VideoGameGradersLLC

16 hours ago, MrWunderful said:

@VideoGameGradersLLC I like everything I see so far. 

Thanks
 

I was pretty skeptical at first, but seeing some proof makes me feel much more like you are serious about it. 

Tried to tell you

But I get it  Seeing is believing  

Im curious to see what (if any) design you have that would show proof of tamper. I understand if its proprietary or secret right now and you dont want to share, though. 
 

Label (our or new never used before lable) will have a unique ID number for each game that can be verified online and include pregrade photos to help confirm so the very worst any tampering would have to be the same game. But that’s going to be very hard to do. Label will have a hologram with our name and or logo on it, along with one or two additional measures that we will only reveal to registered members upon request as an added security level. The case itself will need to broken to be opened, will have digitally printed logo/name on the case itself which would take great effort to reproduce and we are looking at a small holographic external sticker at a seem of the case that would leave residue behind if removed. 
Long answer when YES probably would have sufficed. 
 

I would probably be open to trying your service. 
 

Glad to hear it  Thanks Again

7 hours ago, Dr. Morbis said:

My only issue is that you seem to be putting small scuffs/marks on the same level as actual creases in the box

That has been the biggest moving part in the scorecard, we have had scratches, wrinkles and creases as 3 separate categories at one point and every other combo. I agree they shouldn’t be together as creases are more detrimental to overall condition. Probably need to have creases as a category and wrinkles/scratches as another. Besides the big manual difference one thing that makes the Top Gun box and 10-Yard Fight box closer in grade is corners, especially on the back, minor wear on four corners brought down 10YF but TG is strong there. Need to tweak handling  corners I think, too much sportscard background influence probably. 
Appreciate the feedback. 

4 minutes ago, OptOut said:

Lol, @VideoGameGradersLLC has finally proved his worth, and so we've immediately turned on each other!

It’s a good thing I didn’t show a sealed game. 

11 minutes ago, Code Monkey said:

What kind of engineer misspells label?

Foreign ones 

As long as I'm sharing, one of the working designs for the case updated. Yes I know we can't have tape (even clear) runing down the back length of the case.  Engineers man. Am I right?

Plus some of the other concepts still floating about. 

Top Gun 84

Last, and probably least TOP GUN

10-Yard Fight 84

See grade math on the worksheet.  

I want to do something different (as you've all hammered on - rightfully so) but is a non 100 point based scoring system too confusing?  Do I need always show not just score but grade on the label of each individual part??  Just thinking out loud, I'm sure you'll have opinions - which I do appreciate most of the time.  

10-Yard Fight

This one I think the grading system was very tough on, perhaps too tough - at least on the box which to the eye is extremely nice.  Manual is crap which drug it down but even the box score itself seems harsh but it should be hard to get higher. 

Never mind, the pics showed up. 

Mach Rider 77

Box 93/120 = 77.5

Man 26 / 40 =65

Cart 35 / 40 = 87.5

Mach Rider

Not sure why it's not letting put pics in the text section anymore, but they are attached.  

Pac-Man (Tengen) Grade 66

Box 71 / 120 = 59.2

Man 29 / 40 = 72.5

Cart 32 / 40 = 80

Super Mario Bros. 2 grading sheet. 

73 Overall

Because I know the scoring system will take a lot of heat as it's new and not how the other guys do it, if you want a per piece grade equivalent, you'll have to do math.  Don't rack your brain I did it for you.

Box 92/120 equates to 76.6

Man 26/40 equates to 65

Cart 28/40 equates to 70

Super Mario Bros. 2

I will begin updating a few games that were part of our testing.  If you look very closely you'll notice some minor tweaks within this group as we continue to fine tune.  Despite how some commentary in this lively chat makes it seem we are not opening our doors tomorrow, we are still early in the process. Here comes what you've been asking for, can't wait to see how this goes....

14 minutes ago, OptOut said:

Also, I find it strange that you haven't propagated the link to your survey to any other potential customer bases

I have and will do more. Other outreach so far has been in private groups. 

1 minute ago, Khromak said:

For a guy who seems to really hate sarcasm and mockery, you seem to do a lot of it.

just trying to fit in. 

1 minute ago, Khromak said:

I mean IDK what kind of feedback you were hoping to get

I asked people to fill out a simple survey. 

1 minute ago, Khromak said:

you want feedback on...the concept of having a third grading company?

Yes. 

Just now, OptOut said:

Grade a damn game. Show us pics of the Game, Box and Manual, and tell us what you would grade them and why. No label. No case. Show us your grading chops.

Since you asked nicely I will do that. I’m sure you’ll all be fair and constructive with feedback. 

1 minute ago, VideoGameGradersLLC said:

I will drop some images of the label draft for you all to make fun of tomorrow. 

There are several early sketches on Indiegogo if you’d like to get a head start. 

14 minutes ago, OptOut said:

The sad thing is, this is literally more substance than we've seen from the OP to this point...

What would you like to see?
Spec case drawings with detailed measurements, materials options, tolerances, costs? Maybe I should just drop the STP file I’ve invested over $1200 (so far) to get made? Maybe the security features we’re working on?
I will drop some images of the label draft for you all to make fun of tomorrow. 
 

3 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

Ok I got this, here's a whole offering that is unique, and able to make you $$$: budget grading.

People send you their loose nes carts. By a shrink-wrap machine and reproduction boxes, make those loose games whole and sealed.

Then grade those puppies, guarantee the buyer a gold grade 10 if they pay a higher fee. Market it as a great way to pick up lady friends, impress colleagues, and grow your epeen.

Next logical step, have an appraising service for these games. Take more money from this new market of collectors. I mean, why buy smelly oldies that smell like mold and arse, when you can get perfectly mint items for half the price?

Pair it with an auction house. I've heard that George McKass and Jessie de la Beech both have some nice options. 

That's money in the back right there, slogan can be "Financial constraints, make a mint" . A new way of collecting brought to you by @VideoGameGradersLLC

What is money in the back?

2 minutes ago, GPX said:

Has there been a glitch? Because I didn’t write the stuff in your reply above.

I might have quoted someone from the text of you quoting someone???  Interneting is hard. 

1 minute ago, GPX said:

But at the very least if I had a number from a recognized professional to give to the insurance company

Understand the need but you think getting the public game collecting crowd to trust you good luck with an insurance company trusting anybody new or that they haven't worked with (in bed with) for 100 years. 

3 minutes ago, Gloves said:

BUT, an appraisal service would be incredibly appealing to me. I have money in-hand ready to go if someone can provide that to me, literally right now.

Doesn’t seem like the market is nearly mature enough for that and changing incredibly fast.