Gulag Joe

The VGA pop report, though somewhat challenging to navigate, show that only 2 sealed NES galoob game genies have been graded. I'll start the bidding at 400 billion

VGA actually put those road blocks up to prevent us from seeing how many Al Unser Jr Turbo racing games they’ve graded. I’m in the process now of contracting with that brilliant legal team that tried to sue Wata because a lot of people started spending more money than you’re allowed to on the video games they graded.

I want to believe every vga qualified is truly 100% complete

So I have the Barkley version (top photo). The back of the box, underneath “made in Japan”, the paragraph line is straight. I find it interesting though that Heritage recently listed one with “Majerle version” and that paragraph line is indented (bottom photo). If you go back to their older auctions, they’re listing that same “Majerle version” as early production. However, the later production version is the one that swapped Barkley for Majerle. Whoever bought those heritage “early productions” got effed because they’re holding the later Majerle version.

10 hours ago, final fight cd said:

Has anybody responded to this thread who has professional experience? Not trying to say people can’t have opinions, but would like to hear from somebody who knows what the heck is going on. 

I’m a lawyer and it’s definitely not fraud.

Did you all put Wata in jail yet or are they still out there on the streets grading video games and ruining lives?

I sold a sealed vhs Batman 1989 for $1100 in 2021

1 hour ago, GPX said:

- the people above are contributing to the bidding of 6 to 7 figures on HA (false)

This didn’t happen with only video games. People were spending 6-7 figures on modern sports cards, comic books, vhs tapes, sealed G1 iPhones FFS. This is where the whole “wata and ha” completely falls apart in the bigger picture. It was ALL collectible markets. Video games are not special! Wata and HA didn’t make Timmy poindexter drop $60,000 on a Trevor Lawrence rookie card.

Point is, the prices went up across all collectibles (not just video games) when everyone got free money. And a lot of people who suddenly have lots of money tend to not know how to use it wisely. Once the free money dried up, the steady but steep drop in price is no surprise. There’s definitely a sting bugging some people who had some of these titles selling for tens of thousands and now they’re angry because they held on to theirs for too long and missed the opportunity to sell. I guess if that were me I would want to sue somebody too, but ultimately it would be my own fault. As for the speculators who bought these games at the inflated prices, as Ray once famously said on trailer park boys “it’s the way she goes”.

46 minutes ago, RH said:

And yet you completely ignore that the eye-popping, media attention grabbing $100k SMB “sale” happened an entire year BEFORE the pandemic and 7 months before anyone would even hear the words “SARS COVID-19”.

After that sale event, the hypetrain had been started.  Did COVID-bucks push up those numbers? Certainly some, but Deniz and Jim Halperin lucked out in catching the attention of people that look for get-rich-quick schemes right before the pandemic even hit. This phenomenon would not have been nearly as pronounced as it was, especially for the sealed, graded market had that crowd not pushed with all their might the idea that video game collecting was an investment market about to explode.

If you want to present your point of view, you need to be sure you get your facts straight. You can’t ignore the significant hype and steam speculator investing that was going on during that time.  When COVID hit, people didn’t have extra tens of thousands of dollars to spend on games but some had thousands.  Your theory does not hold water against the several games that went for over $25,000. These were speculative purchases and people were doing that with money they probably already had banked and this get-rich-quick scheme caught there eye because they were bored, wealthy early aged Gen-Xers/older Millenials.

General source for the start of this nonsense: https://www.gamesradar.com/a-sealed-nes-copy-of-super-mario-bros-just-sold-for-over-dollar100000/

Do you have a source link that shows a gloss sticker sealed 9.4 A++ super mario for nes selling for less than $100k since then?

27 minutes ago, OptOut said:

Lol, did it really take you two weeks to clap back with that?

You are correct that the WATA fraudsters got incredibly lucky in the timing of their little scam here, as it did coincide with a remarkable and anomalous boom in collectable markets.

But, that doesn't change their ill-intent and their deceptive actions, which are all now a matter of public record. They were gunning for that boom before the pandemic was so much as a twinkle in a Chinese bat's eye.

If there was no WATA, that covid boom money wouldn't have gone into graded games, it would have just gone into regular game collecting (which it did AS WELL) or other collectable categories (which again, it did as well).

The pandemic boom in collectables is not a part of the accusations against WATA, and to conflate them is a product of either ignorance, willful ignorance, or an intention to distract or mislead.

