Joshua Rogers

18 hours ago, Quaze said:

Way too many consonants in that word lol. 9 consonants and 2 vowels, is there another word in any language with that ratio?

Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz

Any update as to what ever happened with this?

You should scan it and upload it to archive.org (for e.g.) These catalogues are useful for finding out more information and hiding them behind a fee isn't cool

Here's a catalogue from the 90s from Poland for the Pegasus Famiclone: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KQo7L4AQAINhJ1JA1En1d2uE7tDwyud5/view?usp=sharing which is cool. No idea where I got it though

some history about HES: its owner is Italian (but in Australia), and many very rare HES variants haves been found in Italy.
I believe this 2-in-1 bundle wasn't "distributed" by HES in Australia (and I'm quite sure Skylerz from NA confirmed this), but clearly it has that link to the company.

More reading for you:

https://archive.nes.science/nintendoage-forums/nintendoage.com/forum/messageview6a76.html?catid=5&threadid=96726
http://www.autofish.net/hosted/famitek/
https://archive.nes.science/nintendoage-forums/nintendoage.com/forum/messageview1fdf.html?catid=5&threadid=165237
https://archive.nes.science/nintendoage-forums/nintendoage.com/forum/messageview6a76.html?catid=5&threadid=96726

What ever happened to Werrock and Comboy and famitek from NA? Damn I miss NA

Hey, speaking about the famicom adapators in NES games, what about Ice Climber? I outline here why I expect it not to exist:

 

FTR, it was uploaded:

 

For the past 10 years I've heard rumours that Spaco, a Spanish distributor for Nintendo, released Tiny Toons 2 in 1997:

or https://www.kaiserland77.com/wikines77/index.php/Historia_de_la_NES from 2011. then even from 2007: https://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?99604-History-of-the-NES-in-Europe

I would love to get my hands on one of those carts to check it out.

What are these going for these days? All are VGC, with manual..

Ignore the Asian version Tetris

 

> And as far as HES being “rare”, rare doesnt always equal valuable.
>I only speak for myself, but I as someone who does collect unlicensed NES i stay away from HES and Aladdin stuff (sachen too).

Yes, I agree that rare does not equal expensive (in fact, it's usually quite the opposite..) Surpringly, I remember Americans buying HES games at an extreme premium versus how much they cost in Australia. Probably just because they're difficult to get to the US.

>Send me a list with prices and I'll let you know.
What?

I know how to find prices for them, but I have like 500 other games to get prices for, so the unlicensed ones I have are not so much a pririoty, and I just wanted to know what the market looks like now for them, versus 4-6 years ago.

By the way, anyone remember this? I'm guessing nobody cares about these anymore..

12 minutes ago, MrWunderful said:

The market right now is down across the board outside of super super rare items. Bad time to sell, great time to buy.

When you say down across the board, are you talking about down from the boom that the past couple of years has been, or 4+ years ago? To give a sort of idea of the prices I was paying years ago (not 100% of when these were bought, it could even be 6 years ago) for these things, I got some of my Tengen games (CIB, good/vgc I guess) for..: Tetris $50USD, Tengen RBI Baseball $30, Klax $20, Indiana Jones $35, Krazy KReatures $30, Vindicators $15. I have more I guess but can't quickly find the price I paid for them..

The HES games are more interesting I think since they are really rare, but I don't think many people know about that market on VGS except for some of the older collectors..

Thank you for the response but none of what you wrote answers any of the questions I had

Hi all,

I'm slowly looking to sell my collection and have not really been keeping up to date with how the market looks for the past 4 years or so, _especially_ regarding unlicensed games.

I have a near-full HES set (not variants..) as well as various games from Tengen, Color Dreams, Wisdom Tree, and AVE.

What is the market looking like these days for these sorts of games, especially compared to four years ago?
Can I also ask for valuations on this subforum too, or does that belong in a different subforum?

@fcgamer

This may not be the right place to post this, but I don't know where your other "NES Misprints" thread is.

I noticed that the manual for the Australian(Mattel)-released "Rad Racer" has a misprint on the manual. The "white" part of the text on the back and front label is not aligned with the other colors. It's much more obvious in-person than in the photos, and in-person, it's obvious it's not intended. See how it is misaligned with both blue and red text/logo.

Doesn't seem to have affected any of the other PAL-A Rad Racer games.

On 5/24/2022 at 2:08 PM, bowser said:

Uh oh, I might have to take back my comments about the board swap because of that 3196 lockout chip. Never seen that before. Does this work in an Asian Version NES? The usual lockout chip for this region is 3196A.

3196 was the lockout chip used before the middle of 1987 (or something like this, I don't have my notes right now). They made a small revision, and thus 3196A was born.

