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16 hours ago, Enternal said:
Excellent video find, and yes, it certainly looks like the PlayPhone version.
On the SamSho image, do you have that copy, or is it just a picture that you found? Very good information, and I'll update the above checklist.
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16 hours ago, Enternal said:
This is to be taken with a grain of salt, but I thought there was another 2/pack with Centipede. But I could be mixing it up with the Asteroids one.
There is a chance that I took a picture because a few years ago I sent a message to John Hancock on Atari Age asking him if he had seen them before and he hadn't.
I remember seeing several Atari/arcade/ random classic game two in one discs, and yes, Centipede was one of them. I can't remember if I ever purchased a copy, but yes, there was a PlayPhone Game Pack that included Centipede.
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On 2/4/2024 at 6:26 PM, Enternal said:
Wow thanks for creating this and linking it to me. Glad I jogged your memory. I don't remember seeing these back in the day. But while I'm a box from someone that would buy storage units I came across a stack of 3+4 of these. I would have normally skipped over them had I not seen King of Fighters which I purchased. Unfortunately I did not see Samurai Showdown or Metal Slug or I would have purchased those as well.
It's my pleasure, and out of curiosity do remember what the other titles were that you saw? It's possible that you saw one that I don't have on the list above this post.
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18 minutes ago, spacepup said:
Thank you for sharing about these! I was not previously familiar. But I work with some preservation groups for obscure content, and we've been working on preserving mobile game content as well as items like discs for PalmOS and PocketPC, etc.
If you come across any of these or find any for sale, I would very much be interested in them. I'll keep an eye out but they definitely seem obscure and niche.
It's my pleasure, and I give all credit to the original guy for posting about the King of Fighters copy and jogging my memory.
As it happens, I am involved with the ReDump preservationists, though mostly for the ongoing CDi efforts. I can send the PlayPhone Game Pack disc in for preservation.
And yes, these are indeed obscure nowadays but 20 years ago, and that really makes me feel unreasonably old, these were everywhere. They were in stores and advertised on network TV. There's probably piles of unsold stock in some storage unit or warehouse.
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For reference, below are pictures of the Game Packs in the later card format. All of them existed in the original white DVD case and disc format, but good luck finding any of these nowadays.
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On 1/8/2024 at 5:04 PM, Enternal said:
I have a sealed king of fighters cell phone game that I can barely even find any information on (I think 2 articles, never seen on eBay) see attached. I found this in a barn from someone that would buy storage units.
A Samurai Showdown 3DO game that I think is a review copy. Doesn't look anything like the retail release and I can't find anything that looks like it. (In storage so don't have pictures)
A Last Day Gears of War Cog Tag, these were randomly spread to different locations, random areas, some geo caching spots, and to press.
They have different serial numbers and I believe unlocked information for everyone to see on the gears of war 2 website.
Ive only see 3 in the last 10 years sell, 130, 500, and 2 days ago one of the press ones sold for 150.
Here is one of the press ones.
... memory unlocked, and I it made me go back and look through my old stuff!
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Two interesting articles on the later activities of PlayPhone, and how many years after the 2003 cell phone games there were online social media games:
https://venturebeat.com/games/playphone-enables-instant-multiplayer-across-android-and-ios-devices/
... those Metal Slug mobile titles look EXACTLY like the ones from 2003/2004 or so, and it wouldn't surprise me if they were using them for many years afterwards with some online features grafted on.
The cards and even the physical Game Packs were extremely common, at least in my area. I also saw quite a few TV commercials for PlayPhone ringtones and games. These commercials are still on YouTube in various commercial compilations from the time.
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For collection checklist purposes, the following were released in physical disc Game Packs:
Scooby Doo
Tetris
Breakout/Asteroids
King of Fighters
Metal Slug
Samurai Shodown: Warrior's Rage
Rubik's Cube
Centipede and?
... and quite a few more titles. I'll keep updating and refining the list as I can find clearer information and ideally the big stack of these Game Packs. That list is incomplete for the time being and probably forever as it's unlikely that anyone will ever be able to complete the PlayPhone Game Packs collection.
Not a lot of people seem to realize that the Nokia N-Gage wasn't the only product line of cell phone game physical copies.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20030525164439/http://www.play-phone.com/
... the website on the Archive gives a lot of interesting information on these PlayPhone Game Packs. I can confirm that the SNK, Scooby Doo, and at least a few arcade disc and DVD case retail versions were indeed released. I had a stack of them when my phone was an N-Gage and there were several that I never purchased. Unsold copies were still on the shelves for many years afterwards.
Not to knock the OP too hard, but I'm surprised that he didn't immediately go to the Archived webpage for the King of Fighters title:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030621121148/http://www.play-phone.com/company/press.php?news=5865282
And for easier reference a link about the Game Packs:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030621120857/http://www.play-phone.com/company/press.php?news=3258490
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This is a spinoff from the other thread where these were mentioned. I remember seeing a lot of these in the mid-2000's on the N-Gage shelf at EB Games. I thought I still had a bunch but could only find this one. I know that I saw at least a dozen different physical copies of these titles, including the three different SNK releases: King of Fighters, Metal Slug, and SamSho. They seem to be the same Java ports from across many platforms, as are the various arcade compilations.
I do remember that thinking it odd that my local store, the EB Games inside the Lakeforest Mall (R.I.P.) had both new and used PlayPhone cases. I wasn't sure how a used copy would work. They certainly were cheap, at just a few Dollars each and used ones for 0.99.
