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Political Poll: Does hydroxy-chloroquine work for Covid-19?

Does hydroxy-chloroquine work?  

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  1. 1. Does hydroxy-chloroquine work?

    • Yes, it works
      1
    • No, it does not
      20
    • Who knows - I’m not a scientist
      9


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The link between Covid and hydroxychloroquine lies in an immune system condition called “cytokine storms”. These cyto storms are basically the body’s over-response to things like certain viral infections and can cause organ failure.

Covid appears to be triggering these responses in many people who are getting incredibly ill and needing respirators. Hydroxychloroquine is a rheumatoid arthritis drug that was also approved to treat cyto storms in cancer patients a few years ago.

As far as the data for treating severely ill Covid patients goes, I haven’t looked too deeply. On the surface, it appears mixed, incomplete, or too early to make a definitive answer.

I could be wrong, but that’s how I understand it anyway. And as stated in previous posts, we as Americans are not above simplifying the facts to fit our own political narratives.

Here’s a couple links:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/claryestes/2020/04/16/what-is-the-cytokine-storm-and-why-is-it-so-deadly-for-covid-19-patients/amp/

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8 minutes ago, Richardhead said:

 Imma just wear a fucking mask for a bit. 

 

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As @darkchylde28 mentioned above, knowing what is meant by "works" would help. With that said, I haven't followed the debate, so I voted for the third choice.

I don't think that what the FDA says should be the end all, be all, when it comes to whether something "works" or not, though. An example would be Chinese medicine. While many here would scoff at it, I took a round of it several years back , and it definitely was making improvements for my health, and I know countless other people with similar experiences.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

As @darkchylde28 mentioned above, knowing what is meant by "works" would help. With that said, I haven't followed the debate, so I voted for the third choice.

I don't think that what the FDA says should be the end all, be all, when it comes to whether something "works" or not, though. An example would be Chinese medicine. While many here would scoff at it, I took a round of it several years back , and it definitely was making improvements for my health, and I know countless other people with similar experiences.

 

 

You drank some tiger wine and had some ground up rhinoceros horn in your eggs? 😛

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6 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

As @darkchylde28 mentioned above, knowing what is meant by "works" would help. With that said, I haven't followed the debate, so I voted for the third choice.

I don't think that what the FDA says should be the end all, be all, when it comes to whether something "works" or not, though. An example would be Chinese medicine. While many here would scoff at it, I took a round of it several years back , and it definitely was making improvements for my health, and I know countless other people with similar experiences.

 

 

Chinese medicine? 

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12 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

As @darkchylde28 mentioned above, knowing what is meant by "works" would help. With that said, I haven't followed the debate, so I voted for the third choice.

I don't think that what the FDA says should be the end all, be all, when it comes to whether something "works" or not, though. An example would be Chinese medicine. While many here would scoff at it, I took a round of it several years back , and it definitely was making improvements for my health, and I know countless other people with similar experiences.

 

 

I think you'll need to be more specific here as the way you wrote this it almost sounds like you took some pills written 'Chinese medicine' on them and it  somehow improved your health or something.

 

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4 minutes ago, guillavoie said:

I think you'll need to be more specific here as the way you wrote this it almost sounds like you took some pills written 'Chinese medicine' on them and it  somehow improved your health or something.

 

Nah, I went to a local Chinese medicine doctor here around 2015 or so, and got little individual packets of powder, enough for a week. I went this route as I have psoriasis, and other treatments were met with minimal success at best, and one of my former colleagues always took Chinese medicine and suggested I try it, sure, why not?

Things started clearing up about three or four days in, noticeable improvements, even my father who had been visiting at the time saw it, and he was shocked. After I finished that week's worth of medicine though, I didn't go back for another round, as the taste is horribly bitter. Needless to say, things worsened again when I stopped.

On another note, my psoriasis has been mysterious improving drastically the past few weeks, and I can only think of one change I made. If things continue to improve, I'll share later, definitely not FDA approved method though 😛

But for this reason, I think there's a lot more at play than just whether the FDA has enough evidence to back something as working or not.

We need to remember, everyone's body is different, and will react differently to different things. 

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COVID is less than a year old. It’s gonna take make years to find out what works against it.

Drugs take ages to be proven effective against disease and other ailments.

There is no one on this planet who studies drugs for a living can say, with authority, that it works for COVID.

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9 hours ago, fcgamer said:

On another note, my psoriasis has been mysterious improving drastically the past few weeks, and I can only think of one change I made. If things continue to improve, I'll share later, definitely not FDA approved method though 😛

 

Less stress?

I wish I made a note of the name of the last cancer clinical trial drug that my sister took.   Didn't do shit for the cancer but it cleared her skin right up (and she had psoriasis pretty bad for her entire adult life).

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5 minutes ago, captmorgandrinker said:

Less stress?

I wish I made a note of the name of the last cancer clinical trial drug that my sister took.   Didn't do shit for the cancer but it cleared her skin right up (and she had psoriasis pretty bad for her entire adult life).

Nope, less stress. In my case, I think I've connected some dots, I'll send you a dm later. But as it stands, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but similarly, I think everyone should do his or her own research instead of blindly following experts.

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10 hours ago, fcgamer said:

As @darkchylde28 mentioned above, knowing what is meant by "works" would help. With that said, I haven't followed the debate, so I voted for the third choice.

I don't think that what the FDA says should be the end all, be all, when it comes to whether something "works" or not, though. An example would be Chinese medicine. While many here would scoff at it, I took a round of it several years back , and it definitely was making improvements for my health, and I know countless other people with similar experiences.

 

 

This "issue" with "chinese medicine" (and frankly anything sold as "supplements) is that without a regulating body like the FDA, if it is not just a dietary change, you have no idea what you're actually taking.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, arch_8ngel said:

This "issue" with "chinese medicine" (and frankly anything sold as "supplements) is that without a regulating body like the FDA, if it is not just a dietary change, you have no idea what you're actually taking.

 

 

Don't lecture me about my gingko biloba!

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12 minutes ago, CodysGameRoom said:

Don't lecture me about my gingko biloba!

Maybe your pills of crushed up gingko biloba are plant leaves... maybe they work because they're tainted with speed.

 

Personally, I wouldn't recommend someone consume any non-food item that hasn't been tested by an independent lab in some way to verify the contents.

 

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5 minutes ago, arch_8ngel said:

Maybe your pills of crushed up gingko biloba are plant leaves... maybe they work because they're tainted with speed.

Tainted with?  You mean improved with?

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45 minutes ago, arch_8ngel said:

Maybe your pills of crushed up gingko biloba are plant leaves... maybe they work because they're tainted with speed.

 

Personally, I wouldn't recommend someone consume any non-food item that hasn't been tested by an independent lab in some way to verify the contents.

 

I need to get some of that

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4 minutes ago, MrWunderful said:

I need to get some of that

Well, there was a report a couple years ago about how many "male enhancement" supplements at GNC were actually just illegal viagra, or how many workout supplements were illegal (and uncertain quantities of) anabolic steroids.

It is an issue that should steer any intelligent person away from unregulated supplements.

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Hahaha, and you're the same guys that believe the WHO and the falsehoods it was spouting. 

Do some actual research about Chinese medicine and herbals before denouncing it, just because it isn't FDA approved. Or gtfo.

 

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6 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

Hahaha, and you're the same guys that believe the WHO and the falsehoods it was spouting. 

Do some actual research about Chinese medicine and herbals before denouncing it, just because it isn't FDA approved. Or gtfo.

 

Not everyone has access to labs and test subjects. Or do you mean youtube videos?

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