ThePhleo

4 hours ago, DefaultGen said:

I halfheartedly tried to make something like this as a collecting goal list, but it gets confusing quickly and I didn't feel like researching the development credits of every single game Nintendo ever had their name put on.

Rhythm Tengoku is developed by Nintendo SPD, but the music, which you'd call a critical part of the game, is credited to other companies. F1 Race on Game Boy was developed by R&D1, but it's a port of a HAL Laboratory Famicom game. You start trying to make this "truly Nintendo developed games" list and like every other list, it's full of subjective calls and exceptions and it will drive you mad.

It just takes someone bold enough to say

“Here’s a list assholes. Figure out your own rules, jerks”

Sorry for your loss,

A life well lived it seems though.

Rest In Peace Dave.

Does the city own the museum?

If not, then what right do they have to do this? Something isn’t adding up to me.

SCHN is probably code for "Simplified Chinese"?

Neat!

22 minutes ago, Code Monkey said:

You forgot one level deeper........print runs. Each variant may have been reprinted multiple times with differing date codes on the tabs. So one variant may have multiple print runs. That's how I'm separating mine in the mobile application.

It's addressed a different way.

A "Variant" of a "Game" isn't just a box. It's a whole pattern of CIB contents.

Also, I'm writing down date codes as a mutli-line entry on the box's page like this:

Known Date Codes (for this box variant): [No Code], 81021, 90122, etc. etc.
Known Bottom Flap Codes(for this box variant): [No Code], 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

Just now, phart010 said:

Do you not see that what is happening to the Palestinian people right now is a mass act against humanity? People are being killed indiscriminately.

Just for reference, Ukraine has lost 30k combat fighters in like 20 months. These were people fighting the front lines expecting to die. Palestine has lost more than half of that in one month and half of them are children.

Yep, I see it and it's a travesty and very hurtful seeing photos of dead babies on the internet.

There is no justifying it, yet one side has to push until diplomacy loops back around and becomes an option again, or until the other side just doesn't exist...like every. single. war. ever since the past 12,000 years of human civilization.

19 minutes ago, phart010 said:

Sorry buddy. Again your Israeli sources have deceived you. 

Here is the actual survey they were referencing.

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public Opinion Poll - Gaza War 2023.pdf

i24news has deliberately lied about what it says in the survey. The survey says 68% of respondents report their support for a 2 state solution has declined. The liars have instead reported that it says 68% STRONGLY supported the massacres and kidnappings.

Please check your sources before spreading misinformation

14 minutes ago, phart010 said:

You see how dangerous misinformation can be. Because of this false reporting, you think it’s ok to wipe out 68% of Palestinians. 

I support the immediate elimination of any emancipated person who supported what happened on October 7 with haste, the same way I support the immediate elimination of anyone who supports the Nazi gas chambers, or Crusades, or Rape of Nanking, or any other mass act against humanity that happened in history.

I am a Romani (aka gypsy) and I am fortunate that in recent decades my people have managed to blend in, but the Jews are our comrades in misery and I support them, knowing that if they fall, I am next.

But yes, the reports do seem false, so ok I'll give you that. edit: also, if I were a decision making person in this war I wouldn't trust the news, I can only gauge so much as a powerless bystander in this war and voice my opinions that war is bad, no side is good, but the side that wants total elimination of the other is probably the bad one.

And again, if Hamas wants to end the war, they can release the hostages and stop bombing, and if Israel truly wanted to end Palestine it would take less than a day.

7 minutes ago, Dr. Morbis said:

I meant only one US SMB box, but, I can see with you there is no end to the madness.  I don't know how you can sleep at night...

I know, I just had to get one more in.

No joke, I do not get much sleep because of this. My life would be infinitely better if I wasn't this deep into NES variant hunting, and my hobby has absolutely taken over a significant portion of my life that I could be better spending with my family and friends.

It's probably an addiction of sorts and I need to finally publish my data so I can finally rest BEFORE I die.

EDIT: Also, I forgot the YAPON Rental version of SMB...Forgive me Yamauchi-sama.

1 minute ago, Link said:

 

IT IS THE NINTIES AND THERE IS TIME FOR KLAX !!

