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  1. Thats how i got lucky with my Kiosk. The dude i bought mine from, said that his brother worked at a gamestop, and snagged it from there. But in the decade they had it, they never opened the top. Something happened to where the top compartment's door was pushed inward to where you couldn't get it opened. and they just never tried to pry it open. So when i got it, i managed to pry it open and was shocked that the arms basically fell out, almost hitting me in the face. AS FOR BUYING THEM... TYPICALLY... they're like 400 bucks on eBay... usually thats the going rate, about 200 per arm... BUT there are also different variations on the arms, namely the mounting bracket, so do make sure you're looking at the right ones for whichever kiosk you have. I just checked eBay and i see that 680 listing, thats a bit much imo, but it is for the kiosk that I have (photos in this thread).. Otherwise, facebook marketplace, there's also a few kiosk groups on facebook, some are a bit more involved than others, some have been merged also, this one seems a bit more active "The Kiosk & Display Collective". if you join that you should be able to ask if anyone there happens to have one or a pair available. But again, typically going rate is like 200 per arm.
  2. That is awesome! I'm glad that you had the metal pieces in the top. and were able to get all the lights going! it looks awesome and really is one of the best kiosks imo. Again Grats on the kiosk and well done getting it all up and going again!
  3. hmmm well thats a good point about the demo discs... i have one but haven't tried it out in a console... i wonder if the demo console i picked up had it's mobo / hard drive swapped... if anyone ever finds out, let us know! Appreciate the info on the paperwork, man i got excited there heheh. i do have og paperwork i appreciate the offer though! but yeah take a look and if you happen to stumble on something let me know! most of the kiosks had some kind of manual with them, so i imagine this one should as well. would be awesome to find. LIGHTBULBS! For the bulb above the console, in the center there,.. that takes a F8T5 8w bulb... mine is a cool white, but there are others... so mine says F8T5/CW 8W. ... But to make it green, there is a very small thin green tube it goes into... For the top, for those interested, it's an F15T8/CW, mine showed up broken, so i replaced it with one from Lowes that lets you change between daylight, warm light and cool i think... but it's almost TO MUCH LIGHT, as it washes out the xbox graphic that it sits behind hahaha It looks better in person, but in photos it looks a bit much.... sadly i also seem to have a stain on the back of mine, next to the X... i think someone before spilled something and it must've cooked on there, i cant clean it off. BUT NOTE, do not get the changing light bulb for the smaller t15 center one... it wont fit into the green little tube... Going back to the main console area, i went the route of throwing in some LED strips... i picked up some led light strip metal channels, and cut them to fit. I really wanted the entire console area to light up and was kinda bummed that the fluorescent only seemed to light the front... but i may have gone a little overboard... But i think the result is fairly cool if the bulb is flickering, hopefully it's just the bulb and not the ballast in there. i replaced the top bulb because mine was fried,... but i'm thinking of putting leds in there as well... maybe not as much as what i did in the center area... as for the center area, the guy actually sent me an extra bulb, i picked up the 3 way changing one from lowes thinking it'd be nicer, but it didn't fit with the green tube, so that went back and i just stuck with what the guy sent.. which again was good, but i kinda wanted the whole inside to lightup. lots more info than asked haha but hopefully it'll help others as well!
  4. OOOO I'm glad the key works! so, those are awesome finds! In that first picture on the far right, that giant 'U' bracket looking thing, that is for the console... and / or the space underneath where the console goes... My kiosk had two of them, i'm not sure what went into the bottom space though. some say a dummy console was on top, but i've yet to find a fake console... so maybe there were plans for it down the road? all the demo units i've found of the original xboxs were legit real xboxs, with just a sticker slapped on them. in the second picture, that metal bar behind your hand,... that is to help hold down the TV... it has some rubber "washers" and butterfly nuts and that giant box in the first photo is to cover the cords on the back of the tv That long piece in the middle of the first photo, i have no idea what that is for... i have one as well... but i cant figure out where that goes and haven't seen photos of it in use on other folks kiosks... so thats a mystery, BUT the fact that you have one as well, means it must've done something... For the remote, mine had a panasonic in it, but it's tethered to the back, so i picked up a new old stock one off eBay so i could leave it in the front and control the volume easier. Now, as for the paperwork, that is also insanely awesome, mine didn't come with any paperwork. so if you get time and wouldn't mind taking photos of all of it i'd love to have a copy! or even if you have the ability to scan and make pdf's thatd be awesome! wow good finds in the top. When i bought my kiosk... the seller said that the top was pushed in on one corner, so they were never able to open it. and when i got it, i spent some time with various small screw drivers trying to pry it open. when i finally did i found the kiosk arms for the controllers in there which was completely unexpected and crazy. So, lesson learned for other folks out there... get that key and look in the top! Awesome finds! It is so awesome to see another kiosk coming together like this... Grats!
