ExplodedHamster 70 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, RH said: I actually just checked both. The GVN certificate has either expired or they pulled it, and PC is simply shut down. I swear if this is GoCollect's doing... Well GVN clearly is. So either it’s a coincidence and PC happens to be down, or they bought PC, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeevan 3,429 Events Team · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) PriceCharting is temporarily under maintenance. We will be back up as soon as possible hopefully just a hiccup?????? Edited January 30, 2020 by Jeevan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gloves 4,674 Administrator · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 To my knowledge PC hasn't been purchased, and I have no reason to believe that GC went and bought that too since their only real goal was the data from GVN so they could make their own service. Unless they literally went and bought PC and just took both down to eliminate all the competition. I'm not sure they'd do that, but I can't guarantee they wouldn't either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeevan 3,429 Events Team · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 ya, idk, i thought i heard that the person who owned pc said he was gonna focus on pc???? maybe im wrong....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ExplodedHamster 70 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gloves said: To my knowledge PC hasn't been purchased, and I have no reason to believe that GC went and bought that too since their only real goal was the data from GVN so they could make their own service. Unless they literally went and bought PC and just took both down to eliminate all the competition. I'm not sure they'd do that, but I can't guarantee they wouldn't either. There was an attempt to buy PC and PC said no. Whether GVN attempted harder recently, I dunno... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gloves 4,674 Administrator · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, ExplodedHamster said: There was an attempt to buy PC and PC said no. Whether GVN attempted harder recently, I dunno... I wasn't aware that was public knowledge. And by GVN you mean GC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DefaultGen 1,883 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 No NA, no GVN, no VGPC, it's like the gaming library of Alexandria burned down and we have to go back to the stone age of remembering things or looking them up individually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DefaultGen 1,883 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I referenced a book the other day for an NES variant. A BOOK. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeevan 3,429 Events Team · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) i think it was "public" knowledge because i thought it was announced when the old site was up, not necessarily announced, but mentioned by someone if i remember correctly. I could be wrong, but i vaguely remember it. Edited January 30, 2020 by Jeevan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gloves 4,674 Administrator · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeevan said: i think it was "public" knowledge because i thought it was announced when the old site was up, not necessarily announced, but mentioned by someone if i remember correctly. I could be wrong, but i vaguely remember it. It's just not something I'd imagine GC wanting to be known. Generally when you try to buy something, get turned down, then go buy that thing's competitor, you want people to think that you consider your purchase a "win", not a sloppy second choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeevan 3,429 Events Team · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Gloves said: It's just not something I'd imagine GC wanting to be known. Generally when you try to buy something, get turned down, then go buy that thing's competitor, you want people to think that you consider your purchase a "win", not a sloppy second choice. O i get it for sure like i said, i thought it was mentioned, cant remember for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lincoln 219 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 site is down now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gloves 4,674 Administrator · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 For the sake of keeping things together, I've merged the two threads talking about this as the situation has evolved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ExplodedHamster 70 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gloves said: It's just not something I'd imagine GC wanting to be known. Generally when you try to buy something, get turned down, then go buy that thing's competitor, you want people to think that you consider your purchase a "win", not a sloppy second choice. I would guess the idea was always to buy both, but that’s a pure guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gloves 4,674 Administrator · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, ExplodedHamster said: I would guess the idea was always to buy both, but that’s a pure guess. Expensive way to corner the market considering anyone else could hop in and make a competitor. The historical data is the main value really, and I mean... it's not illegal to scrape sites in the US. So... Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor an American. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nrslam 199 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Sounds like GC is setting themselves up for a antitrust complaint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockyyaknow 13 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Went to use PC and just has this message PriceCharting is temporarily under maintenance. We will be back up as soon as possible hopefully just normal maintenance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austin532 384 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Hope GVN doesn't turn into a zombified version of it's former self just like NA did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nesmaster 184 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) PC working as of this post, GVN is 404. 10:00 PM - The site is working for most requests for now. 99% of user requests will work just fine but requests might be slightly slower. Some database intensive features may not work (price guide downloads, collection importing, etc). We are still working on a more permanent fix and hope to have it up on the site soon. Edited January 30, 2020 by Nesmaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ExplodedHamster 70 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Nesmaster said: PC working as of this post, GVN is 404. Yup, phew. PC looks to be good. GVN, I’d guess less good news. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gloves 4,674 Administrator · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, austin532 said: Hope GVN doesn't turn into a zombified version of it's former self just like NA did. That is absolutely what has/will happen. It was mined for data for GC's own tool. I've been telling people to stop using GVN for months now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Startyde 157 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, RH said: I actually just checked both. The GVN certificate has either expired or they pulled it, and PC is simply shut down. I swear if this is GoCollect's doing... Quick, to the NA forum to voice your concerns!! Lawl... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockyyaknow 13 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 PC back up and running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Link 826 Member · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Gloves said: Expensive way to corner the market considering anyone else could hop in and make a competitor. The historical data is the main value really, Well, not anyone. As illustrated by jonebone’s reply here, and yours here regarding relatively simpler pursuits, the barrier to entry for something like that is pretty high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gloves 4,674 Administrator · Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Link said: Well, not anyone. As illustrated by jonebone’s reply here, and yours here regarding relatively simpler pursuits, the barrier to entry for something like that is pretty high. I was merely pointing out there that those things are not immediate priorities for us here. Anyone with time and dedication could make a GVN clone/competitor. We've got people here making literal NES homebrews. That's WAY more effort to learn than pulling data from ebay daily, storing it in a database, then posting that data to a webpage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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