There were also cards for these same titles. It wouldn't surprise me if the disc versions were just the first year or so and that they switched to cards to cut costs. The cards are surely no longer active, but are readily available on ebay and also turn up on legacy websites like Best Buy and Amazon pages:
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It's not my listing, but this just showed up in my alerts:
... somebody trying to bring back the old NintendoAge effect?
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2 hours ago, final fight cd said:
How do you define a “rare” 360 game? Like, a game that doesn’t have 30 copies on eBay?
Pretty much, but less than 10 copies at any one time. For the likes of F12013 and FIFA 19, even zero copies.
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Just to check, does an NTSC Combat Wings actually exist? It seems mythical.
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On 8/30/2023 at 1:09 AM, DefaultGen said:
I know nothing about Xbox 360 but bought a copy of Autobahn Polizei once because it seemed cool and uncommon. Like most of the games discussed, there’s still a bunch available or sold, but it seems maybe in the same range?
I am much better versed in Xbox and I tend to say there are no truly rare regular black label Xbox games, which could be the same case for 360 beyond NBA Elite 11
I actually did exactly the same thing! I've only ever seen Autobahn Polizei once and because it was so unusual to see a 360 game that I didn't know about I got it. Now, it could just be a regional rarity and nobody bought it in my area.
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On 8/28/2023 at 6:57 PM, The Count said:
I couldn't say what is truly hard to find, but Darkest of Days and Civil War: Secret Missions are not uncommon.
Asterix seems to be hard to find, however.
Asterix is one that I've never seen in the wild, but I recall reading somewhere that it was primarily a Canadian NTSC 360 exclusive, one of the few such ones. It doesn't seem to have very many copies online at any one time.
Secret Missions is one that I've only ever seen once in the wild, and didn't realize existed for years. It's the sequel to the much more common A Nation Divided, which probably threw me off.
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On 8/29/2023 at 5:36 PM, Gulag Joe said:
It was delisted and then I think it sold for $600. Or maybe $400
Ah, that makes much more sense than two copies both going for ridiculous prices.
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I've been a 360 collector for a while and have known about the NTSC versions of FIFA 19 and F1 2013 being the rarest normal retail releases but was still shocked at the recent auction as was mentioned over in the Sealed and Graded section. Surely all the 360 collectors would have copies by now??
It made me look at eBay, and unless I missed them there no NTSC copies of either one available. I guess these really are the two rarest but what would be the other rarest conventional US/NTSC releases? Asterix, Darkest of Days, Civil War Secret Missions? Does Combat Wings NTSC even really exist? I'm very interested in what everyone else would say based on what they've seen in the wild.
To note, I'm not asking about intentionally limited collectors editions and the like, just normal releases. I can't help but think a lot may have flown under the radar.
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Whoah!! I knew that this one and both editions of FIFA 19 were the rarest non limited edition retail releases but did this sale actually happen, or was it re-listed?
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9 minutes ago, nrslam said:
I'm amazed that any CD-i title could command this sort of price. Uber-rare, to be sure, but it's an infotainment title for a generally unloved system. The demand side of the supply vs demand equation just doesn't seem to be there, or are are there more CD-i collectors that I thought?
I was wondering the same thing, about whether or not any of the other handful of really hardcore CD-i collectors would be willing to pay the big bucks for this copy, assuming that they don't already have one. I know that if I didn't have a copy that I'd be very tempted to pay around a grand, because it's one of those titles that goes years in between appearances.
The seller originally had it priced at $999, but looking now the price has been raised to $2,400. It probably won't sell at the higher amount, but if it did it would set a new price record for a single CD-i title. Even Zelda Adventure and Bell Atlantic Info-Active haven't sold that high.
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... for once, a genuine rarity that actually justifies such a price! I have NEVER seen a copy of it prior to now. I had to get mine directly from another collector that got it back in the '90s, and to my knowledge only one other guy has a copy. So with only three copies known, this is as rare as it gets for US CD-i retail titles. Even more Web-i discs are known. The one publicly available US release with fewer known copies is Bell Atlantic Info-Active.
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... for once, a genuine rarity that actually justifies such a price! I have NEVER seen a copy of it prior to now. I had to get mine directly from another collector that got it back in the '90s, and to my knowledge only one other guy has a copy. So with only three copies known, this is as rare as it gets for US CD-i retail titles. Even more Web-i discs are known. The one publicly available US release with fewer known copies is Bell Atlantic Info-Active.
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10 minutes ago, Nugfish said:
just based off of current fabric price, I would be surprised if you couldnt get at least $25/yard. Based off of no knowledge at all about this, I would have guessed $40ish/yd
That's much more knowledgeable than me!:)
I can't remember if the store had any other fabrics that I got, but I sorta recall a Zelda and a Donkey Kong fabric. I'll have to check to see if I can find it.
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1 minute ago, darkchylde28 said:
Well, based on your description on Atari Age, it sounds like you've got roughly 4 yards of material. Based on this auction, someone has approximately 1 yard of similar material and is asking $25 for it. With that as a rough standard to measure against, I'd say $100 or less, and leaning toward less, although I believe it should be worth decently more than the low end of that scale.
This is the sort of hard evidence that I was hoping for!:)
Thank you very much for the link!:)
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https://forums.atariage.com/topic/348910-vintage-mario-fabric/
...I have this really long length of fabric from the 90s, the kind used to make drapes and pillow covers and such. I have no idea what it's worth, so I figure it couldn't hurt to ask here.
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I'm the pioneer of the CD-i longbox path:
... and what made me do it was the realization that nobody else had done so. I guess everyone else had just assumed that it had been done long ago when it hadn't, and even still other parts of the CD-i library still haven't been documented.