CIB_Wholesale

9 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

I'd like to enter into evidence my sealed John Madden was suddenly said to be a reseal, whilst the owner of another profited hugely off if his testimony regarding that

i love how it's common knowledge that with increased demand comes increased supply but HA/wata was complaining they didnt have new inventory coming in

so there is 10x demand and 1/2 supply?????

and the titles and conditions just got worse from the inception they had to spread out their grails  further and further. I heard they were canceling weeklys or something

it's the opposite of math. if HA makes 100k sale with 20k in fees then i should be able to spend 20k-25k in advertising to get 80k for the same game

however my 85+ sonic 1 was estimated at about 3k after one sold for almost half a million

16 hours ago, ExplodedHamster said:

I don't really buy/sell on VGS (though I did quite a bit on NA back in the day), but trust me when I say far too much of the money has gone back into games. If you don't believe me, ask my wife.

We all have the same sickness, brother. 

 

nobody's buying it brother

i'd like to enter into evidence that i didnt get rich in 2018-2021, but you did

case closed

green screen shots = $$$$$

blurry photo sealed games = $$$$$$$$$$

oh i missed the 3rd step to have it WATA'd

guess it's worth nothing

but since we dont let's assume the next one will go for world record, 2-3x price chart, 50k pricing

ive been horsebeat-marketed for so long it's just another grandma's attic lie

On 10/27/2023 at 3:30 PM, Jfreakofkorn said:

Wish we could physical foto(s) of past auction(s) at what cart number(s) were being sold 

bust out the tennis memes

didnt the last mario n64 game sell for over a million dollars?

this is probably atleast 500k

On 10/25/2023 at 11:40 AM, retro.magnus said:

A lot of racket with this WATA stuff coming back up. But nonetheless, I got another top of the pop game back from CGC. Took advantage of their $10 discount as well. 

1 hour ago, LeatherRebel5150 said:

Is that the guy that loves graded games?

is that the guy that does paid HA livestreams?

he said it was a 'easy 50k'

https://www.pricecharting.com/game/nes/nintendo-world-championship

pretty far off

that's how they pump by placing comps that dont sell often as 'easy' 2-3x

has anyone ever beat price charting? ever? for anything?

deniz wouldnt issue a press release like that unless he had it in hand

it's a spooky made up story for Halloween to scare people

6 minutes ago, WalterWhiteJr. said:

@Gulag Joeyou seem like a fine guy, I just continue to find it head scratching as to why you feel the need to defend Wata at every turn. Folks manipulated the market and lots of people lost a TON of money due to said manipulation. This is not that difficult to decipher. Read the room.

i know rite?

that guy should be paid. and the 1.56M guy.

in fact California has the most strict rules about it:

the room is pretty empty !!! funny to look  back at all the unpaid promotions

(wata)what happened?

https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/david-hall-dumped-from-companies-he-co-founded.html

https://www.numismaticnews.net/us-coins/collectors-universe-to-be-privately-owned

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/why-collectors-universe-stock-traded-up-18-today-2021-01-20

https://www.ocbj.com/finance/collectors-universe-gets-45b-valuation/

https://www.beckett.com/news/sale-of-psa-parent-company-collectors-universe-completed/

https://www.ocbj.com/news/weekly-news/card-counters/

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210714005598/en/Collectors-Universe-Expands-Into-Video-Game-Authentication-Grading-with-Acquisition-of-Wata-Games

3 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

That’s pretty good!

16 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

Why do my words bother you so much? You can use your posts to hate on Wata and the hobby all you want. I’m going to continue to spread positivity. Now say it with me: nothing is going to happen!

positivity is inaction? seems like a insider

now say it with me:

Nothing is going to halpren

7 minutes ago, OptOut said:

I'm not really bothered, I'm just feel kinda... pity? I guess? You have clearly invested a lot in this, whether it be emotional, financial, whatever. It is just a little sad to see, you are one of their victims too, clearly.

Just now, Gulag Joe said:

For the racketeering, the plaintiffs will have to prove that their games were intentionally held indefinitely so Wata could sell other, similar games for the high amounts. I think the only remote way for this to work is if one of them had, for example, Tecmo Bowl, which sold for $144k. And then the next one sold for half that amount. But because Wata held on to their game for so long, the plaintiff couldnt capitalize on the sale of their game because wata wanted to sell their own game first.

 

Sounds even clearer that nothing is going to happen.

the answers are probably in the 'ask the winner of the auction if they want to sell it' button on HA

why arent those comps published?

