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    TurboGrafx LOVE (and all NEC love in general)

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    On 1/8/2023 at 4:05 PM, AirVillain said:

    Thanks.... well, the boxes aren't super minty as they've got some wear around the edges, but their colour is good so I was stoked regardless. Unless you were making a joke based on my comment... in which case, haha... yeah... "super minty, bro!". 😅

    I was curious about the "Free Bonk!" sticker.... figured it could go either way, either be kinda rare, or be the sticker they slapped on Bonk because it was the most popular.

    Sucks that the OG TG16 controller doesn't work on the Duo (seems like an odd change?) but good that the PCE one does I guess... 🤷‍♂️

    The "free Bonk" sticker means that the game was included in the box with a new TG-16 when NEC was trying to increase system sales. Those are two of my favorite games, period - huge fan of Bonk's Adventure especially, an out-and-out classic up there with Super Mario World as one of the best 16-bit platform games.

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    Over 70% of all game sales in 2022 were digital downloads

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    Quite a few physical games this generation aren't even really all there, since a lot of them need patches to work properly. I don't see the attraction in wanting a PS5 game in 10-15 years when they've turned off the servers to download the patches, although maybe there will be fan servers you can use.

    Having recently moved, I certainly can understand those who want less things in their life.

    TurboGrafx LOVE (and all NEC love in general)

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    On 11/7/2022 at 10:09 PM, attakid101 said:

    This post aged pretty well haha

    Some of you may know that I recently lucked into a decent Turbo collection. At first I was thinking of just reselling it but now I think I want to check out more of the library and maybe build on the collection a little. But I kind of feel out of my element.

    Turbo collecting is more complicated than I thought! I have questions:

    Did all TG16 games come in cardboard boxes?

    I see games listed as CIC—are these considered complete?

    What’s  up with the jewel cases? Are they the same dimensions as standard CD cases? Do they have back art? What’s up with the spine labels? Are they original? Aftermarket? 

    What about the inside of the jewel cases? I know there’s an internal component that holds the HuCards in place. How can I obtain that component? Do I have to  cannibalize other games to get it? 

    Suppose I don’t want the cases, how should I store/display my games/manuals?

    Which console version should I get?

    Game recommendations?

    1. All the TurboChip games came in cardboard boxes. The early TurboChip games came with a hard plastic case inside the cardboard box, while the later TurboChip games just had a plastic tray to hold the TurboChip instead. All TurboChip games also came with manuals. CD games are a mixed bag - some early ones like Fighting Street did come in a cardboard box with CD case inside, while later ones just had the case and no outer cardboard box.

    2. "CIC" - complete in case - is not complete for TurboChip games since you don't have the cardboard box. However, these boxes are difficult to find (not to mention expensive), so many people don't bother collecting them. Think of NES boxes and how many people just collect carts.

    3. They are the same dimensions as CD cases, but different since they used a unique mold for holding the TurboChip instead of a disc. There's no back art on the cases (remember, they were sold inside cardboard boxes that had back art of their own for display in a store). The spine labels are original, except for later TurboChip games that included no case and, thus, no spine labels. Some people have produced aftermarket spine labels for those games that did not include a case if you want them.

    4. There's a small plastic arm that holds the TurboChip in place along with a plastic sleeve for the chip itself. The exception is Keith Courage, which came in a case with no plastic arm (just like PC Engine games in Japan). If you get a legit U.S. case it should include that little plastic arm unless it's Keith Courage.

    5. I've seen people use plastic sleeves that fit into binders to hold the games/manuals or even make ghetto cases out of CD cases. Someone else may have a better idea.

    6. The Duo is awesome, although it's incredibly expensive these days. I believe Japanese systems may be cheaper, but the chip games are not compatible without an adapter. The CD games will play in either region's systems.

