Ulrizza

@FireHazard51 I like the subsections you're proposing 

I think it's better to leave the hackers and the modders in 2 different sections, it's very different to physically mod a console/game and programmatically hack a game/console! 

I'm also thinking about the main goal of a topic, I see 3 possibilities: showing off something, asking for help or making a Tuto. But I don't know if this can be used to arrange the sections / subsections

Just got the GPS one today 

Few days ago I added DMG-TR-FRG, and today I received directly from Canada a DMG-TR-CAN-1 

I bought all my Tetris between 5€ and 15€, shipping included. I'm checking eBay every few hours all day, I'm looking for the ones noy listed as Minuet because I don't want to pay more than 15€ for one 

9 hours ago, JVOSS said:

From what did you deduce this list?
for the time from that the V1 was printed and assembled.

date codes will be from 8901-8922 and pcb will be from 8901-8906 during that time the code would have been 

23
20
05
07
09
28

the boards would be

DMG-AAA-01, and very very very rare DMG-BEAN-02  most likely with an I or B on back side and no year above the month code.

my bad on the 11,12 that is late 94 irc..

nope the label were only produced in JAPAN oops except Brazil and China.  The numbers are the id's of print shops that did the printing.  under Nintendo's strict control.

when you record the dates of the ROM chip and the PCB date you will understand more.  the time from for the "v1" was about 4 months.  and at the rate that NINTENDO produced that would 40000 if not higher.  now that is not to say they shipped that many.

Time for TMI: 

As for the music, a working theory is that Nintendo did not have the rights to the original sound track and had to produce something different for original production. However they had to change the song in order comply with the copyright and the agreement with Alexey Pajitnov (as the Korobeiniki was his favorite song.)  The song was original to Spectrum HoloByte and was used in the original production of Tetris for the (Amiga, Apple II, Apple IIGS, DOS, MacOS, Atari ST).  in late 1989 Nintendo's in house composer Hirokazu "Hip" Tanaka remixed the Korobeiniki to what is now. the CHIP Tune of Tetris A.

hope this helps

 

Thank you very much for this detailed answer!
I still haven't taken the time to take pictures of my Minuet PCBs 

So I'll update my first post with the new imprint numbers 07 and 28, but I never saw any of them, if someone has one, please post a picture

About the Minuet song, I find it way less dynamic, IMO it just doesn't fit the gameplay... (but maybe I am biased because Tetris was one of my first video game and Korobeiniki is engraved in my brain). I thought that was the reason it was changed. Thanks for sharing 

2 hours ago, JVOSS said:

for what i can see is that the following numbers could be

 

00

05

07

09

11

12

20

22

23

34

for this tetris.  happy hunting...

From what did you deduce this list?

It looks like nearly all the possible imprints of a v1.0 game (I also have "28" on some cartridge). From what I've found online those imprints correspond to the place where the game was produced but I cannot find where I've read that

But since Tetris Minuet has only been released in Japan and in a "small" batch, I'm very doubtful that some where produced around the world, so it's totally believable that only few imprints exists. I hope my explanations are understandable  

Note: I have around 20 Japanese DMG cartridges, and those that are v1.0 (imprint without letter) are confined in the "23, 20, 09, 05" list. 

3 hours ago, bowser said:

I found a Minuet version imprinted with "20".

Lucky you! Did you find it on eBay? 

I found this answer: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/233532-can-someone-tell-me-what-this-is/?do=findComment&comment=3147999

Really interesting

Hi!

I think a section where people can ask for help if they have a problem with their system could be nice. 

It could also be used for people (like me) that enjoy repairing stuff regularly and want to share their work, tips, specificities of the repair, etc. 

This may be interesting for people that simply enjoy seing a broken system come back to life, or if they want to repair themselves a broken console

5 hours ago, drxandy said:

@UlrizzaI just fixed a couple nes not too long ago. Spent a bunch of time reading people's repair logs and stuff to get an idea.