3 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

Last action was over a year ago. CU had the case moved to Colorado likely because the charges were prior to CU’s acquisition of wata. Sounds like nothing is going to happen other than maybe 3 dudes will get their money back for inaccurate turnaround times on grading. Hey my games took more than a year to grade too, maybe I need to sue!

I just want the judge to open up a 9.0A+ and say

'oh wow calling this a 9/10 is a crime against gaming'

5 minutes ago, a3quit4s said:

Is the docket the schedule of the court for the day? I think they meant the court filings for the case which I think goes over the charges brought against and the evidence to support crimes being committed. If anyone has a link to the suit I’d be grateful, I was trying to find it but came up short. 

United States District Court, Central District of California, Southern Division. Case no. 8:22-cv-00967-DOC-KES

1 hour ago, Gulag Joe said:

How do you get VGS feedback?

1. first get 1.56 million dollars

2. then go to  the BUY/SELL/TRADE section

3. inside you'll find a button called 'start a new topic'

4. post ur items (you're looking for a great buyer experience --- not money ---  so since you have 1.56 M dollars you could probably rack up feedback by selling at a significant discount to price charting. This will almost guarantee good FB)

2 hours ago, Gulag Joe said:

I have insider information:

says the guy with 0 VGS feedback

nothing happens with u over here either

7 minutes ago, MrWunderful said:

A lot of fucking people care about that bro. You need to stop talking like your opinion carries any weight For the general populace. 
 

Do you have actual insider information? All you do is make conjecture like its fact, with nothing to back it up. Can you clarify the difference between the roles that an advisor played, vs a board member during this time? Do you have a copy of their contract, or discussions? Im sure if an ADVISORY board member, and someone on the BOARD OF DIRECTORS who were best buds who collected games would never talk about how to make a bunch of money manufacturing hype its almost like its the first time something shady went down for money

 

This looks exceptionally shady to everyone, except the people that have money tied up as investments, and the hanger-ons. 
 

I still know a bunch of people, here and else where that are tied up in this mess. Weather on the ADVISORY BOARD or “unofficial” advisors

 

Thank god i collect non graded
 

here's a fun one from one of the haspel bros: july 2019:

to be honest i thought the judge was going to rule with CU and throw out the case

so double surprised on both being accepted

35 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

the most important factor in selling a sealed game is the comps

buyers will ride a low comp forever. until the next comp

sellers will hold on to a high comp forever. until the next comp

the part that's missing are eBay, known private, and VGS comps happening alongside with similar pricing

it was sort of believable until the 1.56 mario

12 minutes ago, RH said:

Dude, that's a gross under-estimation of the sealed game collecting market and the graded game market.  Sure, there might have been "4-5" graded game collectors back in 2018 who were looking to own every game, but there were plenty of us that enjoyed owning "a few" graded games.  There's a wide range, and the main target market they Wata wanted to manipulate were both the collectors who like to own a few, nice pieces for their shelves but ALSO the people who can be motivated to get into armchair speculative bubbles that scratch itches like nostalgia.

you're right! 2 left

i think you're confusing resellers and collectors:

the resellers get changed out every 4 or so years

1 minute ago, RH said:

I just don't know his actual motives and intents.  However, back in that time frame, it was well obvious who the big collectors were back at NA

ya wouldnt you say that having 2 of them start marketing their 'consignments with nothing attached' would have an impact on the other 4 sealed collectors?

1 minute ago, OptOut said:

it's not just that the people who 'werent involved' were involved but they took a lot of steps to tell everyone they werent involved while being involved

8 hours ago, OptOut said:

To my knowledge, Bronty id not a named defendant in the ongoing civil litigation against WATA/Collector's Universe.

However, it was always known that Bronty was the one who sold the Mario, and it was always known that Jim Halpern (owner of Heritage Auctions) was one of the three co-purchasers of that game.

What we didn't know at the time of the sale (but came out later on) was that they BOTH were founding members of WATA's board at the time of that purchase.

 

its actually funny because this email Bronty sent me states he has no relationship with video games

or the video game hobby

QUOTE FROM SEPTEMBER 1st 2019

'You may not realize this but I haven't given much of a shit about
collecting games for 11 years now.    Since that time I've been
collecting the art used to make the boxes.   I know that you're still
very into the games but if I don't trade much its because I basically
keep what I have unless somebody approaches me with a really good
offer to buy something.    Its just that simple.    The time I spend
collecting I spend on art.' ----BRONTY  SEPTEMBER 2019
 

so bronty sent me this email about not being in the hobby while he was on the board of wata?