OK, fine...I'll include the garbage

4 Letter Garbage

1. Klax
2. Q-Boy (Sachen - Maybe 5 if you count the -)

5 Letter Trash

1. 6 in 1 (Maybe more if you spell it different ways)
2. Tasac (Sachen)

Happy.

Longest is Pesterminator: The Western Exterminator. I aint counting but it looks like 35-40

5 minutes ago, Dr. Morbis said:

Yeah, I think it's awesome that you are recording all this for posterity and taking it to such a ridiculous degree, and I applaud you for it; I'm just saying that: outside of this niche within a niche within a niche, there is only one SMB box

Well..........

ASHLY....

6 hours ago, phart010 said:

This isn’t quite the same thing. Because in Nazi Germany, pretty much all of German society was called into action by force or coercion to serve the interests of the Nazis.

In Palestine, Most Palestinian people are just going to work or school and living life like regular people do. Hamas is operating underground like a group of rogue militants. It’s guerilla warfare.

Maybe many Palestinians people verbally sympathize with Hamas because they view this as a conflict between “us and them” but the reality is that they are not involved with Hamas, are not being coerced or forced to comply with any sort of terror operations, and are just trying to live their life the best they can.

The propaganda would have you think that Hamas is a sophisticated organization. For example, the Israelis recently justified taking over Shifa hospital saying that it was Hamas headquarters. They even had made videos showing a rendering of an underground base with meeting rooms, ammunition rooms, all kinds of crazy stuff.

Well they just released a video of the findings and what they had found was just a regular hospital with like two bags of ammunition, maybe 20 guns, a laptop and a stack of cd-roms. 

It is pretty clear that all of the hospitals in Gaza were either closed or destroyed not because of Hamas presence, but because they want to make life so unbearable for Palestinians that they will just leave their country.

The reason so many people died in Germany is because Nazism grew to become so intertwined with Germany society and they were actually becoming threat to the rest of the world. Hamas is hardly a threat to Israel’s existence. Netanyahu’s government is just using them as a tool to fulfill his interests. Unfortunately by the time all the info is vetted and we get all the facts and history laid out, the Palestinian people will probably already be dispersed into other countries as refugees.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1700158968-survey-finds-majority-in-the-west-bank-justify-the-oct-7-massacre

68% of West Bank STRONGLY supports the October 7 massacre.

And additional 16% supports it to some extent.

...their goal is QUITE LITERALLY the extermination of all Jews, and destruction of Israel, and making a comparison to Nazi Germany is somehow disingenuous.

wat

How about this then. We just delete the 68% of people who strongly support October 7. That seems like a fair compromise.

5 hours ago, DefaultGen said:

Yo, you guys are collecting cool data about a really important console and your questions are "What 5 character titles come to mind"

3 Characters

1. 720*
2. Qix

4 Characters

1. 1942
2. Goal*
3. Golf
4. Hook
5. Jaws
6. MULE*
7. Narc
8. SCAT*
9. Toki
10. Trog*

5 Characters

1. 8 Eyes*
2. Cabal
3. Hoops
4. Joust
5. Loopz
6. Orb 3D*
7. Rambo
8. Rygar
9. Sqoon
10. Xexyz
11. Yoshi
12. Zanac
13. Q Bert*

720° may be 4 characters if you count the "°" symbol.

Goal! and Trog! may be 5 characters if you count the "!" symbol.

MULE and SCAT may be 7 or 8 characters if you spell it with 3 "."'s or 4 "."'s

SCAT may be more if you include the subline "Special Cybernetic Attack Team"

8 Eyes may be 6 characters if you count the space.

Q*Bert may be 6 characters if you count the "*" symbol

Orb 3-D may be 6 or 7 characters if you count the "-" symbol, or space.

...the longest title is tied at 59 characters

1. Jack Nicklaus' Greatest 18 Holes of Major Championship Golf
2. Wizardry Master Series: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord

The next one back is 58 characters

1. Fox's Peter Pan & the Pirates: The Revenge of Captain Hook

However, it would 60 characters if you spelled "&" as "and"

2 hours ago, Dr. Morbis said:

The funny thing about this is that there are really NO variants for the SMB box - there's literally one box design and that's it!  It's just crazy how far you can go when you want to start nitpicking, and I'm pretty sure you don't have every "variant" listed above either, as there will be more super rare ones (or misprints or whatever) yet to be discovered.  But this isn't like silver Metroid versus yellow Metroid; for the rest of the universe, there is only SMB box...

