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Slow and steady 

@skinnygrinny is 100% No worries at all.

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2 hours ago, jonebone said:

Nice eye.  I love that it seems "authentic" to have some information, but I question those numbers a bit.  The Pure Evil is relatively common compared to the rest, I'm highly skeptical more Super Monkey balls were printed than it.  You also think that Sonic would have printed more than Super Monkey Ball... Sonic was much more of a bread winner wasn't it?

This is where it started and might provide more insight 

Alan Wake. I know it was about the story but the controls were a drag and the combat was stiff.

But a cheap sealed GBA and open it. I’m sure the order to changes 

57 minutes ago, goldenpp72 said:

I don't buy into this at all actually. As an individual I possess the ability to recognize qualities in games even if I dislike them. I don't like sim racers, sports titles, I'm not really into GTA, Assassins Creed, etc, but this is not my judgement to them as being bad games. I also don't prescribe to the idea that the opinions of young children hold real merit to actual quality, as they are literally defined by their low standards in marketing. A game like say, Style Savvy may be a great game that is designed for girls, there may exist a great Barbie game just as there do exist good Spongebob games..

Age however usually brings wisdom, almost all adults can likely define things they loved as children, but realize are not good as adults, even if they carry a special nostalgia for them. My 6 year old niece may not be thrilled by the standard in which I collected as a now nearly 40 year old man, but I don't hold her taste as equally respectable judgement because she has at least another decade or more to go before her sense of taste and understanding of things is likely to be developed.

It's why we don't really care about what kids who would still eat mud think about culinary arts, they just aren't experienced enough to make well thought out decisions. They need a lot more growing before they become respected perspectives, and that applies to nearly all people.

My opinions on game quality versus my game preferences exist in separate silos, I think Forza is an incredibly impressive series, it just doesn't suit my interest just as people who dislike fantasy games may love Madden. I can still look at Madden and tell its a generally competent game made with some level of care. If you like those and collect them I never feel your collection is in turn inferior, just different taste.

Imagine Babiez on the other hand, is designed by people who know the threshold of experience of the expected demographic is very low, and thus the effort is a low bar at best. I do not believe I have ever encountered an adult who would say any of them are "actually pretty good!". Where as something like Cooking Mama may look like a trash game, but it's actually pretty fun and retains an adult fanbase because it's competently made. 

Also if ever you tell me, I really, really love the Imagine Babiez series, I'd at least hear you out with an open mind, but I would certainly have reservations personally. There is a reason most adults grow out of watching shows like Sesame Street though, even if they are great kid shows, they don't hold up to adult scrutiny and they shouldn't have to. Unless I have a personal nostalgia for it in that case,  I see no reason to keep it around personally. If you do, that's cool too.

I don’t think anyone is looking for you to buy into the concept but what I’m saying I believe represents the majority. These old games that we all collect target market was 12-24 back in the 1990s and later shifted….. they were targeted for kids, not you, and for you to dismiss their taste speaks volumes. The majority of gamers are now in that 18-34 area and that will be the driving force for how collecting goes. 

Anyhow, I can see the bigger picture and not just focused on my corner of collecting. I respect all collecting styles and will never pass judgement on another’s way of collecting games. I also respect the developers of these games and while some may not be my style, they will always have room on my shelf. 

Also, I don’t believe I ever mentioned young kids in my reply.….. so we are clear both the kids I spoke of are over 18 and their opinion means a lot to these companies that market games. I can draw the assumption based on your reply that you do not have kids thus your respect for their views wouldn’t align with mine…… you don’t have the experience. 

2 hours ago, goldenpp72 said:

It's all perspective, imagine collecting against say, a buffet. If you have a choice between 2 buffets, one of which has nothing but great food, and the other which includes all the great food but also dog shit and dead mice laced around said buffet, you most likely would stick with the one you know only has good selections. Even if you don't eat every selection, you'd want to know every selection has potential to be great each time. 

Even if the good options exist to select, not everyone is going to want bad options thrown around. Collecting of course is a bit more nuanced, maybe you find the history of some games interesting, etc. That's not that likely if you're going for a full set, at that point you're checking boxes and at best expressing intense love towards a specific platform, which is fine too, but it's easy to see why people often avoid it, especially people who elect to want games they would play. 

You can of course draw another comparison such as history, wanting to include the good, the bad and the ugly to paint the full picture, but I think the major point will always boil down to why you collect, people like myself don't collect sealed games for a reason, we want the potential to interface with it to exist, and perhaps to be fun. 

What’s great or good is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, there are exceptional games but it’s always on someone’s taste. I can tell you my daughter will want to walk into your game room and want to play Imagine Babies or Just Dance over Legend of Zelda or Call of Duty. Once you get over a certain amount of games it really is on what you desire as a collector because there is no way physically possible to play them all. Your style is to get what are your top xxx for that system, another collector may want to see a sea of 1200+ white spine Wii games or 1700+ DS games. 
 

What you believe is trash isn’t to others….. My son would walk into your game room and first question is where are the Madden and 2k games….. Sports games are among the best selling games every year but you don’t collect them. Does that make them trash? No, just not something you want to display or pull off the shelf and play.

