Blitus | 24 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, DoctorEncore said: Best Buy? No, Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Jockey | 20 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) SPOILERS: Got it this morning at Fred Meyer. Put on Mario 64 and have been playing for half an hour or so. First thoughts: Mario seems to slide a bit or turn a bit when doing tight 180s. Maybe cause it's been awhile since I played the 64 version but it's a bit weird to me. Maybe a bad joystick on my end but my pro controller has been good to me. Nice sharp graphics, but still retaining much of the N64 charm. I think it is better than the OoT and MM remake on 3DS l think the intro scenes seem a tiny bit sped up as well. Doing the triple jump in the opening area before entering the castle seems to be much higher than I remember. Doing it in stages seems normal though No more, SO LONG GAY BOWSER. That's been changed to Bye Bye. Overall I like it and I think it's pretty good overall considering I haven't touched Sunshine or Galaxy yet. I'd give it a 9.5 for the most part so far. Edited September 18, 2020 by Space Jockey Misspell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bogomil | 815 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Played through the first few stars in each game. The games all look pretty damn good with Sunshine getting the biggest quality upgrade in terms of graphics... It looks awesome. Galaxy looks a little sharper for sure and 64 has that extra polygon look from the boosted graphics. A few graphical anomalies/glitches in 64/sunshine but nothing major. 64 definitely seems to suffer performance wise. Frame rate is better but somehow the game feels more sluggish than the original and there's likely a touch of input delay. It definitely has that emulator feel to it but overall pretty much what you'd expect I guess. It doesn't handle as well as on 64. On a not so related note... EB Games is a joke. 4 people working in there this morning. One guy on cash and the others doing absolutely nothing since the store was at capacity with the line. The guy on cash was trying to upsell everyone on pre-orders and warranty coupled with edge membership info. Pretty much threatening with the warranty because "it's an ultra limited game only being made until March". Took me about 40 minutes to get out of there and I was 6th in line. They're gonna be a last resort from now on out. Also, legitimately 1/3 of the store is Pop figures now lol... Haven't been in one for a while. Terrible experience. I got deja vu when he told me Pikmin 3 and 3d world were up for pre order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bogomil | 815 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) The colors, menus/text, and HUD all look super sharp now. Edited September 18, 2020 by Andy_Bogomil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,808 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I wonder how many people are going to hold on to their copy/copies until this is discontinued and then jack-up the price on ebay and amazon. I'm guessing the answer is far far too many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,898 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Has anyone played this without downloading the 1.0.1 day-one patch? I'm planning on plugging this one and skipping it just to see what I find. I'm sure it' bug fixes, but who knows. Also, what's on the podium in the back? Does it more clearly read '"L" is real'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,771 Administrator · Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 It's been confirmed that Backwards Long Jump doesn't work on Mario 64 on Switch. This means that (for now, maybe forever) Mario 64 on Switch will be completely different from the original with regard to speedrunning and skips in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bogomil | 815 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Haha I don't know what is with Mario's character in 64... When you're zoomed out his face takes on a bizarre shape depending on how he is moving. I saw it happen a number of times but captured here on my phone pretty good. Really strange. Almost like Minecraft Mario... His nose gets tiny. https://youtu.be/dfdJZMF9hJA Edited September 18, 2020 by Andy_Bogomil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,931 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I've just scratched the surface of all three a bit, I'd do more but I don't want burn out, and i'd like to focus on Sunshine primarily first anyway. I'm more familiar with the other two though having been re-doing casually Mario64 on the PC vanilla original conversion, and then I got that Wii early this year which had Galaxy that I now and again pick at. Mario 64 I find controls correctly and comfortably, maybe not N64 controller comfortable, because well like it or not, even those who like kind of reviled it for the slippery joystick issues. Being used to using a 360 controller the transition to pro controller was seamless and I could do the better performing play I get off the PC port on the Switch that I'd find a bit harder with the slippery 64 stick. Visually it's clean, clear, crisp with the refinished off art assets getting them tight and clean on the 2D surfaces from the info stuffs to the wall art. Sunshine, I wish I could get into it, seems to look, play and sound much the same in general. Visually it's HD now, all the visuals getting the same dust up the n64 did to bump it cleanly up to HD quality and not look bad scaling it up. The controls work quite well and if anything it's right there on par play wise, even with the random tight quarters camera hang ups people get annoyed with. Galaxy now that one I've played it recently on Wii, I've done it on Dolphin before too using a game pad or the USB sensor bar to use wii parts. It's clean, clear, beautiful like Dolphin made it some years ago once the bugs were worked out by that team. They did a solid service combo emulating and recoding that one so it runs at peak quality. Again using the pro controller I found the way about using the remotes pointer that's gone pretty simple, took a moment to get used to it having to tap R to get gyro going but that's it and it's easy without harm to physical play. Because, that's all it is, they now assigned other waggle crap to buttons like Y does the spin/spin to launch on star stuff and it makes it if anythign easier, faster, and more intuitive to play as I took down that first piranha petey boss very much faster than using waggle style. My only gripe outside that, it's the games, isn't beyond what I wrote above so far. I hate you can't take that lovely sound track and get it off there. Yeah I know Nintendo won't allow MP3s, but it would be sweet to get it as a usable digital format off the system. I recently got the Mario64 CD locally by luck, MP3'd that for the phone and listen to it a bit here and there and the other two would be awesome too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye | 1,596 Homebrew Team · Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Why can't you invert the camera controls for Sunshine??