Joshua Rogers
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1 hour ago, fcgamer said:
I have a Samurai Famiclone, looks the same as the red / pinkish MG clone shown above.
Terrible quality too, I must add, sure I'm probably biased after living in Taiwan for so long, but the thing feels brittle and cheap compared to the real MG machines.
It's possible the plastic was locally molded. What's the inside look like?
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For reference, this is the photo he sent me (see the attached image.)
Also for reference, in talking about the posibility of Samurai selling Famiclones/pirate carts, Mahesh had this to say:
"Samurai could only source from Nintendo. After 7 years Samurai sold console with one free official cartridge. Rest the grey market [ Parrallel] Market supplied. Most of samurai Distributors and Dealers started stocking and selling Pirated versions and there was no Option for us to do this"
"All Games were always from Nintendo. After about 5 Years Nintendo did allow Samurai to source directly from developers but it was too late and Original cart sale was virtually ZERO. Samurai Consoles were selling with one free cartridge but all consumers purchased extra Catrts from Grey market."
"Samurai initiated several Court cases to stop all this Piracy and misuse of Brands and it did result in stopping use of Samurai with Microgenius but Microgenius all alone was already selling very well due to very low Price and steady quality"
"Nintendo Officials visited India and we took them around to dealers / wholesales selling Pirated Carts in Bulk . Photographs were taken but nothing could be done to stop them "
"Samurai only sold official Nintendo Chips in Nintendo Plastic Shells with Samurai Label"
After 6 years in 1993 Taiwan and China introduced imitation Consoles at 25% of Samurai Price and multigame cartridges at 10% of Samurai Price resulting in steep drop in Samurai Sales . After 2 years trying to Fight China . As Mr S.K. Lal had other countries as an agent he always resisted sale of Imitation Consoles in India . No Nintendo did not cancel contract as they could understand that NES can Not sell at the price we had once China came in with Pirated Version. Due to very Poor Piracy law implementation in India at that time no one could do anything and Nintendo sales died down automatically resulting in Huge Losses to SAMURAI . Microgenius was a Taiwan Brand introduced in India by another parallel Video Game Distributor .
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"Samurai never moved into Piracy and closed down Operations due to heavy Losses trying to fight Piracy"
Clearly, these were all lies.
Also it's great to see you included the Samurai advertisment
But I also would like to now add this
Which, your photo has just confirmed Samurai was indeed behind!
Thank you very much, as this 'closes' the Indian chapter of my book, since the only thing I had left to write in it was an analysis of whether Samurai were selling pirate products. No analysis needed: the answer is yes!
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19 hours ago, Indianvideogamecollector said:
Untrue, Samurai was in the talks of launching Wii and DS in India, however Sunder Electronics (which was backed by Active Boeki KK and MaxSoft) was the one that finally brought these consoles and games to India (indirect imports albeit), Samurai was cut out of the deal and soon after the company wound up.
Source: https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/features/buy-the-nintendo-switch-in-india-you-need-to-read-this-first-1650812
Other industry veterans confirmed that this was the case with the Nintendo Wii as well; further compounded by the confusion that it was to show up via Samurai, a Delhi-based distributor.Then, Mahesh lied to me in an email. Also see https://web.archive.org/web/20080918224605/http://samuraiindia-nintendo.com/index.html
also cool video but some notes
region lockout would have been 3196 then 3196A, not 3195/A.
In terms of the 3,000 units per month number, Mahesh said this was the minimum order from Nintendo, which coincides with a number I have from a certain other distributor. But who knows, maybe Nintendo wasn't as cruel as one mayt hink.
There were two companies. Samurai Electronics, which handled assembly of consoles, and Samurai Software which handled assembly of cartidges.I guess, like you, Mahesh refused to answer as to whether Samurai ever sold pirate games or consoles themselves, given https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/economy/story/19911015-indian-entertainment-electronics-industry-goes-through-turbulent-times-814947-1991-10-15
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Mahesh sent me a similar picture used in the last couple of seconds in your video as well which I thought was amazingly cool, but he never sent that pic of the kiosk.