    7. You've got a great collection already! 🙂

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    Game Debate #124: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

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    I've beaten it but I did quit and come back to it later, despite getting it on release. It seemed a huge step down from LTTP and I still hold that view. The gameplay is in most ways inferior and it was sad going around mostly empty areas like the central field. I loved exploring the map in LTTP and it wasn't nearly as fun in OOT. Still a good game but also clearly surpassed by its successors. 6/10

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    Biggest rip off games

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    1 hour ago, CMR said:

    Battle of Olympus is a Zelda II clone as far as the side scrolling mechanics go.  IMO it's as close as Krion Conquest is to MegaMan 2.  I almost wonder if they didn't swipe some of Nintendo's code.

    Disagree. There's no overworld portion in Battle of Olympus and when you get into it the game plays a lot different. It's also better than Zelda II in every way and one of my favorite NES games. Everyone who played Zelda II and was disappointed should try Battle of Olympus to see how a side-scrolling adventure game should be made. And if you liked Zelda II you'll adore Battle of Olympus 🙂

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    TurboGrafx LOVE (and all NEC love in general)

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    53 minutes ago, AirVillain said:

    No no, you're all good. 

    Interesting. It's a whole new world learning about TG. 

    What do the different colours mean? Pardon my ignorace, I know I could likely find this information by searching online.... but I also enjoy the banter and insight that people here provide. 🤗

    For your reference as someone learning about the system:

    • Early TurboChip (HuCard) games came with: outer cardboard box (these are a huge pain to find at this point in time), styrofoam block (like an NES game), plastic case, manual, HuCard, plastic sleeve for HuCard
    • Late TurboChip games = outer cardboard box, clear plastic tray inside box, manual, HuCard
    • Early CD games = outer cardboard box, styrofoam block, CD case, manual, CD
    • Late CD games = CD case, manual, CD

    All games were sealed in shrinkwrap from the factory, but no Y-folds on at least the cardboard boxes (I can't remember offhand for the CD games).

    Also, I'm not sure on the colors. I thought at one point they indicated genre but that's just a guess.

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    TurboGrafx LOVE (and all NEC love in general)

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    2 hours ago, AirVillain said:

    🤔

    I did not know this. Also wasn't trying to be accusatory, as I thought it might have been a language thing, but I see you're from West Virginia 😆

    I'm new to the Turbo scene, so out of curiosity... How would a noob like myself even tell (it wasn't a real case) by looking at that? 

    Looks like the other Turbo games, haha. I guess an actual collector just knows there weren't cases for those games?  🤣🤷‍♂️

    Hey no worries, sorry if I came off as defensive or something in my reply (it wasn't meant to be). They are real TG-16 cases, just that I've replaced the original labels with ones people sell for those who want to put their games that came without cases in cases so that they match on the shelf.

    As @Dr. Morbishelpfully mentioned, at the end of the system's lifecycle they released games that came in cardboard boxes with clear plastic inserts that held the HuCard and manual, but no hard case like those included with the earlier Turbo games.

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    TurboGrafx LOVE (and all NEC love in general)

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    1 hour ago, Brickman said:

    One quick way to check fakes for pc engine games is to check the code on the ring of the CD. Could be the same for TG16 games.

    Thanks. I actually just checked my Bonk 3 CD (which I know is legit because I got it direct from TTI back in the day) and it's very similar, just with different numbers which I assume is true for each game - for example also checked Shape Shifter which is the same but a different number, and Exile Wicked Phenomenon which similarly has a different number but also has "Made in U.S.A." stamped on the inner ring. But my Sword Master has a different style altogether, which makes me wonder if there were different styles of disc used for different games - anyone know if there is an authoritative source of info on that sort of thing? But I do think it's probably unlikely pirates would be able to match the exact type of disc?

    SUNSOFT is back !

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    Gremlins 2 is an excellent game, plays really well and you've got that awesome Sunsoft music they almost always seem to come up with. If anybody hasn't tried it, especially if you liked other Sunsoft games, give it a try, you won't be disappointed.

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