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I'm curious to see if "Ironing" out a box actually works.

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12 hours ago, austin532 said:

I'm curious to see if "Ironing" out a box actually works.

They call it pressing in the comic book scene.  And some comic book collectors have already shown before / after photos of pressing with pretty amazing results.

Bottom line, if a crease is whitened already (color cracked) on the box or manual, pressing will look better but not fix issue.  If the bend is very slight without the color break (think more of a waviness or a bowing rather than a full-fledged crease) then the issue can be remedied 100% by someone who knows what they are doing.  To the point you would never know the damage was there even if you looked at that area with magnification. 

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14 hours ago, austin532 said:

I'm curious to see if "Ironing" out a box actually works.

 

1 hour ago, jonebone said:

They call it pressing in the comic book scene.  And some comic book collectors have already shown before / after photos of pressing with pretty amazing results.

Bottom line, if a crease is whitened already (color cracked) on the box or manual, pressing will look better but not fix issue.  If the bend is very slight without the color break (think more of a waviness or a bowing rather than a full-fledged crease) then the issue can be remedied 100% by someone who knows what they are doing.  To the point you would never know the damage was there even if you looked at that area with magnification. 

It really does work if the box is minimally damaged and the color is intact, as @jonebone pointed out above. Here is a video that does a decent job of explaining the process. I am going to try this some time in May and will post my results. I have enough low value game boxes that I can get lots of practice.

 

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I get how it works but aren't you basicly adding moisture to the box? Meaning it's now moisture damaged.

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15 minutes ago, austin532 said:

I get how it works but aren't you basicly adding moisture to the box? Meaning it's now moisture damaged.

No, you only use the heat, no steam. Some people actually recommend putting a paper towel or something between the iron and the box so it can pull moisture out.

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22 minutes ago, austin532 said:

I get how it works but aren't you basicly adding moisture to the box? Meaning it's now moisture damaged.

Not quite.  Keep in mind that there is always moisture in the air.  Everything that exists, somehow, has to adjust to normal fluctuations in temperature and humidity if it's going to stay intact for long periods of time.  Of course, everything is aging and deteriorating.  The key is to control the amount of humidity and pressure being applied to the paper in such a way that it doesn't even do microscopic damage but kind of reverses the damage back to it's normal, expected state.

What these techniques do is control the humidity and heat up to a point where the paper is more pliable, and then hard pressure can do the rest.  I've read up extensively on this and I am planning on getting a book press for my own repairs, and I need to see if I can find a machine shop that can create some special sized, steel blocks for proper weight and spacing.

When you want to get real technical and careful on the most damaged but sensitive items, you have to have the right water too.  You'd think that distilled water would be what you'd want to use and, in some cases it is.  However, distilled water can be problematic and be a bit to harsh, and IIRC, mineral waters that are very pure, but not 100% like distilled often work best.  I think the idea is that the distilled water isn't natural to the paper making process so it's a bit harsh on the paper. Having a little bit of controlled "contaminants" that might be natural to the paper making processes keeps it intact and bonded.

Archivist have been treating and repairing paper and books for centuries and their techniques have become quite sophisticated.  All we are really adding to the equation is handling cardboard and that is mostly the same thing but with a different glue agent to hold the fibers together a bit better for the thicker paper. But, much of what applies to paper applies to cardboard and archivist have already been working for years to straighten, flatten and stabilize this stuff.

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9 minutes ago, DoctorEncore said:

No, you only use the heat, no steam. Some people actually recommend putting a paper towel or something between the iron and the box so it can pull moisture out.

You should use steam.  Ironing with an iron could possibly cause problems, but once you get into pressing paper, the water helps keep the paper/cardboard intact and prevents it from getting brittle.  Heating up paper actually deteriorates it.  I have no clue if you can see that damage under a microscope but it dries out the fibers of the wood and, like I mentioned earlier, there is humidity in the air. Air that is normal to most indoor climates has just the right of water in the air to keep paper from rippling, or to little to keep it from getting brittle to rapidly.

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P.O.W. Prisoners of War (Oval Seal)

Box: NES-EW USA

Cart: NES-EW-USA

Manual: NES-EW-USA

Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-VR-USA

Smooth Black Dust Cover

 

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11 minutes ago, Trifecta said:

P.O.W. Prisoners of War (Oval Seal)

Box: NES-EW USA

Cart: NES-EW-USA

Manual: NES-EW-USA

Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-VR-USA

Textured Black Dust Cover

 

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Nice! Thanks for sharing. It's tough to find those SNK boxes in good condition.

