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My wife wouldn't sell my stuff, she'd just give it away. Double whammy.

Sold

It may be for business liability insurance as well what is insured in the physical building. For example, what if an employee drops a 9.6 SMB...?

Anyone received a call/reduced fees for an overvalued game? I'm guessing the answer is no.

16 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

Even if it's a good problem to have, I already paid for these games to be graded a year ago at the values they were back then. 

Agreed, that's a good point. I guess I would argue if that scenario arose, at least to a value close to the original estimated date. 

Maybe I'll send them a request for lost stock market gains (18.6%) on the my money they've had for over five months. 

7 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

What happens when they've had your games for an entire year and then in that time some of those games are now worth $10,000?

If that happens I'll gladly pay the increased fee... which is probably the way most of us feel with the current market conditions.

I'm not a huge fan of WATA's approach regarding the surge charge, or the long lead times for that matter, but there doesn't seem to be a better option to maximize value. 

I just sent my SMB in, won't be a high grade, so I'll see if I get a call. Good to hear that they are at least doing some due diligence before assigning values.

And I am paying more to get games graded than I paid for them.  Again, good problem to have.

45 minutes ago, Dumars2001 said:

I think HA only charges the seller 10% for fees and I read that you can negotiate the seller's fee down, depending on what you are selling and how much you are selling at HA. I am unsure of what CL charges the seller but it is nice to see that they will auction off VGA graded games.

Yeah, sorry I didn't articulate my thought well. I think I did the math some time ago and seller would get about 68% of the selling price on HA.  Therefore, I believe sellers keep a higher % of the final bid on CL versus HA. 

I may be wrong but I thought I read that HA fees are much higher than CL. As a seller CL may not be a bad alternative.

Let's assume:

8.0 A - Duck Tales 2

8.5 B+ - RC Pro Am II

No guesses?

Not seeing any sales of these two.

43 minutes ago, spacepup said:

Speculators / Investors probably don't care if the game is any good.  

Is that new though? *cough* Stadium Events, Color a Dinosaur, etc.

@AdamWYep, you are right. Although, it is not as prominently displayed... 

Is there info somewhere on how the different Genesis seals?  Looks like Sonic 2 is where it is made/assembled.

The one in Nov is Later Production, the recent one is slated as First Production. Many collectors see this as a huge difference... apparently a 20k+ difference (although higher grade has impact as well).

@AdamWExactly, which is why I stated "in this market". Buying a game (collectible, stock, etc.) to flip is always a risk regardless of whether it's raw or graded. There are no guarantees. 

I agree, the first party/tier titles should hold their value much more so over time if a correction does occur.

1 minute ago, AdamW said:

People are definitely doing that kind of arbitrage - I mentioned earlier I saw a pretty high grade Pokemon Emerald sell of eBay for $10k right after one went for a much higher number at the HA auction. I think @sp1nz is probably on the right lines with that Sonic: you've got to factor in the turnaround time even if you're just planning a straight flip, and in bubbles, the outlying things are more vulnerable than the core ones. Sonic 2 is probably a bigger risk than Pokemon.

In this market the extra wait time will help sellers as prices continue to rise. Who knows when/if prices will drop.

There has been flipping/arbitrage in VG collecting for some years now, especially with sealed games. One reason I stopped collecting older games, too many flippers/resellers on ebay.

I really missed the boat on Pokemon games. I was never into them and never speculated that they'd be worth something some day. I had no idea of their impact, or relevance. I should have known since they were published by Nintendo. Got rid of them years ago for basically nothing, including quite a few Emeralds. Big miss on my part. 

This appears to be for the tax year 2022. Therefore, would impact selling in 2022 and reporting in 2023.

14 minutes ago, final fight cd said:

Is part of the wait WATA prioritizing items? 

I assume so. Some have Turbo orders going back to Sept.

At the time, this was one of the best gaming experiences. Not sure if I'd feel the same way playing it today, but this goes down as one of my all time favorites.

On 4/5/2021 at 5:42 AM, A_Feisty_Pickle said:

When I sent my games in, Turbo was labeled at approximately 45 business days and now it's approximately 90. 

They know Turbo is currently running 150+ days and yet they have a 90 day estimate. They don't seem to be doing themselves any favors.

Any current estimates for these two sealed?

54 minutes ago, Gloves said:

Exactly. Jack the price up and be done with it. They are forcing us to pay more to get them back in a reasonable timeframe anyway, let’s stop the charade of budget services that take a year.

Wata should get rid of TAT tiers, and prioritize based on received date.

11 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

I personally feel the same way; however, it still is and should be viewed as damage in this context.

If I drew dicks on the faces of the people on a shrink-wrapped game, it would be considered damage whether I felt it enhanced the item or not.

Depends on how could of an artist you are.

How do other grading collectibles view autographs? (cards, comics, etc.)

22 hours ago, fcgamer said:

Could someone please explain to me why autographs shouldn't be viewed as damage, in this sort of situation (i.e. grading)?

I would argue that the right signature enhancing the game, and does not detract from it. For example, I’d love an MTPO with his sig.

19 hours ago, jonebone said:

As someone who sends in an order every 2 or 3 weeks, you can just do the order number math and see how many orders were created in the time span.  

Orders are still accelerating and the backlog will get worse every single day. 

Out of curiosity, do you mind sharing how many games you typically send in at a time?

I was planning on doing the same, however, with the lengthy turn times I'm a bit hesitant because at some point WATA would have quite a few of my games and a lot of my money. I probably just need to suck it up and do it, otherwise, it's going to take me years to get stuff graded.

I'd be curious how the different tier priorities come into play on the TATs. For example, at some point I assume they'll have to get a turbo order done before a speedrun.