Well....again "ackshtually"

There's two box designs.

It's never brought up because it's a redundant callout, but during the switch from Circle SoQ to Oval SoQ the layout of the back changes near the bottom.

NES Logo is completely different, copyright block and legal text changes, position of the NES-GP thing. Lots of stuff moves around.

BUT, yes I agree with you on this point.

You're gonna love what I'm working on when I publish it because I do split up "Box Changes" as unique editions, and everything else as variants.

The purpose is to make variants take a back burner position again, yet document that they exist. The structure of my database works like this.

GAME - The overall game, regardless of region

REGION - The "lockout" region, North America, PAL A, PAL B, Famicom, and "Others"

RELEASE - What we consider "subregions" or "marketing region", so the USA Release, or the Canadian release, or the Greek release (etc.)

EDITION - Think, Big Box Gyromite vs. Small box, or Blue box Untouchables vs. Black Box.

VARIANT - This is where all 12 of the SMB box variants I listed go. Yep, only one edition but 12 variants.

So to draw it all out...

I guess @Brickman you are correct...I am a little mad.

3 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said:

13 different variants that 99% of people will never notice.  Round vs Oval seal would be the only clearly noticed variation, the rest are so inane that most people would never know nor care about them.

Ackshually....well you're right. So much of it is obscure and tiny.

Super Mario Bros. (Boxes)

1. Circle, Hangtab, Matte Nintendo® Sticker
2. Circle, Hangtab, Gloss Nintendo® Sticker
3. Circle, Hangtab, Gloss Nintendo® Sticker, NES-GP
4. Circle, Hangtab, NES-GP
5. Circle, Hangtab, NES P SM
6. Circle, Hangtab, NES Logo ™
7. Circle, Flatback, No REV-A
8. Circle, Flatback, REV-A, No Flap Codes
9. Circle, Flatback, REV-A, NES-SM-USA Flap Code
10. Oval™, 3 Line Warranty, NES-SM-USA Flap Code, New Zip Code
11. Oval™, 4 Line Warranty without Mexico, NES-SM-USA★ Flap Code, New Zip Code
12. Oval®, 4 Line Warranty with Mexico, NES-SM-USA★ Flap Code, New Zip Code

Then I still can't confirm if these three variants exist:

1. Circle, No Sticker, No NES-GP (would probably go between box variant 2 and 3)
2. Circle, Flatback, REV-A, No Flap Codes, Flat UPC
3. Circle, Flatback, REV-A, Flap Codes, Flat UPC

Then there's the possible double sticker permutations...

1. Matte Sticker under Matte Sticker
2. Matte Sticker under Gloss Sticker
3. Gloss Sticker under Gloss Sticker, No NES-GP
4. Gloss Sticker under Gloss Sticker, NES-GP

45 minutes ago, G-type said:

by this (terrible) logic, everyone who didn't vote for them is innocent, which is the vast majority. (50% of the population is under age) and Hamas only received 44% of the vote. (Very slim victory over Fatah's 41%).. There have been repeated calls to hold new elections since 2010 which keep getting delayed or cancelled, and polling shows Hamas would have been unseated if it had gone through.

If Hitler was elected today with the explicit call to mass murder all Jews in his campaign, would we say that Germany was innocent?

How many children women and men died during WW2 because of the ones that voted in Hitler.

1 hour ago, xelement5x said:

Yeah, the goofiness around first print and all the inane details that US collectors focus on has always been odd to me.  I feel like the key value points from comic collecting (first appearance, first print, misprint, low print, etc) have all just been pasted on top of video game collecting due to early overlaps in the communities.  

There's a lot of factors about variants that make them so interesting. Take for example just Super Mario Bros. for the NES.

In the US, we have something like 13 different boxes for SMB. Just boxes alone!

20 minutes ago, Brickman said:

Sooooo, when is @ThePhleo becoming a regular host on CQ?