After disassembling and cleaning the boards with 90+isopropyl take the 72pin connector off and give it a good cleaning (some people say boil them to bring back to working but idk about that, I tried and it didn't really do much other than make it plyable) take a dental tool, like a pick, I used an exacto knife with a broken tip to pry the pins back into place. This is an effort of feel as to how far to pull them, so if you pull the pins out too tight not only will they grip and maybe hurt the carts pins over time but when you try to play a game it will only work if not pressed down (I hope that makes sense, like the typical action of inserting a cart and pressing it down will cause it to not work, but it will work when not pressed down) 

If the pins are not too tight it will function as intended but tight to the cart no pressing down needed, the same way the blinking light win product works. Some people consider it better for the system but I have a hard time not pressing them down. It's a little trial and error to find the sweet spot and I pulled em too far on the first one I worked on, then found my groove and the second one was much easier.

Have fun with ya projects!!

Absolutely feel free to make a thread if you have specific information you're looking for!! 

Thanks for the tips! I already repaired multiple NES and I regularly repair old consoles, it's one of my hobbies.

I managed to fix multiple NES with the boiling method, but the question is how long will they work?? I don't have enough hindsight to know... 

I've tried to pry the pins on another one, but it was very cumbersome and as you said, the game worked only when not pushed down, which I find extremely frustrating because I love the feeling of *clicking* the cart down

There is some consoles that I couldn't fix and for which I could need a hand, but I learned a lot with all my reparations so I think if there was a repair section I could be of help

Anyway, I mighty ask for help some day when I want to try again to fix the ones I failed, thanks

Thanks to @RH I have now 3 more carts to my collection 

15 hours ago, bowser said:

We don't have an entire section but we do have a thread for repairs and restorations here:

 

Thanks for the link, it's a satisfying thread, I'll surely follow it 
I was more thinking of an entire section dedicated to help others to repair stuff, where each thread is a particular repair that could be useful for the others or a call for help for a specific problem. With a more technical accent rather than only the satisfying parts of the repair 

I'm always looking for retro stuff to repair, and today I found those 2 poor NES... The seller said that they are both turning on (with the blinking problem). I have a lot of cleaning work to do 
(This forum should have a "repair" section )

I've also bought this cart, I'm not a big NES enthusiast so I have no idea if it's rare or not, but I like to have a non standard cart

I'm rather happy with those finds, now I have to find some time to try and fix them!

@JVOSS After making my Tetris collection topic I noticed that you are missing the "DMG-TRA-1" in this list 

Beautiful 

Thanks @DK 

I would love to find (for a decent price) a Game Boy Test Cartridge 

(Image found here)

 DMG-TR-CAN

DMG-TR-CAN-1

DMG-TR-CAN-2
Not found yet.

DMG-TR-USA (with centered code)

DMG-TR-USA

DMG-TR-USA-1

 DMG-TR-USA-2

DMG-TR-AUS
Not found yet.

DMG-TR-AUS-1
Not found yet.

 DMG-TR-GPS

DMG-TR-ASI

 DMG-104CHN

DMG-104CHN (with label "For China only)
Not found yet.

 DMG-TR-HKG

DMG-TR-KOR

DMG-TR-ROC

Tetris Playtronic Yellow
Not found yet.

Tetris Playtronic Gray
Not found yet.

DMG-TRA (1.0 "Minuet")

DMG-TRA

DMG-TRA-1

DMG-TR-EUR

DMG-TR-NOE

DMG-TR-NOE-1

DMG-TR-ESP
Not found yet.

DMG-TR-ESP-1

DMG-TR-FAH

DMG-TR-FRG

DMG-TR-FRG-1

DMG-TR-ITA

 DMG-TR-SCN

DMG-TR-SCN-1
Not found yet.

DMG-TR-UKV

DMG-TR-UKV-1
Not found yet.