  5. Continuing the LED Journey haha. The top, being #1 and #2, are basically wired the same, but again the 5 pin plug is different. These messed me up though, because the 2 pin connectors and the way they're on the wire was a little weird when your looking at it. In that diagram i made there, thats how the wire has the plugs on it, like all the plugs are wired the same way, but the orientation kinda flips on them... Also, to install these, you bassically run it up the pillar to the bottom of one of them, say the front... then continue up the pillar to the top of that same tube. then to the top of the other tube, and back down the pillar to the bottom of the other tube. They also used zip ties to kinda hang onto things. they did not do this for the bottom ones, as there is no room. This is a bit tough to see, but the tubes rubber cap has a slightly larger zip tie that is actually going through the metal of the pillar, to help hold it in place to the kiosk. and then there's a little zip tie hanging onto the cord and connector. making sure it doesn't come loose. Found a picture of the other side of that. here's an example of the wire connectors and how they just hang onto the wire in the middle of it. so dirty Found a shot i took of the bottom of one side while tearing the kiosk down. You can see the wires are coming up the pillar from the same point that the lower LED tube wires head down... and in this photo, you can see the left tube the wire comes up plugs in and heads back to the pillar to go up to the top... then comes back down and ends on that bottom one on the right. You could totally rewire these to jump from the left to right then head up if you wanted... Thats, really about it... the top half, although the wire can be confusing, it's a lot easier to deal with than the bottom, simply because there's much easier access. at this point i'm just finding photos i have to help show more angles of it all... Wires going through through the top pillar to the bottom and top. Here's the base again, and it's at this point you can pull the tubes up and out. BUT you have to disconnect that cable thats going up the pillars. This might be tough to see, but on that pillar there, i removed the piece of metal to expose the inside of it. and there are like 6 or 8 screws holding it on there, so it's very doable to get into there without taking the whole thing apart. and it makes it a lot easier to feed the wire from the bottom up the pillar and plug in that disconnect part. Alrighty, i've hit the image cap again haha, hopefully this helps. A lot of these pieces can actually be found on amazon, The wire i used was kinda the wrong gauge, slightly too big, so i had to use solder and hot glue to make it work. But i found that they do sell green tubes that seem to come in various sizes, so if anyone needs new tubes we could measure these and help figure it out. the rubber caps i found on there as well, but without the holes, which is easy enough to cut into them. figuring out a way to do the boards may be difficult, but they really are just leds. oddly though, mine are blue leds... but being in a green tube... i guess thats good enough haha.
  6. so, that image is terrible... it's actually the second one i did and it just comes out super pixilated... so it's really kinda hard to look at.. i'm going to figure out some way to make it actually look good, even if i have to post multiple times haha. the first image i had uploaded had a few photos kinda showing how the wiring works,... but it was just to big and hard to see,... but i'll figure it out somehow... i really did luck out with my kiosk... because it is like 99% complete (i think) and really only had one issue with the lighting. it really is difficult to tell, but each tube has it's led's on the top and bottom. and on my kiosk when looking at it, the bottom right one was out. which i completely didn't notice when viewing the photos and videos the seller sent. and frankly i dont think he knew either. In order for me to get the darn thing down into my basement, because it weighs a million pounds, i spent a whole day doing a complete teardown of the kiosk. this also gave me the chance to do a super thorough cleaning of it, as it was super dusty from being in the sellers garage for a few years. Someday, if i ever get time, i'm in the middle of building my site where i'm going to be dumping all the photos i took in tearing this down and rebuilding it. i have a few other kiosks i've torn down as well that i need to get back together... but finding time is difficult haha. "if i can find the time" - famous last words. Until then... and until i get the image reworked into something that is actually decent. I'll try to explain how the wiring for my kiosk is set up. apologies for the wall of text, maybe i can jam in photos as i write it out. and quick disclaimer, this is how mine was wired, i simply rewired the whole thing because one of the wires leading to one of the lights was torn away, so i figured why not. and although all these kiosks "SHOULD" be the same, you just never know, so be carefule. So, for the kiosk, Basically, the wiring is like we have a control box, which has the power, that supplies it to 4 different sets of wires. One wire for each of the bottom tubes (so two there) then one wire for each left and right sets of the top tubes (other two) Each Tube has an LED board on the top and bottom of them. and they are held into place by a round rubber