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10 hours ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

Gumshoe is done.聽

I remember when Pat the NES Punk reviewed all the black box games, he went on about how difficult that game is and genuinely asked the audience if anyone had actually beat that game. He said send video if you do. Is it that hard? I vaguely remember him saying you have to shoot under your characters feet to make him take a single step. Is that right?

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1 minute ago, NESfiend said:

I remember when Pat the NES Punk reviewed all the black box games, he went on about how difficult that game is and genuinely asked the audience if anyone had actually beat that game. He said send video if you do. Is it that hard? I vaguely remember him saying you have to shoot under your characters feet to make him take a single step. Is that right?

No, he moves on his own. You have to shoot him to jump though. It's not impossible, but it is a really tough game.

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Just finished聽day dreamin' Davey. Terrible game as expected. Awful hit detection, weird graphics, some pretty brutal bosses, and a frustrating password/ continue system. Blah. Taking a break to play some good games for a bit.聽

Next up is probably destiny of an emperor and lolo 3 tandem

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Oh and FWIW I played Gumshoe for about 30 minutes considering that I might try to beat it for this contest and can confirm either I'm terrible at light gun games, it's insanely difficult, or both. I never beat the first stage. I watched some video of the final stage and it is REALLY intense. Good on you for beating it @Bearcat-Doug, especially so quickly. Your light gun skills are on point it seems.

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Gumshoe is tough, but since you have infinite continues it's manageable. I don't know how many hours I put into it last year, but probably only about 10-12, I'm guessing -- yeah, I just looked at my notes and it was just over聽10 hours over the course of 3-4 weeks.

The main factor for me was physical fatigue in my hands and trigger finger -- the game just聽wore me out聽after a while --聽plus my ability to gradually get聽a better sense of the right strategy for the last level.

The last boss is pretty unforgiving, though, and I still don't have a 100% handle on what triggers the bonus areas (which frankly are sometimes better avoided).

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1 minute ago, bronzeshield said:

Gumshoe is tough, but since you have infinite continues it's manageable. I don't know how many hours I put into it last year, but probably only about 10-12, I'm guessing -- yeah, I just looked at my notes and it was just over聽10 hours over the course of 3-4 weeks.

Infinite continues? I know you can spam the trigger to continue on the level you just died on, but assumed that was outside of our rules. Is that "code" listed in the manual or something?

I never had to bother with that since I never got past the first stage, but when I stopped trying part of the reason was that there were only 2 lives and no continue without using that method, which I assumed was a code.

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2 minutes ago, Khromak said:

Infinite continues? I know you can spam the trigger to continue on the level you just died on, but assumed that was outside of our rules. Is that "code" listed in the manual or something?

I never had to bother with that since I never got past the first stage, but when I stopped trying part of the reason was that there were only 2 lives and no continue without using that method, which I assumed was a code.

Manual tells you how to continue, so it's legal.

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25 minutes ago, Khromak said:

Infinite continues? I know you can spam the trigger to continue on the level you just died on

The manual does mention how to continue (as WashYourFace notes), and I'd read the "spam the trigger" thing elsewhere and it seems to be widely believed. But neither of those really gets it quite聽right: you have to shoot the words GAME OVER (as i recall) to continue, so some aim is required (and spamming the fire button is of no help).

Even聽if it weren't in the manual, I'd still question whether it constitutes a code, since shooting the only significant onscreen object in a game with one-button input is a pretty obvious course of action. 馃檪

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I really shouldn't have played this again, for the third time in my life, but Evert & Lendl: Top Players Tennis is completed. I did the Japanese version this time, which doesn't have the announcer the English version does. The ending is as short and disappointing as always, though! It even mentions Cosmic Epsilon too.

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  • scaryice changed the title to NES Completions thread 2021 - 552/677

We passed the 50% mark for bonus points this weekend (nice). Also passed 550, three days ahead of the best ever pace in 2015. Keep it up!

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8 hours ago, Khromak said:

Oh and FWIW I played Gumshoe for about 30 minutes considering that I might try to beat it for this contest and can confirm either I'm terrible at light gun games, it's insanely difficult, or both. I never beat the first stage. I watched some video of the final stage and it is REALLY intense. Good on you for beating it @Bearcat-Doug, especially so quickly. Your light gun skills are on point it seems.

Having a smaller CRT (mine is 14") to play on seems to help since you can sit close and cover the entire area of the screen without having to move very much which helps your reaction time and accuracy. I was able to get a聽sealed Zapper a few years ago on ebay for $30, so it's really聽tight and responsive. Outside of the time I played Duck Hunt to Round 0, I haven't used it whole lot.

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7 hours ago, bronzeshield said:

The manual does mention how to continue (as WashYourFace notes), and I'd read the "spam the trigger" thing elsewhere and it seems to be widely believed. But neither of those really gets it quite聽right: you have to shoot the words GAME OVER (as i recall) to continue, so some aim is required (and spamming the fire button is of no help).

Even聽if it weren't in the manual, I'd still question whether it constitutes a code, since shooting the only significant onscreen object in a game with one-button input is a pretty obvious course of action. 馃檪

Here's a link to a scan of the manual with the instructions on how to continue on page 9.

https://vimm.net/manual/?p=details&id=742

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Anybody got any tips on Defenders of Dynatron city? Specifically the cola factory level. I can't seem to make it past the second set of robots, the hammer guys. I can make it there with four heroes but I keep getting killed聽over and over. I'm not sure what do there. This spot is tough and it's frustrating to spend a half an hour to get there each time and then die in a minute. If there was a game genie code for level select I could聽at least practice that spot without wasting so much time.聽

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9 hours ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

Here's a link to a scan of the manual with the instructions on how to continue on page 9.

https://vimm.net/manual/?p=details&id=742

Right, I've consulted that before, but the language they use --聽"Fire the Zapper while the Game Over screen is displayed to restart the game on the last phase attempted" --聽doesn't really do a good job of spelling out exactly what you need to do (which contributed to the collective misunderstanding about needing to shoot rapidly, etc.).

As I recall, if it doesn't register your shot in the right place within a certain amount of time, you're back to square one.

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46 minutes ago, bronzeshield said:

Right, I've consulted that before, but the language they use --聽"Fire the Zapper while the Game Over screen is displayed to restart the game on the last phase attempted" --聽doesn't really do a good job of spelling out exactly what you need to do (which contributed to the collective misunderstanding about needing to shoot rapidly, etc.).

As I recall, if it doesn't register your shot in the right place within a certain amount of time, you're back to square one.

I'm not 100% sure either. I managed to beat it on my last life so I didn't have to use it.

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