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Black Knight Pinball - Trashed Drop Target Coil


SNESNESCUBE64

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Symptom: Lower left drop targets not resetting when all three are knocked down.
Troubleshooting Steps:
The first thing that I do whenever I deal with a non-functional coil is I check the coil itself. On a pinball machine, it is super easy to do this typically. The first thing you would do is remove the lock bar and playfield glass. Next, be sure to remove the balls themselves. This is an important step, as when you are lifting up the playfield, they can free themselves from the trough, potentially causing damage to the plastics or if you are REALLY unlucky, the back glass. After the balls are removed, lift up the playfield and secure it on the kickstand (or whatever means that particular unit has for doing such. For Black Knight, it has a kickstand so that makes it easy.

Upon visual inspection of the coil, I could see that it is super burnt, meaning that it was constantly engaged for way too long. You should be able to move the piston that solenoid pushes with your hand under normal circumstances and it should move smoothly. This one however was seized, indicating that the coil or sleeve needed to be replaced. This case was a bit extreme, so the coil is just going to be replaced. This happens for a few reasons: return side of the coil is shorted, the switch telling the mainboard to engage it was stuck, or something in the drive circuit was damaged. The drive transistor is typically the first place I check if there are no visible shorts, as those fail pretty often as they are hard working.
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Looking at the manual, it was really easy to identify which part of the circuit to look at. You can typically find pinball manuals online on websites like ipdb.org. Each manual is different, but manuals by Williams typically were comprehensive. Table 2 and 4 told me the solenoid number (02), what coil to replace it with, and which drive transistors were involved.
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With the transistor in question identified, I could easily take a look at the board. The only problem, is that Williams did NOT use silkscreen on the gameboards during this time, so you have to refer to the component layout diagram in the manual. You can also double check the schematics to make sure there wasn't a mistake, as well see the rest of the circuit to inspect.
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So now looking at the board, I could see little balls of solder on the cooling mount tab and discoloration, a strong indicator that it got pretty hot. At this point, I was fairly confident that this was the issue. The 2N4401 that drives the drive transistor could also have failed, but that happens a lot less than the drive transistor itself as it is working with a lot less. The 7408 could also fail, but many times you would see multiple coils having issues. So I decided to just replace the drive transistor at Q17 with a TIP102.

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After replacing the drive transistor, the coil performed as it should. In order to avoid excessive coil damage like this, make sure that your solenoid fuse is the correct value (the manual has that information and there is typically a fuse chart in the back box) and if you see or hear a solenoid fire and get stuck, it is a good idea to turn off the game and investigate. Coils are still made but are more expensive than a simple switch adjustment, just replacing the drive transistor or coil sleeve, and fuses are cheap so use the right value.

Solution: Replace bad solenoid and Q17 (TIP102)

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Having the schematics makes everything so much easier to diagnose and repair. Fun fact if you ordered parts from Steve Young’s Pinball Resource his warehouse is about 5 minutes from me. I’ve been in there a bunch for parts for my High Speed. He also supplies coils and diodes and lots of other stuff to Game Room Guys and all the online shops like them. I’ve watched the guys at his warehouse make coils and other parts, it’s really cool. 

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17 hours ago, a3quit4s said:

Fun fact if you ordered parts from Steve Young’s Pinball Resource his warehouse is about 5 minutes from me.

Neat. I've never ordered from Steve personally. My goto is Marco Pinball if the shop I work for on the weekend doesn't have what I need. They have been awesome. Very cool that they can make their own coils though, it is super important that folk still make em.

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1 minute ago, SNESNESCUBE64 said:

Neat. I've never ordered from Steve personally. My goto is Marco Pinball if the shop I work for on the weekend doesn't have what I need. They have been awesome. Very cool that they can make their own coils though, it is super important that folk still make em.

He probably supplies them too. He actually bought like all of Gottliebs original machine parts to make their plastic pop up targets and stuff like that. His factory is a gold mine of parts for almost any pinball machine you can think of

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2 hours ago, a3quit4s said:

He probably supplies them too. He actually bought like all of Gottliebs original machine parts to make their plastic pop up targets and stuff like that. His factory is a gold mine of parts for almost any pinball machine you can think of

No doubt their stock is big. Their partnership (or ownership, not sure what the deal is) with Gottlieb is actually a source of frustration for me. They are the only source for Gottlieb manuals as Gottlieb is very litigious over the rights to the manuals. For context, most manuals are available on ipdb.org, but not Gottlieb manuals. It makes it much more difficult to service games, especially solid state ones, because of this. The only place to get them as far as I am aware is pinball resource who makes new copies for a fee. Not sure if these shinanigans are connected, but it's part of the reason of why I don't work on those machines as much.

It actively makes my job harder and hurts people who want to keep these Gottlieb machines going. Granted they are my least favorite machines to work on due to the hardware they used (I can rant for hours about that one), but the blocking of public information is really annoying.

Pinball resources is an interesting remnant of the past, they are more like an old catalog as you have to mail a check and order form, no online payments. I'm sure I'd use them if I needed a part I can only get through them. Glad they are still making parts though, it's good to have resources.

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1 hour ago, SNESNESCUBE64 said:

No doubt their stock is big. Their partnership (or ownership, not sure what the deal is) with Gottlieb is actually a source of frustration for me. They are the only source for Gottlieb manuals as Gottlieb is very litigious over the rights to the manuals. For context, most manuals are available on ipdb.org, but not Gottlieb manuals. It makes it much more difficult to service games, especially solid state ones, because of this. The only place to get them as far as I am aware is pinball resource who makes new copies for a fee. Not sure if these shinanigans are connected, but it's part of the reason of why I don't work on those machines as much.

It actively makes my job harder and hurts people who want to keep these Gottlieb machines going. Granted they are my least favorite machines to work on due to the hardware they used (I can rant for hours about that one), but the blocking of public information is really annoying.

Pinball resources is an interesting remnant of the past, they are more like an old catalog as you have to mail a check and order form, no online payments. I'm sure I'd use them if I needed a part I can only get through them. Glad they are still making parts though, it's good to have resources.

If you let me know which ones you need he probably has them, I dunno if he will sell but I can take photos

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3 minutes ago, a3quit4s said:

If you let me know which ones you need he probably has them, I dunno if he will sell but I can take photos

Thanks, but I should be good for a while. When the time comes I will source a manual, although I don't forsee myself working on any in the near future. Mostly Bally, Data East, and Williams pins for me :).

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21 minutes ago, SNESNESCUBE64 said:

Thanks, but I should be good for a while. When the time comes I will source a manual, although I don't forsee myself working on any in the near future. Mostly Bally, Data East, and Williams pins for me :).

Oh he has manuals for everything in there. If you’ve seen Harry Potter it looks like the room of requirement in there when it’s all filled with books hahaha

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