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On 10/17/2021 at 2:50 PM, Shmup said:

I doubt you read all 46 pages because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

People like Jonebone were in GME and doing DD before WSB even were talking about it. DoctorEncore is an options guy and has given a lot of info in that space. For this whole year I’ve done a running commentary on my lithium play. 

Pretty easy for you to come in and say people know nothing. How about you give us your DD and we’ll see how you’re sitting in a year.

Thank you for proving my point in a quality summary fashion.  Anyone talking about DD while not referring to bra size is a bona fide WSB autist.

I like that this thread is on page 46 and yet not one of you that has commented has any idea how to interpret a corporate balance sheet in order to calculate a valuation for a company.  Instead you just regurgitate things you saw in a meme on WSB on Reddit.  Stonkz!

150 pages, and we can’t yet agree that everyone associated with WATA are assholes?

I find it impossible to take seriously anything a guy that wears tank tops says or does.

1 minute ago, MrWunderful said:

Can someone just give me like 100 K for my two shitty slabbed games Before this whole house of cards collapses? K thanks

I’m right there with you.  FOMO has now flipped to fear of missing cashing out.

11 minutes ago, Crystalis88 said:

How does everyone feel about mark haspel running an eBay business selling Wata games ? Story dropped this morning 

I think that at this point if you’re a WATA or HA defender, you should have a CAT scan done on your head immediately to find out what mentally debilitating brain injury you have.

12 minutes ago, tidaldreams said:

I've been informed that it is possible that the 9.8 A++ may be in better condition than the 95U, due to the way VGA grades N64 boxes. I'm going to go ahead and say that the 9.8 A++ will sell for more since the investor types probably don't know what VGA is.

I’m going to assume that by “investor types”, you mean bidders with an ownership stake in Heritage Auctions and/or WATA.  In that case, I agree with you 100%.

It’s happening!  Metal Jesus made a video of little substance about it!  Wooooooooooo!

7 minutes ago, kell said:

Yes. I’ve had multiple private offers from collectors.

To @jonebone’s point earlier regarding private offers, all you have to do is post a pic of a sought after game and the messages start coming. There is plenty of demand for five and six figure games.

Show me an actual buyer.  I’m not interested in the multitude of probable scammers that are making offers.  Show me someone that has paid actual money and doesn’t have a corporate interest in driving up the prices of sealed video games.

We’re nearing page 100 I see.  Has a single buyer of a 6 figure game (better yet, a $500k+ game) been located yet that isn’t affiliated with a video game grading, auction house, or fractional share company?  Until such people appear from the rock they’re apparently all hiding under, I’ll continue to perceive the explosion in sealed video game prices as 90% scumbaggery and 10% naivety.

The easiest and cleanest way for it to be proved that the explosion of values of sealed video games isn’t 100% caused by the market manipulation of grading companies, auction houses, and/or fractional share companies would be for buyers of the 6 figure games to reveal themselves and not be affiliated with a grading company, auction house, and/or fractional share company.  That would prove that there is actual demand at these prices.  I honestly have never believed anyone without a corporate agenda has bought any of these high priced sealed games.

21 hours ago, AdamW said:

Check the box style. The foil print is in a double-ended box. The non-foil print is in a y-fold box. Double-ended box - has openable flaps on top and bottom. Y-fold - has an openable flap on the top, but a folded bottom flap that is not meant to be opened. You can usually identify these pretty easily with a bit of practice. e.g. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255071839965 is a double-ended (foil) copy. A good thing to look for are those cuts at either end of the top and bottom flaps; y-fold boxes do not have those. https://www.ebay.com/itm/234113843024 is a y-fold (non-foil) copy - see how it doesn't have those four little cuts.

BTW, if you're looking for "first print", note I don't know if anyone knows for sure which of these prints came first, or whether they may be contemporaneous. There's a general notion that the foil/DE print is first but it's not really based on any factual knowledge I'm aware of. The print code for the y-fold boxes has a -1 on the end which the DE print codes don't, but that doesn't clearly mean a whole lot (in fact it's more mysterious than useful, if you want to go into details...), and IIRC a fairly knowledgeable collector in the WATA games FB group had a reasonable theory that the y-fold print may be first or they may be contemporaneous.