cap which has a hole in the top for the plugs to the LED boards to hang out. These are basically just tight enough to hang onto the tube and keep the boards in place. in our LED Control Box, aside from that jumper wire, which we know now is important... we have 4 - 5 pin plugs. This is the way mine was wired, already numbered that way, so that was helpful. i'm not sure why the plugs are not wired the same though, you'd think it'd be the same but assuming they had reasons. Its a bit easier to see from the wires I used vs the speaker wire they used, but i did include a little drawing of how they were set up to make it a little easier. #3 and #4 are used for the bottom Tubes #1 and #2 are used for the top. Fairly sure it doesn't really matter what side you do, since they are the same LED boards. Only including one image to cut down on the size, but #4 is the same, it's just wired to it's 5 pin plug slightly differently. so the way the wire is running through the kiosk, 3 and 4 go from the control box, to basically their respective tube. in the top and bottom LED boards you have a 4 pin connector. so on the top you have the two wires from the control box but also the two wires leading to the bottom control board. the way you route them is by basically having it run down the left or right "pillars" of the kiosk. There should be screws you can undo on the inside of these pillars to gain access. This is why there is a breakaway connector in the cable, so it's a lot easier to install. On the bottom of the kiosk, Mine had a piece of wire channeling, that holds the wire so it's not just resting on the ground. this is what was completely destroyed on my kiosk for one of the sides. How you get these tubes out... is not fun.. you basically have to take the entire top of the kiosk off. there are 4 bolts that are holding the top half to the bottom half, but there could be some of these wires in the way, and the top half is so very heavy. So thats the bottom half, and its all one piece (not including the grey foot kicker bar on the front). But in that photo you can see the wires from the top are not yet running down those pillars on the side. and thats because you need to install the middle part and kinda feed the wires through it... again it was 1000 times easier since i had completely taken apart the top of the kiosk with all the pieces so it was easier to handle. You can even see the wires kinda coming out from the side of the bottom. In those pillars on the inside, you can see on the right how you have access to the inside, and thats because i took the plate off. This is the middle section i was talking about, although oddly sized and heavy, it's a lot easier to manage when it's not connected to everything else. So looking into it, you can see the two wires from each tube, kinda messy in this photo, but, the way the top pillars are built, youd want to wait until you got those on there before running the wires down the lower pillars. so it doesn't pinch the wires. I think i've hit the size limits of the post, so i'll do another for the top LED Tubes.
  7. AH HA! That is awesome! well done! who woulda thought,... i'm glad it's all working and not pulsating anymore. I'm half tempted to unplug my wire on mine and see what the pulsating is about. I did spend some time today making an over convoluted "diagram" of the wiring... i'll attach it here for anyone who comes along, if they need it. *Edited the image so it hopefully looks better Surprised about the cord going to the fan. very much spaced on that but good job sorting that out. I attempted to replace my fan with a "quieter" one,... but the model I picked up is only a little quieter, so meh. it works it works. Anyways, Congrats Again and awesome job!
  8. This kiosk was one of my holy grails (not a fan of that term, but this was truly the one i really wanted), i managed to snag it off facebook and had it shipped to me. and upon receiving it, i found that the wires to the LEDs on the bottom of one of the lower tubes had completely been destroyed. Thankfully the seller had sent me a TON of photos and videos, and through that i could see that this section wasn't truly lighting up before, so i at least knew it wasn't anything to do with the shipping of it. But in order to get this beast into my basement, i spent a day completely tearing it down, taking a ton of photos as i went. i even went so far as to replace all the nuts/bolts/screws with new ones. and as i started rebuilding it, i spent a few days completely rewiring the LEDs for all the tubes. the wires that came with it looked like nothing more than speaker wire and they were all in rough shape. With all that... i will say that none of them should be pulsating... they should all be solid. In looking at the photos i took, compared to the one you have there... i seem to have a "jumper" wire connected to that connector... Not entirely sure why its there... the wire connector bit in your hand in that photo, looks more like part of a breakaway portion of the led cable... BUT it's a bit complicated to write out, so what i'll do, is tomorrow i'll draw up a diagram showing how all of the LEDs are wired together... it seems overly complicated and kinda weird... but you'd think it was done for a reason... or not. but when i draw it out hopefully it'll be a little clearer and you'll be able to compare it to what you've got. So, i'll work on that tomorrow and hopefully we can get ya all up and running! Best!