@phart010 The purpose of war is mass murder. It is the last resort when diplomacy doesn't work.

The word has been diluted the same way the word "Nazi" has been diluted, by overuse and exaggeration. A "Trade War" is not a war, and the "War on Drugs" and the "War on Terror" is not a war.

War is the most evil necessity of civilization.

You sacrifice your innocence, and put the blood of innocent civilians on your hands, in the hopes that your future generations can be innocent. Every combat soldier, every commander, and every war time leader is a murderer or an accomplice to murder. No holds barred.

--

Furthermore,

Hamas was elected by its populace. Elections have consequences, and if you choose to have someone who says they exist solely to wipe out another nation, then you are unfortunately an accomplice as well.

Lastly, the only innocent civilians in this war are the Palestinians denouncing Hamas and still getting killed as collateral damage, and the People of Israel and tourists who were kidnapped, raped, murdered, eviscerated, and chopped up on Oct. 7.

20 minutes ago, spacepup said:

I just wanted to clarify so that no one is confused.  You can't "buy" VGHF because it is a nonprofit organization.  An individual can't just buy the entity and 'own' their physical and digital assets.  Board members could change over time and individuals replaced - and sure, individuals can do something against the mission or not follow the organization's rules - but no one "owns" VGHF and it can't be sold.

Yep, I'm pretty sure technically speaking, all 501(c)3 organizations are owned by "We the People"

So, if you somehow were elected to the board, you can technically do a hostile takeover with enough votes.

The only way to protect your personal belongings in a charitable organization (which means you can no longer deduct for them by donating them) is by leasing out your property for (x) years and declaring a value for the license (for example, while you're President it can be $1 per year, but if you are ousted then you can arbitrarily raise that rate to $1,000,000 / year if you wanted once the lease is up)

3 hours ago, DarkTone said:

You could place a steaming pile of shit on screen for 2 hours, zelda fans would love it. 

Lord knows what happens when someone gives something zelda related less than 9/10...

Oh come on, don't even joke like that.

I don't think it's even possible to give a Zeldo less than a 9/10. Unless it's Spirit Tracks, or the CD-i games....8.9/10.

Nooooooo, I was supposed to retire off of Zelda manuals, and sealed Tecmo Bowl's.

2 hours ago, Gloves said:

Still the best video in existence for the Zelda series is this 4 minute fan film:

 

I won't hold my breath, but imagine if it was this level of quality, I could die happy.

God I loved this when it came out.

This is just proof that Majora's Mask is genuinely the BEST Zelda story.

A happy forest child becoming a world destroying villain by becoming possessed by a demonic mask who can only be stopped by a time traveling hero who fell into this alternate dimension? I MEAN WTF.

On 8/22/2022 at 4:35 PM, DarkTone said:

Bought a memory card on ebay. The wu tang controller is uncommon but this memory card seems to be rare. Pulled the trigger with a few seconds to go as the only bidder and got it for £1, including shipping. An hour later I found £1 on the ground. 

The part that worries me is research. With no evidence online that this exists, how do I know its real? 

I've had a photo of this memory card on my hard drive since 2014....and only now I finally know where it came from.

Back on NA someone asked where it came from and NO one had any clue besides "I dunno, probably the PS1 game" but like no proof of how it was packaged.

Edit: Wait, nevermind...it's not bundled in there? Damn...so where did that thing come from. I bet this picture might even be yours.

Edit 2: Jason from Game-Rave shown me there's another rare memory card that looks like this for a PAL PS1 game: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385411591095

2 hours ago, T-Pac said:

Well ... Santa Sage has heard how good you've been this year, giving your turtle to ZeldaFreak and agreeing to follow T-Pac's sprite rules ...

... so he found a little tapeworm boss from Abadox for you.

[T-Pac]

It’s just what I’ve always wanted!

:’) 

Since we’re getting philosophical…

What is the exact ethical profit point? Is even making a $0.01 off someone too much? If not, then why is $1,000,000 different?

If you never sell the item and keep it in your collection forever is it okay to buy it?

What if someone OFFERS you money to take something like this from them?

What if they use it as payment of services?