Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I made a list of all NES games with release dates and it looks like every game available prior to January 1988 has a 5 screw version except The Karate Kid and Side Pocket. They were both late releases in November 1987 along with some other rares like Mega Man and Star Force so I'm wondering if they just haven't been discovered yet. Here is the pre-1988 sheet I made. 10-Yard Fight Irem Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Baseball Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Clu Clu Land Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Duck Hunt Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Excitebike Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Golf Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Gyromite Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Hogan's Alley Nintendo Research & Development 1,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Ice Climber Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Kung Fu Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Mach Rider Nintendo Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Pinball Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Stack-Up Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Super Mario Bros. Nintendo Research & Development 4 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Tennis Nintendo Research & Development 1,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Wild Gunman Nintendo,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Wrecking Crew Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo October 18, 1985 Popeye Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986 Mario Bros. Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986 Donkey Kong Nintendo Research & Development 1,Nintendo Research & Development 2 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986 Donkey Kong 3 Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986 Donkey Kong Jr. Nintendo Research & Development 1,Nintendo Research & Development 2 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986 Donkey Kong Jr. Math Nintendo Research & Development 2 Nintendo Nintendo June 1986 Urban Champion Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo August 1986 Balloon Fight Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo August 1986 Gumshoe Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo August 1986 Tag Team Wrestling Data East, Sakata SAS Data East Unreleased October 1986 M.U.S.C.L.E. TOSE Bandai Unreleased October 29, 1986 Ninja Kid TOSE Bandai Unreleased October 29, 1986 Chubby Cherub TOSE Bandai Unreleased October 29, 1986 Ghosts 'n Goblins Micronics Capcom Capcom November 1986 Commando Capcom Capcom Unreleased November 1986 1942 Micronics Capcom Unreleased November 1986 Karate Champ Data East, Sakata SAS Data East Unreleased December 1986 Gradius Konami Konami Konami December 1986 Trojan Capcom Capcom Capcom February 1987 Volleyball Nintendo Research & Development 1 Nintendo Nintendo March 1987 Slalom Rare Nintendo Nintendo March 1987 Soccer Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo March 1987 Pro Wrestling Nintendo Research & Development 3 Nintendo Nintendo March 1987 Track & Field(NA) Track & Field in Barcelona(EU) Konami Konami Kemco April 1987 Rush'n Attack Konami Konami Konami April 1987 Ikari Warriors Micronics SNK SNK May 1987 Castlevania Konami Konami Konami May 1987 BurgerTime Data East, Sakata SAS Data East Unreleased May 1987 Solomon's Key Tecmo Tecmo Tecmo July 1987 Section Z Capcom Capcom Capcom July 1987 Rygar Tecmo Tecmo Tecmo July 1987 Kid Icarus Nintendo Research & Development 1,TOSE Nintendo Nintendo July 1987 Athletic World Human Entertainment Bandai Nintendo July 1987 Mighty Bomb Jack Tecmo Tecmo Tecmo July 1987 Metroid Nintendo Research & Development 1,Intelligent Systems Nintendo Nintendo August 1987 Elevator Action Micronics Taito Unreleased August 1987 Athena Micronics SNK Unreleased August 1987 Arkanoid Atlus Taito Unreleased August 1987 The Legend of Kage TOSE Taito Unreleased August 1987 The Legend of Zelda Nintendo Research & Development 4 Nintendo Nintendo August 22, 1987 Tiger-Heli Micronics Acclaim Entertainment Acclaim Entertainment September 1987 Winter Games Atelier Double Acclaim Entertainment Unreleased September 1987 Ring King Jastec, Neue Design Data East Unreleased September 1987 Stinger Konami Konami Unreleased September 1987 Star Voyager ASCII Acclaim Entertainment Unreleased September 1987 Double Dribble Konami Konami Konami September 1987 Stadium Events Human Entertainment Bandai Bandai September 1987 Spelunker Tamtex,TOSE Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987 Sky Kid Namco Sunsoft Unreleased September 1987 Sqoon Home Data Irem Unreleased