How’s your lawsuit going Opty? Can you give me the name of your big shot lawyer so I can sue PSA because nobody wants to pay $1,000 for my Kenny Powers rookie card anymore? Thanks bro!

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The real fraud is the video game collecting content creators defrauding many of the people on this board that seem to worship them rather than understanding everyone had limitless government forgivable PPP loans and the influx of new free money was on a scale the world has never seen before. That money hit every single collectibles market and some of us have been trying to tell all of you that. I’m glad this message board is preserved in the video game collecting canon because it makes for an amazing read. You should be suing the content creators for fraud and manipulating your feelings because that’s the real crime that happened here.

7 hours ago, guitarzombie said:

I would like to send this post over to WATA to be graded, so this post can be preserved for all future generations to show them how stupid you are.

Tag me whenever your witch hunt puts a witch in jail. Other than that, you and Lieutenant Pat the Angry Video Gamer can keep the conspiracy content coming. Maybe sell a few pillows while you’re at it!

Oh look, 45 comments of NOTHING HAPPENING other than Pat the nes punk collecting hundreds of thousands of views of the go-to content when things are slow. Rent must be due!

The “play as Barkley” version of NBA Jam for snes has officially been marked as rare.

Does anyone know anything about the specifics of the “play as Barkley” version of NBA Jam for snes? For example, on a sealed copy, how do you know it’s a Barkley version? Also, does anyone know how common the Barkley version is for CIB? Few if any of the listings on eBay are ever specific enough to mention if it’s a Barkley or Majerle version, but I’ve only seen Majerle. Thanks

54 minutes ago, ikk said:

Why exactly would a 71 year old baseball card and a 27 year old game be equal in price..?

baseball cards != videogames

I wasn’t entirely serious with that comment. But it is possible to link the two. Baseball card collecting has bottomed out, it’s now primarily a wealthy persons hobby. Card collector’s desire for rarity in serial numbered cards and low graded populations has transcended to video games. Many of these high dollar buyers are rare card and comic book collectors. It doesn’t stop at games though (VHS, cassette tapes, vinyl, laserdisc), it’s going to be all printed media as it all will soon become extinct.

42 minutes ago, Link said:

How many of those Mickey Mantles are in mint condition?

9. Three times more than SM64. But if you want to count only gem mint, then 3 mantles are gem mint, equaling that of SM64. Therefore, SM64 pricing = 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle. This theory proves that SM64 prices are indeed true and accurate so we can now confidently say that myth has been busted.

Let’s not overlook the fact that pre-2000 game titles are in short supply in sealed condition. Sure some of these prices are coming down, but the supply certainly isn’t going up. There might only be 3 Super Mario 64 Red labels in 9.8 A++ condition, but there are only 94 total sealed SM64s that have been graded by Wata and that number has bottomed out since the million dollar sale. In comparison, there are over 1,600 1952 topps Mickey Mantles out there. The scarcity of sealed games is still a very real thing and it isn’t going to change. The “lost pallet of sealed games” hypothetical is pure fallacy.

OG sealed collector here who was too cool for NA. Sealed first, condition second. Will always prefer sealed over anything else. However, since the jump happened in sealed prices, I’ve turned my attention to CIB for the big money titles I don’t have and look for first prints 100% complete that way. Only a few games left on that list. One day I’ll have a circle seal 100% CIB of Paperboy for NES, but even that is probably gonna push close to $500 as time goes on.

Upon closer look, it appears they are counting the “slip sleeve” as a GSI and gave it a 9.0, explaining the dent. And the plastic box inside that slip sleeve, which isn’t able to be pulled out because a true sealed version has stickers to prevent that, is 9.8.

Wata is new to grading PC games. With that said, every sealed first print Witcher I’ve seen and also have include clear circle stickers on the top and bottom to keep the slip cover on. I’d like to present evidence that this game is falsely graded as sealed and also question it’s number grade of “9.8” looking at that giant fucking dent in the top right corner of said evidence.

9 hours ago, CIB_Wholesale said:

bro i have 0 offers of all time since i ever got it

 

 

Consign it to heritage

Sealed Resident Evil long box for PS1- the dreamer collection- sold in 2021 for $265,000

that same exact game (dreamer collection) just sold last night for $38,400.

YIKES!