I can't explain why but I want to collect all versions of Tetris released on the Game Boy!
(Maybe because my first ever console was the Game Boy with Tetris bundle? Who knows )

I'd like to have almost all the ones listed in the Somewhat Complete list of Game Boy(DMG) Tetris Variants except for those:

• DMG-601-CHN and -S and -O => because I'm not interested in carts with multiple games on it
• DMG-TR-USA-0 => because I'm just not interested in having it 
• DMG-TR-UKV-1 => because there is no proof that it exist, and no pictures of it!

So here is my goal list:

•  DMG-TRA => Tetris (Japan) 1.0 "Minuet"
•  DMG-TRA => Tetris (Japan)
•  DMG-TRA-1 => Tetris (Japan) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-EUR => Tetris (Europe)
•  DMG-TR-NOE => Tetris (Europe?)
•  DMG-TR-NOE-1 => Tetris (Europe?) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-ESP => Tetris (Spain)
•  DMG-TR-ESP-1 => Tetris (Spain) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-FAH => Tetris (France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg)
•  DMG-TR-FRG => Tetris (Germany)
•  DMG-TR-FRG-1 => Tetris (Germany) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-ITA => Tetris (Italia)
•  DMG-TR-SCN => Tetris (Scandinavia)
•  DMG-TR-SCN-1 => Tetris (Scandinavia) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-UKV => Tetris (UK)
•  DMG-TR-CAN => Tetris (Canada)
•  DMG-TR-CAN-1 => Tetris (Canada) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-CAN-2 => Tetris (Canada) rev. 2
•  DMG-TR-USA => Tetris (USA) with centered code
•  DMG-TR-USA => Tetris (USA)
•  DMG-TR-USA-1 => Tetris (USA) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-USA-2 => Tetris (USA) rev. 2
•  DMG-TR-AUS => Tetris (Australia)
•  DMG-TR-AUS-1 => Tetris (Australia) rev. 1
•  DMG-TR-GPS => Tetris (Other countries)
•  DMG-TR-ASI => Tetris (Asia)
•  DMG-104CHN => Tetris (China)
•  DMG-104 CHN => Tetris (China) with label "For China only"
•  DMG-TR-HKG => Tetris (Hong Kong)
•  DMG-TR-KOR => Tetris (Korea)
•  DMG-TR-ROC => Tetris (Taiwan)
•  Tetris Playtronic Yellow (Brazil)
•  Tetris Playtronic Gray(Brazil)

I'll post the pictures of the ones I have in the following replies 

2 minutes ago, JVOSS said:

located here:

 

 

 

I should've been more precise with my question: I'd like pictures of the 2 Tetris carts 

FYI I fount the answer where the dates are explained, for the others ignorants like me 

Hi, do you have any pics of the differences between DMG-104-CHN and DMG-104-CHN-FCO?

12 hours ago, JVOSS said:

@Ulrizzanot per say on the data i have started the variant rom tracking for the NOA carts but not for world games yet.

if you look in the sig block you can find the topic. 

should you want to share you info on the carts then please send to me.  there is a website that tracks all data but i have yet to contribute it hard to do with i have to redo 3000 carts. 

Dang 3000 carts it would take a serious amount of time

Yeah it's been some time that I'd like to find a way to contribute to some kind of database to list and preserve all games! I'll search the topic you're talking about

2 minutes ago, JVOSS said:

@Ulrizzaplease publish your cart's pcb data.  that would be help @RHproduction info.  i guessing it will have a DMG-BBA-01 date code 8937-8944  with a pcb date of 8907-8910  that is my guess. 

@JVOSS I'll do it as soon as I can 

Is there a thread dedicated to this? Because I have a lots of carts, some Japanese, and if it can be useful I could publish other ones.

Thanks @RH and @JVOSS 

I was asking because I'll soon make a topic for my GB Tetris collection, and want to have a final list of the carts I'm looking for.

Anyway, what I understood from @RH was that it was not explicitly made this way, meaning the production process for this one was the same as the one with the dashes. The fact that the dashes are "missing" would be involuntary from Nintendo.

As for @JVOSS's answer, I never heard of those date codes. I found some of @JVOSS explications on this thread :

 But I don't understand the correspondance of the date codes and the actual dates. Is there a thread where this is explained?