September 1987 Spy Hunter Sunsoft Sunsoft Unreleased September 1987 3-D WorldRunner Square Acclaim Entertainment Unreleased September 1987 Lode Runner Hudson Soft Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987 Deadly Towers Lenar, Tamtex Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987 Raid on Bungeling Bay Hudson Soft Brøderbund Unreleased September 1987 Rad Racer Square Nintendo Nintendo October 1, 1987 Zanac Compile FCI Unreleased October 1987 Lunar Pool Compile FCI FCI October 1987 Alpha Mission SNK SNK SNK October 1987 Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Nintendo Research & Development 3 Nintendo Nintendo October 1987 Top Gun Konami Konami Konami November 1987 Super Pitfall Micronics Activision Unreleased November 1987 Jaws Atlus,Escape/Westone LJN Unreleased November 1987 The Karate Kid Atlus LJN Unreleased November 1987 Gotcha! The Sport! Atlus LJN Unreleased November 1987 Kid Niki: Radical Ninja TOSE Data East Unreleased November 1987 The Goonies II Konami Konami Konami November 1987 BreakThru Data East Data East Unreleased November 1987 Star Force Hudson Soft Tecmo Tecmo November 1987 Side Pocket Data East Data East Data East November 30, 1987 Wizards & Warriors Rare Acclaim Entertainment Acclaim Entertainment December 1987 Mega Man Capcom Capcom Capcom December 1987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Its been 'theorized' but not one has ever surfaced. Id say after this long, it probably was never made. People also think theres a 5 Screw RC Pro Am but im very positive it was a refurb. I think only one copy exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jxmx3 | 11 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Id would agree that those were never released as 5 screws ... I would figure at least 1 would have surfaced by now as well. but you never know ... it definitely is possible as maybe there was only just a very, very few. Id like to know why MUSCLE, Gumshoe, Soccer, and stack Up (there might be another one, Sqoon ? i cant remember) were only released as 5 and no 3 screw. maybe those titles just didnt get a later print release like the infamous, Stinger ? Edited November 11, 2019 by jxmx3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,492 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, jxmx3 said: Id like to know why MUSCLE, Gumshoe, Soccer, and stack Up (there might be another one, Sqoon ? i cant remember) were only released as 5 and no 3 screw. maybe those titles just didnt get a later print release like the infamous, Stinger ? Since Stack-Up is a ROB game, I can't imagine they'd make too many more after they stopped production on the Deluxe Sets and ROB himself. Heck, since they're all Famicom boards/adapters, I imagine they just did the one run at launch and called it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 All those 5 screw games should have only had one print and were never reprinted later (Stinger, Gumshoe, MUSCLE, Stack Up, Sqoon, Chubby Cherub, maybe one more?). All the rarer 3 screw games (Volleyball, DK, DKJr, Gyro) were all reprinted very late 1987. I think a 3 screw Soccer was found but either it was a refurb or Canadian. I can't recall. But if it was reprinted, you should be darn sure one would have popped up by now, as they all would be 3 screw and at least a few thousand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,492 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 hours ago, guitarzombie said: All those 5 screw games should have only had one print and were never reprinted later (Stinger, Gumshoe, MUSCLE, Stack Up, Sqoon, Chubby Cherub, maybe one more?). Ninja Kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Maybe, dont know that one off the top of my head but I'll take your word. I should clarify that if any 5 screw game was reprinted, the reprints were not done in the 'active' 3 screw era (late summer of 87 I think). Also those are the earliest 3rd party published titles which also make sense they're dipping their toe in the pool for the new game system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,492 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, guitarzombie said: Maybe, dont know that one off the top of my head but I'll take your word. I don't know for certain, either, but Ninja Kid, MUSCLE, and Chubby Cherub were Bandai's first three releases on the NES. I don't recall Ninja Kid being popular enough to warrant a reprint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jxmx3 | 11 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Might not have been a reprint but there is a 3 screw Ninja Kid. I also remember it took me a while to find Goonies 2, Alpha mission, Super Pitfall 5 Screws, not super rare but uncommon. The other 5 screw only is Clu