  9. Hey Hey, Grats on the Kiosk! I just think they are an absolute blast to have. That said... i do not have either of those in mine... I'm thinking that the white one was probably used for extra led lights they maybe had strung up at one of those events... as for the plug, that looks a bit older looking and i'm not sure what it'd specifically be used for... almost like an appliance plug... *Edit to add that i'm referencing the photos of the power cable and the white adapter guy. I'm about to head off from work and when i get home i'll check the photos i have of the box that powers the LEDs... might be helpful
  10. That is absolutely awesome! I lucked out in a similar regard, the top of my kiosk had somehow been smacked inward and the door was stuck, so the previous owner wasn't able to get in there. After he sold it to me i spent a bit working on it and managed to get it opened, and found, just like you the arm brackets. so awesome! Based on your photo, That does look like the audio cable that i have. The demo disks do pop up on eBay a bit, some for cheap, some for not cheap but having the sleeve already is a bonus. that ac adapter looks like the one for the APU which is awesome. Now for the brackets and the handlebar thing... I'm adding a photo i threw together of all the parts related to the controller brackets. Going in "order"... there are two mounting brackets. The screws they use are basically 1/4-20, half inch square screws, but honestly any screw with a nut will hold the brackets in there. these seem to be missing the most. Next, that "little handlebar" is a bracket of sorts that holds onto the controller bracket... holder thing. now realizing that the controller holder image may be a bit small to see so here's a larger one The ones i have are for the S controller... there is a different styled one for the duke controllers. those are hard to come by. I have a photo somewhere but cant seem to find it right now. story goes that most if not all the kiosks had the duke controllers but then they were swapped out for the s-type controllers, and not many of the duke holders seem to be floating around. So you need the screws (unless they are floating around), another handlebar bracket, but also the 2 controller holders. the controller brackets you do have, they can at least hang onto the controller via the memory card ports.. but may want to be careful that it doesn't get damaged from being used like that. not sure how hard it'll be to come by the holders.
  11. I'd have to go and measure my locks, according to the comments on them, the keys included are stamped with 1001, which is what my keys are stamped with... and it says it's a 4 pin, which is what mine is... if i get some time i can try to pull one of my locks off and measure them. and yeah the cable would be tough to find in the wild, but i have seen them pop up in the past, sometimes on ebay by folks who dont realize what it is. i know one guy bought one awhile back thinking it was an svideo out, not realizing it was an 8 pin connector... just gotta keep an eye out for one to pop up. might be able to find a schematic online if anyones ever figured the wiring pinout out on it, and make one... i'm still in the middle of modding my xbox to go in there, but someday i'd like to see if i could build a new apu unit... but i'm not sure when that'll be
  12. Apologies for the delay, but i took some photos to show the connections and hopefully explain how it all hooks up, its hard to take a photo to show it all. BUT FIRST, THE KEY! Original Xbox Kiosk Key LINK So that should be good for just about all the original xbox kiosks... again unless someones swapped the locks. now, i tried to take some photos and put together a horrible little diagram of how i have things hooked up. So, i'll start with the xbox cable... it's a modified cable... and it plugs into the xbox like a normal AV cable, but it not only has the standard RCA but also an 8 pin connector. That 8 pin connector connects to the one side of the APU. The RCA's connect to the TV. ( i dont bother with the video signal, just do the audio for now). The APU has 4 connectors, the 8 PIN coming from the xbox, then a small headphone jack style plug which is what goes to the reset button. An S-Video Output, and the DC Input. Here's a closup of the reset button. it's a standard arcade looking button which hits the switch and leads to the headphone looking jack. For the DC input thats a fairly standard plug. The S-video is also just a standard s-video cable. and thats about it. what i'd love to do someday is figure if it's possible to duplicate this APU unit and make copies for folks. looking at the circuit board it doesn't seem that crazy, but i'm not an expert in that. Let me know if this helps or not!
  13. Hey All, A month late to the party, but i happened to be googling around when i stumbled upon this thread and thought i'd sign up and spread the joy of owning this kiosk... I acquired this kiosk back in December, had it delivered in March and have been obsessed with it ever since. In order to get it to the basement, i basically stripped it down piece by piece to get it down there, while cleaning it up and even replacing all the screws with new versions. So i feel like a bit of an expert on this beast. One of the bottom tubes had its lower LED wire torn off, so i spent a few days rewiring all of the LEDs just to upgrade the wiring and ensure they were all good. I've also spent the past month or two modding the snot out of my xbox... still a work in progress but getting closer! To answer some questions that were posted already, here's a photo of the box that came with mine for the power unit I dont have the best photo of the AV cable, but it's a modified cable One thing i noticed is that plugging in the button which does the reset, it has to be plugged in very tightly, otherwise mine would restart if I bumped the kiosk... so starting any game and handling the controller would cause it to restart, but i just had to make sure it's really plugged in all the way. and it's been good. As far as Keys go... they are actually dirt cheap if you know where to look. and i'm not sure the rules about posting links, so to save on that, there's a company out there called ultimate security devices. if you google them, then search their site for "1001 Mini tubular (barrel ) key"... you'll find them for like 4 bucks. Now the site says they are on back order, but i ordered 6 and they shipped them out that day. got them a few days later and they were perfect. These keys are supposed to be good for all US based original xbox kiosks, but it does depend on if someone swapped the locks or not on your kiosk as folks tend to do that. I could go on and on, but this is my first post so i'll stop the novel there. Feel free to shoot any other questions my way! I'll do my best to answer what i can!
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