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1 hour ago, DoctorEncore said:

Nice! Thanks for sharing. It's tough to find those SNK boxes in good condition.

You're very welcome. I have at least one more to contribute very soon.

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Thanks for the contribution! Glad to see other people contributing here besides @DoctorEncore and myself.🙂 You say the sleeve is textured but the game came out in 1989 so the sleeve should be smooth.

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49 minutes ago, Trifecta said:

It looks textured to me. What does it look like to you?

 

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For some reason someone started calling that pattern smooth a while ago, so that's what we've been calling it. It is technically smoother than the other main type which is kind of rough, or as I prefer to call it, crosshatched. As @austin532 mentioned, the "rough" sleeves came later (around 1991, I believe).

I actually agree with you and would call these older sleeves textured, but the convention was put into place well before I became a big contributor.

UPDATE: Added a textured/crosshatched sleeve pic.

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Now that I'm actually paying attention, it's almost like they took a mold from leather for the "smooth" type.  It's a rather random pattern.  I wonder how they made that and if it was for a counterfeiting measure, which is a weird detail to care about.

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19 minutes ago, RH said:

Now that I'm actually paying attention, it's almost like they took a mold from leather for the "smooth" type.  It's a rather random pattern.  I wonder how they made that and if it was for a counterfeiting measure, which is a weird detail to care about.

Agreed. The leathery texture is actually even more pronounced on late ljn/Acclaim releases 

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Very interesting.  I think one is a mold from leather or pleather, and the other is from cloth.

After further thought, I think this could be a counterfeiting measure, like I suggested.  But, the point isn't to prevent bootleg cases from showing up, but once kids had handled these cases again and again, they may notice smooth plastic and think it's "fake", and shun it.  It's a subtle detail but it works.  That, or maybe they just wanted it to seem a bit less sterile than truly smooth plastic. Who knows.

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Right, smooth was set as the name for cases from 85-91, textured is for cases from 91-94, and rough is for late release Acclaim/LJN/Virgin games. The smooth ones have a cracked design to them, the textured ones have more of a crosshatch pattern, and the rough ones have a very rough feel to them.

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Gremlins 2 The New Batch (Oval Seal)

Box: NES-2Z USA

Cart: NES-2Z-USA

Manual: NES-2Z-USA 

Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-USA

Warning Leaflet: NES-RPTV-USA

Registration Card: SUN-NES-US

Smooth Black Dust Cover

There was some damage to the plastic, but the top of the box had its plastic completely intact.

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15 minutes ago, Trifecta said:

Gremlins 2 The New Batch Oval Seal

Box: NES-2Z USA

Cart: NES-2Z-USA

Manual: NES-2Z-USA 

 

 

Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-USA

Warning Leaflet: NES-RPTV-USA

Registration Card: SUN-NES-US

Smooth Black Dust Cover

There was some damage to the plastic, but the top of the box had its plastic completely intact.

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Nice! That game is ridiculously hard to find in good shape, much less sealed.

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Indeed, it's one that rarely shows up sealed and in good condition. Congrats.

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On 3/27/2020 at 4:54 AM, austin532 said:

Indeed, it's one that rarely shows up sealed and in good condition. Congrats.

Thank you. I plan to do some more soon.

Is the M.C. Kids unboxing still on target for April?

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Most likely. I don't have a set in stone date as to when I do unboxings but I'm hoping to unbox M.C. Kids soon and then Adventures in the Magic Kingdom and Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout sometime in June/July. I still want to unbox Star Wars as well but I feel like my lack of knowledge of that universe wouldn't do the video any justice. I know how the Star Wars fanboys tend to get.😛

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Code Name: Viper (Oval Seal)

Box: NES-VP USA

Cart: NES-VP-USA

Manual: NES-VP-USA

Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-CC-USA

Poster: CAP-NES-US-2

Captain Commando Refund Certificate: CAP-NES-US-1

Registration Card: CAP-NES-US-1

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1 hour ago, DoctorEncore said:

NFL (Oval Seal)

Box: NES-FN-USA (90804)
Cart: NES-FN-USA
Manual: NES-FN-USA
Playbook Poster: LJN-FN-US
Ljn Advert: LJN-NES-US
Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-MW-USA
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Interesting, looks like the cart is discolored or is that just the lighting? Looks like the box also got water damage.

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