However. Those last two pictures are important (at 11:03 in your video), and I think they clear up the question as the whether Samurai sold pirate consoles/games. It is very clear from the first photo in the video, that the posters have the Famiclone (pictured here:
on them. NOT original Samurai NES consoles.
This puts any doubt in my mind that to rest, and I can say with certainty that Samurai did indeed sell Famiclones. Did they do it with Nintendo's unofficial approval though, is a good question (like Dendy in Russia.)-
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Just now, fcgamer said:
Oh, you were talking about the game? I didn't realise that until I saw the words 'Nintendo fucked up' misprints, I thought you were asking him how much he paid for the woman.
the OP is the woman lol
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hey @OP how much did you pay for this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gun-Smoke-1988-Nintendo-NES-Rev-A-Video-Game-w-Original-Art-VGA-Graded-85-Wata/333655892219?hash=item4daf70e0fb:g:Z1oAAOSwSaVfMFi-
I like collecting 'Nintendo fucked up' misprints..
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3 minutes ago, thesofasurfer said:
No. I got into video games only since I received a HA catalog in the mail for video games. I was like, here is market that will have a big push, jumped on ebay and bought about 80 games and have been making a killing. All those empire strikes back 2600 and intellivison, that was me. Buy for a 100. Grade and resell for 1500. I even bought graded games like again empire for 340 and in less than week, I flipped for 3k. And and on and on.....and u claim u have 10 years in this market yet are kicking rocks on the sidelines. That is the difference between us. I got in and out of 2600 cause I think it will implode and have been buying up rare stuff. I will be out of the market by next year.
Unfortunately everything this person (I KNEW! it was an asian writer..) is probably correct/true.
Fortunately, nobody in this thread really cares
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I have one of these VGA graded (95), a few years (like 10) back a couple boxes of them were auctioned on Yahoo JP.
Also I don't understand your question. "Its coming up on HA soon." Are you selling it on HA, or are you wanting to buy it? -
OP literally made this thread to cause outrage, so the auction gets more attention.
Also lol @ posting links saying games are rare. https://gaming.ebaumsworld.com/articles/10-incredibly-rare-games-worth-thousands-of-dollars/85487493/
has SMB Asian Version at 30k USD, for example. So many stupid posts saying they have 30k now..
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13 hours ago, DK said:
Interested!
Is there any way to watch a recorded version of your cast? The link in your post just sends you to an offline page.
I will post a youtube link when it goes live.
https://online.paxsite.com/schedule/panel/world-of-nintendo-exploring-nintendo-in-eastern-europe
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Oh and also for those interested, I will be talking about how the Asian Version NES was released before the nation-wide NES release in America, and even before the PAL-B September release.
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An update:
You'll be able to watch the presentation here: https://www.twitch.tv/PAX3
Thursday, September 17th at 10:15am - 10:45am PDT
I'll be talking about the NES in: Israel, South Africa, India, Korea, and focusing on the whole of Central/Eastern Europe.
Including looking at the incredibly rare Polish version of the NES that was released at the end of 1993.
And the Hungarian NES from 1991, as well as the Hungarian National Nintendo Championship from 1992 (zoom in on that manual).
Will also be looking at the distribution of the NES in other EE countries, for example, the Czech Republic & Slovakia
Croatia
And even looking at how Nintendo products were distributed by the company behind the Dendy Famiclone in Russia and its surrounding countries.
I will post a youtube link here after it's been shown live
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>Madden 95 was the first major game to have black players
NFL on NES, in 1989.
Pele's Soccer on Atari.
lakers vs celtics on Genesis.
political poop
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13 hours ago, ThePhleo said:
I’ll be watching if it doesn’t clash with my schedule. Will there be a recorded version if I miss it?
Also, will you include a nod to the Israeli version of the NES? I know it’s not Europe, but as far as I know, it’s the only official middle eastern release of the NES.
