Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) I just picked up what looks to be a 5 screw gotcha. Label looks rough and like it was poorly glued on. At work so I haven’t opened it up yet, but are there any other indicators? Is the board different? Label different? Edited to add more crusty label pics. Plastic is warped at the top seam and side. Edited February 27, 2021 by Falleninglass Added board pics/ closer label pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,096 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I don’t see a 5 screw version on bootgod, price charting does track sales for it though but it doesn’t actually have the listings. Did you search on eBay for one? I can’t speak to if the board is different but the label being glued on is really suspicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 It's obvious they were trying to make a fake one, I think there are only a single digit quantity in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: It's obvious they were trying to make a fake one, I think there are only a single digit quantity in existence. I’m thinking so, but hoping not. It wasnt listed or sold like it was. $100 lot with three games, a nes, and some controllers. Feels like too much work for a sale, but it’s definitely possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 i would imagine if someone was trying to fake one, they would try to fake one to a collector who would want it in good shape because who else other than a collector would want it? I think there are some more than 'single digits' but a date code always helps. Take a pic of the PCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: i would imagine if someone was trying to fake one, they would try to fake one to a collector who would want it in good shape because who else other than a collector would want it? I think there are some more than 'single digits' but a date code always helps. Take a pic of the PCB That’s my hope too. I’ll post picks of the board when I get home tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: i would imagine if someone was trying to fake one, they would try to fake one to a collector who would want it in good shape because who else other than a collector would want it? I think there are some more than 'single digits' but a date code always helps. Take a pic of the PCB It looks like the glue got everywhere and they tried to clean up up and flatten out the label a bit better but it just got out of control so they abandoned it. They couldn't sell it on its own so they threw it into a lot with other games to get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: It looks like the glue got everywhere and they tried to clean up up and flatten out the label a bit better but it just got out of control so they abandoned it. They couldn't sell it on its own so they threw it into a lot with other games to get rid of it. Well the date could would help significantly. 5 Screw Gotcha is the last 'big game' I would want but I refuse to pay a lot for a game I wouldnt ever play haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, guitarzombie said: Well the date could would help significantly. 5 Screw Gotcha is the last 'big game' I would want but I refuse to pay a lot for a game I wouldnt ever play haha. Updated board pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Falleninglass said: Updated board pics Thanks for the update. Looks like @Code Monkey called it. The 5 screw Gotchas ive seen should have the date code on the PRG chip as 8748. This one is 8819. The rare 5 screw / 3 screw variants should all be late 87, Theres a small possibility maybe it was a refurb but I would suspect this isn't legit. Sorry! *EDIT* I also just now noticed after posting this, I can see the left side of the label is lifting. Didn't notice it before. Def looks like a label transplant now, just VERY poor. Edited February 25, 2021 by guitarzombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 What does the back look like? You can usually tell the year from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Code Monkey said: What does the back look like? You can usually tell the year from there. Back of the cartridge or board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Falleninglass said: Back of the cartridge or board? cartridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: cartridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 15 hours ago, Code Monkey said: What does the back look like? You can usually tell the year from there. It was a little scratched up, but I didn’t see and stamped/ indented numbers in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Falleninglass said: Orient your camera before taking photos. Interesting, 5 screw no REV-A back shell with security screws. This has to be refurbished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Code Monkey said: Orient your camera before taking photos. Interesting, 5 screw no REV-A back shell with security screws. This has to be refurbished. Ignore this, I got confused thinking this was the R.C. Pro-Am thread. This is just fake, nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) On 2/24/2021 at 10:26 PM, guitarzombie said: Thanks for the update. Looks like @Code Monkey called it. The 5 screw Gotchas ive seen should have the date code on the PRG chip as 8748. This one is 8819. The rare 5 screw / 3 screw variants should all be late 87, Theres a small possibility maybe it was a refurb but I would suspect this isn't legit. Sorry! *EDIT* I also just now noticed after posting this, I can see the left side of the label is lifting. Didn't notice it before. Def looks like a label transplant now, just VERY poor. This one looks like it literally sold today on ebay. Has 8813? How is the date code read? Is this one legit in your opinion? ***Edit*** I was looking at the wrong chip. The one from ebay looks legit. Date code is 8746 not 8813. Edited February 28, 2021 by Falleninglass Wrong info provided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Falleninglass said: Has 8813? How is the date code read? 13th week of 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dr. Morbis said: 13th week of 1988. Thanks Dr. Morbis! So the one I have is 19th week of 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Something seems a bit fishy here now. They switched from 3 screw to 7 screw in mid 87. So the rarest games that were 5 screw are very late 87. If RC Pro Am counts as a real variant and not a refurb (do all those date codes match?) then that would be the latest with VERY early 88. So that late into 88, I would find that highly suspect personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: If RC Pro Am counts as a real variant and not a refurb (do all those date codes match?) then that would be the latest with VERY early 88. So that late into 88, I would find that highly suspect personally. Pro AM does not count 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywoodcaddy | 72 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I have a gotcha 5 screw...I'm sure I can open her up if it'll help you guys out any...but yeah....i agree...that one looks like someone tried and failed to replicate a real 5 screw...then tossed it in a lot to just get rid of it...sorry bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falleninglass | 0 Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 41 minutes ago, Hollywoodcaddy said: I have a gotcha 5 screw...I'm sure I can open her up if it'll help you guys out any...but yeah....i agree...that one looks like someone tried and failed to replicate a real 5 screw...then tossed it in a lot to just get rid of it...sorry bud Appreciate the help in any way. I didn’t buy it as legit, so luckily not financially invested. Would definitely be bummed if its not, but wanna do my due diligence. Found an old list from NA of the known copies. Just sent a message to Ferris and Ninja. If anyone knows if any of the others came over let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Josh Hamblin found one a week ago. I'm not sure if this was originally Laketown's but I get the impression it's a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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