sqoon ? i cant remember) were only released as 5 and no 3 screw. maybe those titles just didnt get a later print release like the infamous, Stinger ?

Since Stack-Up is a ROB game, I can't imagine they'd make too many more after they stopped production on the Deluxe Sets and ROB himself. Heck, since they're all Famicom boards/adapters, I imagine they just did the one run at launch and called it good.

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All those 5 screw games should have only had one print and were never reprinted later (Stinger, Gumshoe, MUSCLE, Stack Up, Sqoon, Chubby Cherub, maybe one more?).  All the rarer 3 screw games (Volleyball, DK, DKJr, Gyro) were all reprinted very late 1987.  I think a 3 screw Soccer was found but either it was a refurb or Canadian.  I can't recall.  But if it was reprinted, you should be darn sure one would have popped up by now, as they all would be 3 screw and at least a few thousand.

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Maybe, dont know that one off the top of my head but I'll take your word.  I should clarify that if any 5 screw game was reprinted, the reprints were not done in the 'active' 3 screw era (late summer of 87 I think).  Also those are the earliest 3rd party published titles which also make sense they're dipping their toe in the pool for the new game system.

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3 hours ago, guitarzombie said:

Maybe, dont know that one off the top of my head but I'll take your word.

I don't know for certain, either, but Ninja Kid, MUSCLE, and Chubby Cherub were Bandai's first three releases on the NES. I don't recall Ninja Kid being popular enough to warrant a reprint.

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Might not have been a reprint but there is a 3 screw Ninja Kid. I also remember it took me a while to find Goonies 2, Alpha mission, Super Pitfall 5 Screws, not super rare but uncommon. The other 5 screw only is Clu Clu Land. I believe Stinger was re-released at some point in a 3 screw variant ... there is a post somewhere with pics of the cart and of the REV-A box. Not 100% sure this is correct but the rumor i heard about the 3 screw, non hangtab box Gyro was it was only released with the special Deluxe set that also came with Stack up when they were phasing  it out.  

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4 hours ago, jxmx3 said:

Might not have been a reprint but there is a 3 screw Ninja Kid. I also remember it took me a while to find Goonies 2, Alpha mission, Super Pitfall 5 Screws, not super rare but uncommon. The other 5 screw only is Clu Clu Land. I believe Stinger was re-released at some point in a 3 screw variant ... there is a post somewhere with pics of the cart and of the REV-A box. Not 100% sure this is correct but the rumor i heard about the 3 screw, non hangtab box Gyro was it was only released with the special Deluxe set that also came with Stack up when they were phasing  it out.  

There is some debate with this because IIRC NES Gansta was the ONLY person to find 3 Screw Stingers and they all had the same print code date as the 5.  BUT someone said they had sold a rev-a sealed Stinger, or something like that.  We couldn't find pictures but it seems to be INCREDIBLY strange it would have such a low run.  Any of the rarer 3/5 screw games they are more 'abundant'.  Im always suspect with any game where theres only like 3 known copies.  If it was reprinted there should be PLENTY more.  Just like the Mike Tyson with the fami adapter.  It just DOESN'T make sense at all there is only one.  There should be at least a few more.  Also would be easy to spot because it would be impossible to add the screw in the middle since it doesn't have the space for it unlike all the other fami adapter 5 screw games (Hogans Alley, Pinball, etc)

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2 hours ago, guitarzombie said:

Just like the Mike Tyson with the fami adapter.  It just DOESN'T make sense at all there is only one.  There should be at least a few more.  Also would be easy to spot because it would be impossible to add the screw in the middle since it doesn't have the space for it unlike all the other fami adapter 5 screw games (Hogans Alley, Pinball, etc)

That one was weird, because I think we'd just talked about it on NA and like a short time later one pops up. 🤔 I didn't say anything at the time, but in my mind that was awfully fortuitous.

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2 minutes ago, Tulpa said:

That one was weird, because I think we'd just talked about it on NA and like a short time later one pops up. 🤔 I didn't say anything at the time, but in my mind that was awfully fortuitous.

Just remembering now and need some clarification on this.  The GOLD Punch Out came first without Tyson.  THEN the US version with Tyson, THEN the japanese version with Tyson correct?  And the japanese version is a bit different than the US on the title?  It seems awfully strange when all the black box famidapter ones are identical to the US releases, even after the xmas 85 fiasco.

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16 hours ago, Tulpa said:

Yeah, Gold was first, then MTPO NES, then MTPO Famicom, each separated by about a month.

I don't know if the titles are different from the NES and Famicom MTPO. I think they're the same, a picture of Tyson and saying he's waiting for your challenge.

I thought it was something small like it didnt have the copyright date or something.  Next time quote me so I know you replied!  haha

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