Thanks a lot!  This is exactly the info I was hoping for.

Is there an easy way to spot the foil versions of Zelda Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons from pictures?  I’m looking to buy a complete copy of each game, but when I look at listings online I can’t seem to tell whether or not I’m looking at a foil version.

10 hours ago, Shmup said:

I own a $100K in each of the following:

- Beanie Babies

- Pets.com stock

- Model trains

- Tulips

- Disney Black Diamond VHS

I'm riding these all to the moon baby!

That is a nicely diversified portfolio.

10 hours ago, inasuma said:

Cringe post of the century 

Found one 

I would like a show of hands.  How many of you that are up in arms about the prices paid for some sealed video games own meme stocks and/or cryptocurrency and don’t recognize the irony? 

PM sent

3 minutes ago, Code Monkey said:

It doesn't matter what's on the outside of the box protector, if the game is able to move around inside the box protector, then it can possibly move fast enough to bang into the inside of the box protector hard enough to damage it. Think about if someone tosses that box to someone else and your game is moving inside, then suddenly comes to a stop. It'll slam up against the inside of the box protector and cause damage. That's why I avoided them.

It looks like someone rolled a pizza cutter with fine teeth across it.  Unless it travelled through a black hole into a new universe while on its way to WATA, I’m 100% confident it wasn’t damaged during my shipping.  WATA’s awful return packaging is another story.  The shipping box they used was thinner than a typical shoe box.  I realize arguing with a WATA fan is like trying to convince a MAGA fan that Trump lost the election, but here I am.

55 minutes ago, Code Monkey said:

You mentioned you put the game into a plastic case when shipping and this looks like something that could happen in one of those cases. The cases aren't completely snug so the game can move around a tiny bit inside them. During shipping it's likely this game moved back and forth probably 100 times or more so this can happen easily.

When I shipped my games I only used bubble wrap for this reason.

I think you’re out of your mind of you think an NES game packed as game-plastic box protector-bubble wrap-box-bubble wrap-outer box got damaged all the way across the front of box when I mailed it.

To clarify, the NES game box I got back ungraded from WATA is for sure the same game box I sent them, it just now has extra damage to the box.  I figure either WATA accidentally damaged it due to them rushing through orders to try to catch up, or it was damaged during return shipping due to WATA’s shoddy packaging used for return shipping.  Either way, I’ll never do business with them again.

Funny you mention this because I received a CIB NES game back from WATA last week after they sent me a strange email saying they couldn’t authenticate the manual and offered to grade only the box and cart.  I told them to mail it back to me ungraded.

When I received it, it now has a seemingly fresh indentation line across the front of the box that has a pattern to it - almost like you’d expect to see if a cookie dough roller cutter was run across the box.  I mailed the game within a plastic box protector and packed it very well (bubble wrap, double boxed).  WATA mailed it back to me without the box protector, with the game within one of their typical plastic zip lock bags, and then wrapped in 2 thin layers of bubble wrap.  They also used the seemingly thinnest shipping box they could find.  This was my first and for sure last time using WATA.

On top of the game box damage, they’ve now twice dodged my emailed question of whether or not they plan to refund me their grading fee, replying to my emails with no actual answer regarding a refund.

PM sent 

This is my cat, Gizmo.  Every day, Gizmo inspects the mail when I bring it into the house.  In this picture, he’s inspecting a couple envelopes that contained NES posters.

Depending on how you measure either a 1st print CIB Zelda NES with “cassette” manual I paid $50 for that would grade as 8.0 or 8.5 overall, or a PS3 sealed 3D Dot Game Heroes I paid $1 shipped when a retailer was clearing them out.

I would rather buy a pile of sealed 4.0 Wata graded Intellivision games from Heritage Auctions than invest a penny into crypto.