Clu Land. I believe Stinger was re-released at some point in a 3 screw variant ... there is a post somewhere with pics of the cart and of the REV-A box. Not 100% sure this is correct but the rumor i heard about the 3 screw, non hangtab box Gyro was it was only released with the special Deluxe set that also came with Stack up when they were phasing it out. Edited November 14, 2019 by jxmx3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesmaster | 402 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The 3 screw Ninja Kids I've seen had no hangtab boxes. Less common from my looking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, jxmx3 said: Might not have been a reprint but there is a 3 screw Ninja Kid. I also remember it took me a while to find Goonies 2, Alpha mission, Super Pitfall 5 Screws, not super rare but uncommon. The other 5 screw only is Clu Clu Land. I believe Stinger was re-released at some point in a 3 screw variant ... there is a post somewhere with pics of the cart and of the REV-A box. Not 100% sure this is correct but the rumor i heard about the 3 screw, non hangtab box Gyro was it was only released with the special Deluxe set that also came with Stack up when they were phasing it out. There is some debate with this because IIRC NES Gansta was the ONLY person to find 3 Screw Stingers and they all had the same print code date as the 5. BUT someone said they had sold a rev-a sealed Stinger, or something like that. We couldn't find pictures but it seems to be INCREDIBLY strange it would have such a low run. Any of the rarer 3/5 screw games they are more 'abundant'. Im always suspect with any game where theres only like 3 known copies. If it was reprinted there should be PLENTY more. Just like the Mike Tyson with the fami adapter. It just DOESN'T make sense at all there is only one. There should be at least a few more. Also would be easy to spot because it would be impossible to add the screw in the middle since it doesn't have the space for it unlike all the other fami adapter 5 screw games (Hogans Alley, Pinball, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,492 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, guitarzombie said: Just like the Mike Tyson with the fami adapter. It just DOESN'T make sense at all there is only one. There should be at least a few more. Also would be easy to spot because it would be impossible to add the screw in the middle since it doesn't have the space for it unlike all the other fami adapter 5 screw games (Hogans Alley, Pinball, etc) That one was weird, because I think we'd just talked about it on NA and like a short time later one pops up. I didn't say anything at the time, but in my mind that was awfully fortuitous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tulpa said: That one was weird, because I think we'd just talked about it on NA and like a short time later one pops up. I didn't say anything at the time, but in my mind that was awfully fortuitous. Just remembering now and need some clarification on this. The GOLD Punch Out came first without Tyson. THEN the US version with Tyson, THEN the japanese version with Tyson correct? And the japanese version is a bit different than the US on the title? It seems awfully strange when all the black box famidapter ones are identical to the US releases, even after the xmas 85 fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,492 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Yeah, Gold was first, then MTPO NES, then MTPO Famicom, each separated by about a month. I don't know if the titles are different from the NES and Famicom MTPO. I think they're the same, a picture of Tyson and saying he's waiting for your challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Tulpa said: Yeah, Gold was first, then MTPO NES, then MTPO Famicom, each separated by about a month. I don't know if the titles are different from the NES and Famicom MTPO. I think they're the same, a picture of Tyson and saying he's waiting for your challenge. I thought it was something small like it didnt have the copyright date or something. Next time quote me so I know you replied! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksTreat | 8 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Ive yet to see either karate kid or side pocket with 5 screws, however I can confirm RC Pro Am exist, I have one with security screws, prolly left over shell. Refurb carts usually have no back label, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid | 424 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Here is a list of differences between the punch out versions https://tcrf.net/Mike_Tyson's_Punch-Out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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