21 minutes ago, goldenpp72 said:

I have a bit over 10,000, and of course I'll never get to play through them all, but as a selection of games you can rest assured most of them are good to great games.  When looking through my shelves I'm not greeted with Imagine Babies and what have you by the thousands, and that matters too.

Proves my point

6 hours ago, goldenpp72 said:

Imagine going for a full DS or Wii set. As great as they both are, they are filled to the brim with horrible trash as well, you have to dig through tons of crap to find the real stuff, even if both have great libraries the ratios are just too aggressive. 

You have over 6,000 games if I recall correctly, do you actually think you will get to play them all? Not a chance and the same applies for the trash on DS and Wii. When you have reached the stage you decide to full set collect for multiple systems your goals are different along with the expectations that every game you’ll have a chance to play. Set collecting is for fun like anything else. Sometimes the beauty is assembling the trash nobody else wants.

It takes a different type of breed to go after full sets, even in the past. You have to be ok with spending your hard earned money on a quite a few games you’ll never play BUT the trade off is worth it. If any friends comes over, remembers a game they played as a kid and if I collect for the system …… BOOM…..I’ll have it on the shelf or if I ever watch a video and they recommend a game it’s right there on the shelf

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3 hours ago, GamerSmith548 said:

So I’ve been looking at some Nintendo published SNES games and noticed that a lot of the later ones (from 1995 and onward) have both “Made in Japan” and “Made in Mexico” variants. Which one of them is considered a first print?

There are three types

1. Made in Japan

2. Made in Mexico

3. Assembled in Mexico 

Made in Japan came 1st and at some point Nintendo transitioned some games to manufacturing in Mexico thus Made in Mexico. They usually start with U/ in the product code. 
 

Assembled in Mexico are reprints of popular games and have black and white manuals with trash box quality. As mentioned earlier only Frogger is the 1st print of those of about 26 or 27 games. 

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I will forever collect full sets although I the grind of it at times has me at a pause until I’m ready to go full speed. I’ve got 3-5 more sets I may want to accomplish before I hang it up….. you not alone.

LONG LIVE FULL SET COLLECTORS! 

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14 minutes ago, LeatherRebel5150 said:

I was talking specifically about December and  upcoming January. I could be wrong but I remember having to add/keep an eye on way more games in this two month period in year’s previous 

I know what you meant..... there has been no major slow down in those months from my data. Historically Dec/Jan has always been slow months for new releases. The switch will pass 2000 NA releases next year. 

13 hours ago, LeatherRebel5150 said:

1700 games mark surpassed

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18UCeKB0rLMvko4ZJjxm665hbqjpoD-7bxjX0i7OkKyU/edit

I’ve noticed there is a VERY distinct difference in the release schedule in December/January this year. It’s very lite. Possibly signs most studios have moved to developing for the next console

This has been their largest year of releases..... 384 physical releases actually shipped. (there are still over 100 in the pre-order stage from Big Box retailers and Limited Prints) 

I believe Nintendo really wants that #1 slot as the best selling game system passing the PS2. They are going to hold on as long as they can to make it happen. once they announce the next gen system it will hurt them so I say early 3rd qtr announcement for holiday season. 
 

The Switch 2 from a tech standpoint won’t have 4k on the handheld but I expect a different dock that will have a graphics processor in it to get you to 4k. Look for improved joy-cons and maybe even an option to buy one with a D-Pad. I think they play it close to the vest and no gimmicks just improvements across the board and people will say this should have been the Switch Pro.
 

Backwards compatibility has some challenges from a technical standpoint so we will see how that goes. 

3 hours ago, PII said:

Are you looking for "Box and Manual" or CIB?

Either is fine with me

4 hours ago, Trifecta said:

Wouldn't happen to need a mint condition Sports Trivia Championship Edition, do you?

No, picked that one up a long time ago. Thanks for checking in.

Looking to pick up a few Sega Game Gear games. Condition doesn't matter as long as it has the box. No manual is ok as well. Let me know if you have anything you want to sell.

Thanks

1. Batter Up
2. Casino FunPak
3. Crystal Warriors
4. Fantasy Zone
5. FIFA Soccer 96
6. Formula 1
7. Greendog: The Beached Surfer Dude!
8. Hook
9. jungle Strike
10. Kawasaki Superbike Challenge
11. Klax
12. Krusty's Fun House
13. Last Action Hero
14. Lost World: Jurassic Park
15. Magical Puzzle Popils
16. Pac-Attack
17. Paperboy
18. R.C. Grand Prix
19. Rise of the Robots
20. Samurai Shodown
21. Spider-Man / X-Men in Arcade's Revenge
22. Sports Illustrated: Championship Football & Baseball
23. Super Golf
24. Urban Strike

Thank you @xelement5x for helping me.

@GamerSmith548 Here is one for you.

Torpedo Range

• Box (DMG-TE-USA)

• Cartridge (DMG-TE-USA)

• Manual (DMG-TE-USA)

• Nintendo Power (GP-DMG-USA-2)

• Precautions Booklet (DMG-USA-4)

• Nintendo Poster (ROM-DMG-TE)

• Cardboard Cartridge Holder

• Cartridge Case

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