guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 A friend of mine a few years ago gave me an AVS for free which was nice of him because he was cashing out. Anyway I got the itch to play some random NES titles the past few weeks and Festers Quest wasn't working. Then I remembered about getting the pin replacement. I just got the pin replacement today (turns out, I already had it in the AVS) but I tried the new one and it still wasn't working. I know some SLROM boards have that funny green strip thing but that was in the old NA days and I can't remember what other games were affected if I got to replace them. Also bootgod is down, so I can't reference any other SLROM-04 boards that have that weird pin thing going on. So what were the games that had this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Since I love information, I was able to use the wayback machine and do some research. Visually, these are all the PCBs and the games with them that have that Green strip. There might be more, but I think they all belong to the same Mapper (MMC1). All of their production dates are from July 89 to Jan 90. Most being Aug - December. I only have a few games here to test (Festers Quest, POW, Double Dragon, Bubble Bobble) that may not work. I have played TMNT, Bionic Commando, Blaster Master, Castlevania II, and Ninja Gaiden and all work. But its more than likely the copies I have don't have the boards from below. For example, there are different revisions of the SLROM board, 01, 2, 3 etc. So an SLROM board for Ninja Gaiden is the same, but because of reprints and redesigns, only SLROM04 would have the issue, while SLROM03 will work fine. These are all the SPECIFIC board revisions that look like they have that green strip. If someone wants to test these, knock yourselves out. NROM256-05: June 89 - Jan 90 1942 Dig Dug II Hydlide Mach Rider Tag Team Wrestling Wrecking Crew CNROM06: July - Nov 89 Adventures of Dino Riki Back to the Future Castlequest Championship Bowling Cybernoid Donkey Kong Classics Gradius Karate Kid King's Quest Milon's Secret Castle Paperboy Qbert MHROM04: Aug 89 Super Mario / Duck Hunt UNROM08: July 89 - Jan 90 Archon Black Bass Dr. Chaos DuckTales Flying Dragon Guardian Legend Hollywood Squares Jordan vs. Bird Robo Warrior Thundercade Twin Eagle Uncanny X-Men TEROM02: Sept - Nov 89 To The Earth TLROM01: June 89 - Jan 90 8 Eyes Bad Dudes Robocop TSROM04: July - Dec 89 Super Mario Bros 2 SAROM01: July - Sept 89 Dragon Warrior SBROM02: Nov 89 Short Order / Eggsplode! SCROM02: Sept 89 Sky Shark SEROM03: Sept - Nov 89 Sesame Street ABC Tetris SF1ROM02: Aug - Sept 89 Bases Loaded SFROM02: Nov - 89 Bases Loaded Bubble Bobble (DOESNT WORK) SGROM03: Sept - Dec 89 720 Bad Street Brawler Battle of Olympus Bionic Commando Faxanadu SH1ROM01: Oct 89 Airwolf SJROM02: Aug 89 Air Fortress SL1ROM02: Aug - Oct 89 Hoops Sky Shark SL2ROM01: Oct 89 Blaster Master SL3ROM01: Aug 89 Goal SLROM04: Aug 89 - Jan 90 Adventures of Tom Sawyer Castlevania II Clash at Demonhead Double Dragon Festers Quest Godzilla Golgo 13 Guerrilla War Ninja Gaiden POW Rescue the Embassy Stealth ATF Tecmo Bowl TMNT Three Stooges SNROM04: Aug - Nov 89 Metroid Ultima: Exodus Edited August 28, 2020 by guitarzombie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,315 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) I know Bubble Bobble works my wife and I played it not long ago on AVS edit: maybe not the exact version you listed though Edited August 27, 2020 by a3quit4s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,679 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) All of mine work, including green strip games. Fester's Quest, Faxanadu and Tetris had the green strip. Did you also remove the offending plastic piece? https://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?products_id=156 I think that was affecting the green strip games more than the pins (though the pins were an issue, too.) Removed that with an Xacto knife and BOOM, every game worked. Edited August 27, 2020 by Tulpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, a3quit4s said: I know Bubble Bobble works my wife and I played it not long ago on AVS edit: maybe not the exact version you listed though Im going thru my games and this is what I have: SFROM02: Bubble Bobble (DOESNT WORK) SL2ROM01: Blaster Master (WORKS) SLROM04: Aug 89 - Jan 90 Double Dragon (DOESNT WORK) Festers Quest (DOESNT WORK) Ninja Gaiden (WORKS) POW (WORKS) Konami SLROM with similar pins: TMNT (WORKS) Now that I have SLROM04 games that work, I dunno why the other ones didn't? I've cleaned them in the past and Festers Quest was clean. Gonna clean them and try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tulpa said: All of mine work, including green strip games. Fester's Quest, Faxanadu and Tetris had the green strip. Did you also remove the offending plastic piece? https://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?products_id=156 I think that was affecting