Also; did you do any research on Greece? There’s a ton of Greek NES manuals and even more PAL games they just stick green distribution stickers on. For some odd reason Boulder Dash is a common Greek game to find
I assume it will be recorded, and if not I'll upload it (it's all pre-recorded anyways)
I will include about 20 seconds looking at the Israeli NES
Mostly, it will look at the NES in the Poland and in Hungary. But I'll also be mentioning basically every single country east of Germany and Italy, including Greece.
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I will be presenting at PAX Online next month, looking at the distribution of the NES in Eastern/Southern Europe. The presentation is called "World of Nintendo: Exploring Nintendo in [Eastern] Europe" and will go live Thursday, September 17th at 10:15am PDT.
I won't be talking about the Dendy / Pegasus / other Famiclones, but rather the official releases of the NES (and GB and SNES) that the whole of Eastern Europe saw, by Nintendo.
Anyone interested in the NES from 1990-1996 should tune in.
https://online.paxsite.com/schedule/panel/world-of-nintendo-exploring-nintendo-in-eastern-europe
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If 10,000 households were really trialed, then I think eventually one will pop up.
The BT SNES "Interactive TV" cart showed up a few years ago on retrocollect, and according to https://www.telecompaper.com/news/bt-joins-forces-with-nintendo--59186
it was trialled in 2,500 homes. https://web.archive.org/web/20170621192046/https://www.retrocollect.com/News/bts-long-lost-super-nintendo-interactive-tv-service-trial-cartridge-discovered.html
A lot of different programs over the years have used Nintendo systems to do things, NES, SNES, and especially the GB. But the real question is whether it was ever /actually/ made. Who knows.
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Happens to me too. Feel like it's something to do with some privacy app I have which blocks the cookie or something.
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Cool!! Never seen that box nor manual before. I'm surprised it didn't have a hangtab box since the UK version of this game had a hangtab box.
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@bowser amazing find with the SMB manual.
"What this means is that the initial batches were imported as fully assembled units from Asia."
This isn't necessarily true. They could have (and most likely did) come broken down from Japan.In terms of it being similar to the Asian version, this was already known also the price/date too:
The game protectors probably had nothing to do with Samurai, maybe they had a licensing deal, since Samurai was in a completely different region of India (Samurai was located in Rajasthan)
"A discussion on legit vs pirate Samurai carts. I have some very interesting findings which lead me to a controversial conclusion. Will update soon."
Years ago on NA after I first interviewed the CEO of Samurai about the NES, I was apprehensive to say that Samurai sold pirate carts. These days I am not so much.
1. https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/economy/story/19911015-indian-entertainment-electronics-industry-goes-through-turbulent-times-814947-1991-10-15 "But Samurai isn't giving up. It recently introduced a cheaper model at two-thirds the previous price"
Likewise:
However, Samurai actually trademarked the term MicroGenius in India in 1990: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IdrxHA9MnCEJ:https://www.quickcompany.in/trademarks/540483-miclo-genius+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=pl&client=firefox-b-d
It is known that in at least Russia and Poland, Sega allowed distributors there to sell pirate consoles, because it would create brand recognition for the company and it could still sell software and make some money. Could it have been the same case here? Remember, Samurai once again in 2007 was the distributor for the Wii and DS in India, so it's not like the company has bad blood with Nintendo..-
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43 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:
Going off of pure memory for publishers here, but here's that list of 63 reorganized by publisher.
Crazy that Home Alone 1, Paperboy 2, Simpsons, Yo! Noid, and Bases Loaded 3 never made it in!
One Off's
- Die Hard (Activision)
I heard a rumour from one of the developers of Die Hard that this game was exclusively sold at Toys R' Us, and the lack of presence in NP aids to that idea too
on them. NOT original Samurai NES consoles.
The Samurai NES "Indian Version"
in General Collecting Discussion
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I tried to ignore the advertisement for sake of believing Mahesh, but you know..