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,771 Administrator · Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deadeye said: Why can't you invert the camera controls for Sunshine??? No... please no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jicsan | 589 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Deadeye said: Why can't you invert the camera controls for Sunshine??? The one thing I hoped they'd fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye | 1,596 Homebrew Team · Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jicsan said: The one thing I hoped they'd fix. If you hoped they changed the inverted camera controls to normal, they did do that. If you like inverted y axis, like I do, you are out of luck (currently). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jicsan | 589 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Deadeye said: If you hoped they changed the inverted camera controls to normal, they did do that. If you like inverted y axis, like I do, you are out of luck (currently). Oh, well that's better... for me at least, lol. My kids have been playing Mario 64 ever since I got home with it, so I haven't even gotten to try it out yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye | 1,596 Homebrew Team · Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I can understand why you are happy. If you are used to playing one way or the other, normal or inverted, it is super difficult to adjust to the other way. Guess that is why many games give you the choice in options. It is strange for them to flip the control style in all stars without an option though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jicsan | 589 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Deadeye said: It is strange for them to flip the control style in all stars without an option though. They really should put the option in there. Maybe they will patch it soon. My son was playing Zelda one day and asked me to help him with one part. Well he had his camera controls inverted and it broke my brain trying to do what he needed, my muscle memory just wouldn't cooperate. When I gave him the controller back I suggested he change it back to 'normal' because not every game would let him set it 'backwards' and he probably wouldn't want to hone his skills with it that way. He's young and can adapt better than old, set in my ways, me at least. When I revisited Sunshine on the GameCube a few years ago I gave up in frustration, so I feel your pain Deadeye. Edited September 19, 2020 by Jicsan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Inverted aim FTW!!! Makes me feel like a fighter pilot! 8 hours ago, Andy_Bogomil said: Haha I don't know what is with Mario's character in 64... When you're zoomed out his face takes on a bizarre shape depending on how he is moving. I saw it happen a number of times but captured here on my phone pretty good. Really strange. Almost like Minecraft Mario... His nose gets tiny. https://youtu.be/dfdJZMF9hJA This is actually also present in the original game too, and you can make it out although obviously it's not as easy to see with the lower resolution on original hardware. The point of it is to save polygons when you zoom out to see a wider scene, not as many are needed for Mario and more are needed for the overall scene, so they swap out the model. I saw a really interesting video about it once: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Andy_Bogomil said: Haha I don't know what is with Mario's character in 64... When you're zoomed out his face takes on a bizarre shape depending on how he is moving. I saw it happen a number of times but captured here on my phone pretty good. Really strange. Almost like Minecraft Mario... His nose gets tiny. https://youtu.be/dfdJZMF9hJA Yeah that's a standard rendering technique. There are multiple versions of the same model with decreasing detail, called LODs (level of detail), that swap in and out depending on how much of the screen the model takes up. This reduces the number of triangles that need to be drawn. In modern games the LODs are set up to not be noticeable when swapped between, but obviously that isn't the case with Mario 64. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, 0xDEAFC0DE said: Yeah that's a standard rendering technique. There are multiple versions of the same model with decreasing detail, called LODs (level of detail), that swap in and out depending on how much of the screen the model takes up. This reduces the number of triangles that need to be drawn. In modern games the LODs are set up to not be noticeable when swapped between, but obviously that isn't the case with Mario 64. You kidding me? Watching that footage only TWO words come to mind. Seam. Less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 It's finally here! Got the Taiwan version, hot off the presses (also picked up Mario Party)! Taiwan back: They also gave me a free poster! And a bunch of other random Switch promo stuff! Best day of my life??? Too close to call, lol! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp | 383 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 So far loving Galaxy (the only one I never played). Has a unique element to it, but it does take some getting used to the camera and controls lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularGuyGamer | 2,012 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 5 hours ago, OptOut said: It's finally here! Got the Taiwan version, hot off the presses (also picked up Mario Party)! Taiwan back: They also gave me a free poster! And a bunch of other random Switch promo stuff! Best day of my life??? Too close to call, lol! What are the things to the bottom left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, RegularGuyGamer said: What are the things to the bottom left? They're cup holders for fast food style drinks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Been on a bender tonight, mainlining Super Mario 64! 40 stars in, I gotta say it looks fantastic, crisp and clean, loving it! It's definitely faster than the original too, I'm very very familiar with the way Mario 64 plays, and this is like noticeably faster. Not a complaint, it's actually quite refreshing, but yeah it feels like a different game, absolutely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 That clock is accurate, and for those wondering YES, that is A.M. Let's finish the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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