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    VGA 85 Mike Tyson Punch-Out Sells for $11k (White Oval Seal)

    in VG Economics

    Posted

    People that have been watching the sealed market knew this one was heating up, but this was a strong and surprising sale:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mike-Tysons-Punch-Out-VGA-85-NM-1989-Nintendo-NES-New-Factory-Sealed-H-Seam/193168129038

    White seal (last print) and not even gold condition, though 85 is still a solid collector copy.  If I had to guess, probably about 5 or 6 times higher than it would have sold about a year ago.  Strong increase indeed.

    Top 5 NES game for me, such a classic but the sale was certainly impressive.  Thoughts?

    Changing Game Preferences

    in The Gauntlet

    Posted

    I tend to like the same genres that I've always liked, but greatly prefer to play more titles than try to fully beat one.  When you're a kid you only get new games so often.  So you'd master them and play them over and over.  Now I'm more of a one and done guy, play it, beat it if it keeps my attention then move on.  Don't try to 100% complete games or do many unlockables anymore.

    story with GameValueNow?

    in Everything Else

    Posted

    Yes, GVN got bought out as well.  I also strongly preferred GVN over Pricecharting, but thank god GoCollect didn't buy them both.  The competition lets us hope that pricing data will continue to remain free.  If GC buys them all then it's only a matter of time before you have to pay to get pricing information.

    WATA CIB Grading

    in General Collecting Discussion

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, Code Monkey said:

    Many games were mismatched like this from the factory.

    Not exactly but I get what you're saying.

    Take a game like Contra. Only came in a circle seal box, yet there are oval and circle seal carts.  So clearly a oval seal cart would have came in a circle seal box.

    Take a game like Mario.  Came in many different boxes, so in this case the oval seal cart would have only come in the oval seal box.  Putting a oval seal cart in a circle seal box would result in IMP, incorrectly married part. 

    WATA CIB Grading

    in General Collecting Discussion

    Posted

    47 minutes ago, Gloves said:

    I've not followed along toooo closely, so I'll ask - have games been graded Wata 10 yet? If so, what makes that possible? Like, hew spectacularly perfect does a game have to be? 

    There's been at least a couple of Wata 10's as sealed.  CIB I assume is a max of 9.6 or 9.8 after wear from opening, assuming the insides were perfect (which they aren't guaranteed to be). 

    WATA CIB Grading

    in General Collecting Discussion

    Posted

    Two separate points.

    I brought up this IMP problem months ago on NA and spoke to Deniz about it.  They did start marking IMP on the front of the game.  So that Mario linked above is an "early" graded Wata game.  Take a look at the recently completed Excitebike on HA that has IMP on the front. I do agree it should still be much more clear though, different color or something.  It should be a mark of death and not desirable.

    https://comics.ha.com/itm/video-games/excitebike-matte-sticker-imp-cart-wata-45-cib-nes-nintendo-1985/a/121943-17288.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

    As for the CIB methodology, it's unfair to use the extreme examples of sticker seal black boxes or hangtab boxes where the box dominates the value.  Of course that is what is in at the moment, but the scale of 50% box / 30% cart / 20% manual is a universal scale applying to all graded CIBs.  It should just reiterate that a 6.0 game is not that great of a great.

    While the CIB scale is soft on the poor items it is extremely tight at the high end.  A 9.4 CIB is a truly beautiful specimen.  A 9.6 CIB may as well be a 10.0 Sealed game.  At least speaking from the cardboard perspective, as I imagine disc based CIBs (if people grade those) would be a lot easier. 

    Wata price hikes / turnaround time increases

    in Sealed & Graded Collecting

    Posted

    Yeah, prices are now more in line with VGA pricing.  To be honest, this is long overdue.  You shouldn't just grade any game, you should be selective in which games you submit.  Higher prices will force you to be more selective for sure.

    I also have never submitted a game to any grading company under the cheapest tier.  That tier should be long and cheap by definition of economy.  180 seems a bit high but it should be at least 90. 

    Worth risking life for?

    in Everything Else

    Posted

    I stay home in more than 2-3" of snow generally.  Well, at least work from home.  After the snow is done and the roads are plowed I'll go out, but nothing is worth me hitting the roads otherwise.  Exception would be obvious emergency when I had to get to the hospital or something of that nature. 

    Wata - A year and a half after

    in General Collecting Discussion

    Posted

    I'm no investigative journalist, but surely where there is smoke, there is fire. Maybe it's a small fire, maybe a large fire, maybe a wildfire, but something caused the smoke. People can reach their own conclusions but you won't catch me defending the guy.

    Bottom line, capitalism is a great thing that rewards people for innovation. But pure unethical greed is nothing more than getting rich at the expense of others.

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    Wata - A year and a half after

    in General Collecting Discussion

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Bronty said:

    I’ll provide some points to think about from what might be a different perspective  then the ‘conspiracy theory’ POVs some here subscribe to.

    1. I don’t know Jim but I’ve heard enough to believe Jim is already a very, very wealthy man.   Those that think he’s doing this to get rich or whatever?   It’s so incredibly off base.   It’s like thinking Eminem is going to get rich off of you downloading a song or something.   The fact that Deniz even managed to get heritage’s Attention to even want to list games is such a major coup for growing the hobby that words can’t even describe it.    Until you have a real platform for the sale of games in this kind of setting, the hobby cannot grow past a certain point.   I don’t think you guys appreciate just how much this changes everything, or perhaps you do, and that’s why some of you are lashing out. 

    2.  As for Jim’s and Heritages repitation, I know this.    I’ve never heard first hand from any collector of comics or cards or coins (and I’ve dealt with so many people that have done business with them, as I have myself) of anything less than professional dealings.    Do you have any idea the amount of work that goes into running an enterprise like that?    Someone at the top of that generally has very little time for monkeying around and again, I don’t know Jim but from what I’ve seen, that’s not him.   

    Trump is a wealthy business man and I wouldn't exactly call him a commendable man.  Not even touching the politics side, just making the point that being wealthy means nothing more than you are good at making money (or inheriting money).  Doesn't say a thing about your ethics or other measures of your character.

    I just suggest you read this small article that touches on some of his history.  It's pretty staggering honestly.

    https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/1227/156.html#433c1c052e07

    So he was scamming people at 13. He returned $100k in stolen money (investing in a non existent business) and no charges were filed.

    Then he founded a coin grading company, over inflated grades and heavily marketed the industry to lure in new people making millions.  He had to pay out $1.2M in restitution and closed up shop.  Article goes on an on.

    You can literally go through that article and replace every reference of "coins" to "video games" and it is almost exactly what is happening today, except I do believe Wata is honest and Halperin has absolutely no influence on the grading process.  He is at least removed from that step. But the Wata scale is extremely misleading to someone who doesn't understand video games.  A VGA 80 to 85 is pretty much a lock at 9.0 and higher unless you had a fluke game that had a poor box with pristine wrap (those are not the norm and would map to 8.0 / 8.5 with A+ or higher, instead of 9.0 and higher with B+ to A wraps).  

    So yes, this is slightly offtopic as it is more to HA than Wata, but pretty relevant to the thread. 

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