New video about the Samurai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mruP0Psa2SY

Doesn't look like it contains new information, but certainly interesting to watch again.

11 hours ago, fcgamer said:

Does a simple importation sticker make the game go from European version to middle eastern version? 

If the sticker is placed on it by a company with an official contract with Nintendo, then, yes.

I have no doubt that this is a legit collaboration between Media and Active Boeki. Unfortunately, I have no information about the SNES in SEA (except for HKG), and I can say I've never seen this before.

Very cool

I do not know anything about the SNES or Gameboy in the Middle East. No I no longer have the exact correspondence, this was nearly 6 years ago I guess.

The advertisement of the GB you posted is not "proof" it was available there at all; any importer could have been re-selling Gameboys unofficially from other countries, and that sort of advertisement does not look like an official Nintendo one.

In terms of the Israeli NES, it seems that there were multiple distributors., I haven't looked enough into it. Here's some images I have though (which indicate the SNES was sold there too, but I don't know whether they had hebrew boxes).

On one of the advertisements, it says there's only four games available with Hebrew-translated manuals (i.e. Donkey Kong, Excitebike, Ice Climber, and Super Mario Bros.) 
BTW, there's an ISR version on ebay at the moment: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401956554249

Also, please do not spam my email again or I will simply stop responding.

Are we really discussing the GPS region again? The first time I read about this region was back on NA probably around 10 years ago.

We've already established it certainly does not mean Greece/Portugal/Spain for multiple reasons. GPS it just for the "global pal region" so-to-speak. This GPS code is also used for the NES and Gameboy, by the way.

On the topic of the NES in the Middle East, I can confirm that the NES was sold in this region officially.

Years ago, I was shown old NES stock from Saudi Arabia. This console was nothing like I've ever seen before, and I had never seen this box in the English language (minus the South African version, which is slightly different). The console's box has the code NES-CDSM-GPO. The game has NES-CDSM-GPS. "GPO" is clearly the "console version" of GPS (NES-CDSM-... is the the standard code for the control deck+SMB set that this box is). It is also the only box from Nintendo that includes the text "This product is designed for operation only in designated regions" – I.E. without specifying the exact region. The console itself has the "HOL" sticker (Holland) on the bottom, and has an incredibly high serial number.

Based on my research and conversation with the person selling that old stock, I came to believe the following:
In Saudi Arabia, the GPO console was distributed by Dotts(Alesayi; They seem to have gone by Alesayi United, Dotts-Electronics, and “Dotts”. See http://www.smspower.org/forums/4981-AlteredBeastAndOtherGamesInArabic for discussion
and http://www.alesayi.ae/profile.html), who was also the exclusive distributor of Sega consoles in many parts of the middle east from 1992 until 1995. Unlike for the Sega products that Dotts released, which included translated Arabic manuals (as well as consoles, specifically for Saudi Arabia, using the non-standard 127V) , the NES games and consoles saw no additions for translated manuals or the like.

Previously, I have been sent this photo, supposedly coming from Egypt (which I have no reason not to believe):

However, I had no further information.

However, a few days ago, my friend sent me this:

This is clearly advertising material for the NES in – at least – Egypt.

This photo came from a collector in Dubai. The same collector also has a has an English-text "European Version" NES: https://www.facebook.com/dubairetrogames/photos/2807714345934162

So, in total, we have seen these NES' in: Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Egypt. That's all I know about the NES in these regions for now.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/game-lost-analysis-video-preservation-digital-age-joshua-rogers/?published=t

Not my final publication but my final publication in this essay format.

On 11/22/2020 at 9:47 PM, phart010 said:

I’m pretty sure Middle East didn’t have any regional marked distribution for games back then. Saudi Arabia was the booming economy back then, and their electrical grid was 60Hz so importing US versions would have be more convenient than PAL 50Hz versions.

Other gulf countries are 50Hz, but back in NES days they were probably just little desert villages, so probably sourced their import games and systems from Saudi Arabia.

I’m not saying this is the absolute answer, but it’s plausible.

The NES was officially sold in the Middle East. They received the PAL-B "European Version".

 

also HKG Mah Jong remains the rarest licensed retail nes game

2 hours ago, Indianvideogamecollector said:

He never said that Samurai was involved in Piracy, I was told that Piracy hit the business harder than anything else.
 

Yeah, for the positive! Ha!

Anyways yeah I am 'Of Games' on NA.

I will message you one day asking some questions probably

 

6 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

This is some amazing detective work here.

This is basically the exact same story as the Phantom System & Playtronic NES in Brazil. They sold illegitimate games and clone systems first and then went legal once they made their money.

The same as Dendy in Russia/CIS countries.