the green strip games more than the pins (though the pins were an issue, too.) Removed that with an Xacto knife and BOOM, every game worked. Oh no I didnt. I saw a video some someone removing that strip and it was much larger than mine when I opened it. I assume mine must have came out after that problem was addressed, which is probably why it had the newer connector in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,679 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 If it was from the very first batch of AVSes, it probably needs that plastic piece gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tulpa said: If it was from the very first batch of AVSes, it probably needs that plastic piece gone. I dont think it was because it had the newer connector already in it. But just now I had 2 games that didnt work, Bubble Bobble and Double Dragon. I just cleaned them and put the PCBs directly into the AVS without the top shell and both games worked immediately. After putting on the shell, Bubble Bobble now can't even be read. So I guess I have to remove that piece then since theres no other explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, Tulpa said: If it was from the very first batch of AVSes, it probably needs that plastic piece gone. Removed that door and now Bubble Bobble works. Huzzah. Now I gotta see if there are any games that aren't MMC1 that have that green strip (I dont think there are), to test them and make sure they're good too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just for fun, I added all the Nintendo made boards that seem to have the green strip. Might as well have the list complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,679 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Faxanadu as well. SGROM, I think (the capacitor hides it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) Whats the board revision? Im gonna guess its SGROM04. The other revisions don't fit that time frame. Also bootgod can certainly be missing really specific board revisions as they're only updated when people upload to it. Which is why if this is SGROM04, it isn't in there cuz no one has updated it. With that in mind, this list CAN be incomplete, but has all the data that is CURRENTLY in there. Edited August 28, 2020 by guitarzombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,679 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I think it is 04, but it's really hard to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tulpa said: I think it is 04, but it's really hard to see. I saw SGROM04 has Princess Tomato so I just opened mine up. Its SGROM04 but doesn't have the strip. So im gonna say it IS SGROM03 like the others I had listed, but wasn't included just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,679 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 You're right, I think it is a 03. I've closed my game up, so I don't feel like digging it out again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf1 | 26 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 12:09 PM, guitarzombie said: A friend of mine a few years ago gave me an AVS for free which was nice of him because he was cashing out. Anyway I got the itch to play some random NES titles the past few weeks and Festers Quest wasn't working. Then I remembered about getting the pin replacement. I just got the pin replacement today (turns out, I already had it in the AVS) but I tried the new one and it still wasn't working. I know some SLROM boards have that funny green strip thing but that was in the old NA days and I can't remember what other games were affected if I got to replace them. Also bootgod is down, so I can't reference any other SLROM-04 boards that have that weird pin thing going on. So what were the games that had this issue? This is a shame because I really dig Fester's Quest, and if I was to buy an AVS I would want to play my rando copy I have laying around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, gandalf1 said: This is a shame because I really dig Fester's Quest, and if I was to buy an AVS I would want to play my rando copy I have laying around here. Did you read the rest of the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,679 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, gandalf1 said: This is a shame because I really dig Fester's Quest, and if I was to buy an AVS I would want to play my rando copy I have laying around here. After the mod, mine works. New AVSes were changed to accommodate the green strip issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Tulpa said: After the mod, mine works. New AVSes were changed to accommodate the green strip issue. Whats weird is I think I had the newer AVS because it already had the updated Rev cart slot. I only noticed it after I order the 'fixed' one and saw it was identical to what was already in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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