guitarzombie | 918 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I would add unique/one-of-a-kind. All 3 Screw DKJr Maths are all refurbs as confirmed by their date codes. But I wouldnt mind some sort of scale. Its just tough because of the weird one offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,179 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: I would add unique/one-of-a-kind. All 3 Screw DKJr Maths are all refurbs as confirmed by their date codes. But I wouldnt mind some sort of scale. Its just tough because of the weird one offs. Then that’s 5 right there! R1 - 1 to 1 R5 - Unique R2, 3, and 4 is everything in between....but where do we draw those lines? Ooh I have an idea for a slider instead but I’m not at home. I’ll post it when I get home later!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 918 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Usually price is a good indicator haha. Most will probably fall in the common, slightly uncommon category. Are we talking only games that have 2 variants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Ferris Bueller said: The rarity code wasn't right and needed to be redone. I suggested 1-5 because 1-10 is dumb. 1 being 50/50 chance, 5 being items like 5 Screw SE or 3 Screw DK Jr Math. You get the idea. Prove to me you need more than five categories for rarity here. Wanna fight about it? Could you repost your 1-5 list if you still have it since the gocollect version got cut off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller | 491 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, 0xDEAFC0DE said: Could you repost your 1-5 list if you still have it since the gocollect version got cut off? First off, fuck Go Collect. That was abysmal. 6 – I have never seen a copy IRL,5 – I have seen 1 or 3 copies in person,4 – These were the harder carts to find. You rarely see these,3 – These can be found, but it will take a little looking,2 – You can find this semi easily, but it might be marked up a few bucks, and1 – Middle of the road, you should be able to pick up a copy with a 50/50 chance of getting either one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller | 491 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) For those who don't like my glibness. 6 – May exist, hasn't been seen. Mythical, e.g. 3 Screw Soccer.5 – Only a few copies exist, e.g. 5 Screw Stadium Events.4 – Very rare, hard to find, e.g. 5 Screw Mega Man or Mike Tyson's Punchout!!3 – Still rare, easier to find, e.g. 5 Screw Goonies II or 3 Screw Donkey Kong.2 – Only a little harder to find, e.g. 5 Screw Athletic World.1 – Middle of the road, you should be able to pick up a copy with a 50/50 chance of getting either one. Edited May 20, 2020 by Ferris Bueller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 918 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I would be on board with this. I think all the unofficial Ultra/Konami 5 screws should probably be 4/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Ferris Bueller said: First off, fuck Go Collect. That was abysmal. 6 – I have never seen a copy IRL,5 – I have seen 1 or 3 copies in person,4 – These were the harder carts to find. You rarely see these,3 – These can be found, but it will take a little looking,2 – You can find this semi easily, but it might be marked up a few bucks, and1 – Middle of the road, you should be able to pick up a copy with a 50/50 chance of getting either one. I definitely don't disagree. Anyway, I meant your list with all the games not just what the ratings mean. The table got cut off on the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,179 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) First Party Titles # Publisher Title 5-Screw 3-Screw 1 Nintendo 10-Yard Fight Yes Yes 2 Nintendo Balloon Fight Yes Yes 3 Nintendo Baseball Yes Yes 4 Nintendo Clu Clu Land Yes No 5 Nintendo Donkey Kong Yes Yes 6 Nintendo Donkey Kong 3 Yes Yes 7 Nintendo Donkey Kong Jr. Yes Yes 8 Nintendo Donkey Kong Jr. Math Yes Rumored 9 Nintendo Duck Hunt Yes Yes 10 Nintendo Excitebike Yes Yes 11 Nintendo Golf Yes Yes 12 Nintendo Gumshoe Yes No 13 Nintendo Gyromite Yes Yes 14 Nintendo Hogan's Alley Yes Yes 15 Nintendo Ice Climber Yes Yes 16 Nintendo Kid Icarus Yes Yes 17 Nintendo Kung Fu Yes Yes 18 Nintendo Legend of Zelda, The Yes Yes 19 Nintendo Mach Rider Yes Yes 20 Nintendo Mario Bros. Yes Yes 21 Nintendo Metroid Yes Yes 22 Nintendo Mike Tyson's Punch-Out Yes Yes 23 Nintendo Pinball Yes Yes 24 Nintendo Popeye Yes Yes 25 Nintendo Pro Wrestling Yes Yes 26 Nintendo R.C. Pro-Am Strange Yes 27 Nintendo Rad Racer Yes Yes 28 Nintendo Slalom Yes Yes 29 Nintendo Soccer Yes No 30 Nintendo Super Mario Bros. Yes Yes 31 Nintendo Tennis Yes Yes 32 Nintendo Urban Champion Yes Yes 33 Nintendo Volleyball Yes Yes 34 Nintendo Wild Gunman Yes Yes 35 Nintendo Wrecking Crew Yes Yes Third Party Titles # Publisher Title 5-Screw 3-Screw 1 Capcom 1942 Yes Yes 2 Acclaim 3-D Battles of World Runner, The Yes Yes 3 SNK Alpha Mission Yes Yes 4 Taito Arkanoid Yes Yes 5 SNK Athena Yes Yes 6 Data East Breakthru Yes Yes 7 Data East BurgerTime Yes Yes 8 Konami Castlevania Yes Yes 9 Bandai Chubby Cherub Yes No 10 Capcom Commando Yes Yes 11 Broderbund Deadly Towers Yes Yes 12 Konami Double Dribble Yes Yes 13 Taito Elevator Action Yes Yes 14 Bandai Family Fun Fitness: Athletic World Yes Yes 15 Bandai Family Fun Fitness: Stadium Events Yes Yes 16 Capcom Ghosts 'n Goblins Yes Yes 17 Konami Goonies II, The Yes Yes 18 LJN Gotcha: The Sport Yes Yes 19 Konami Gradius Yes Yes 20 SNK Ikari Warriors Yes Yes 21 LJN Jaws Yes Yes 22 Data East Karate Champ Yes Yes 23 LJN Karate Kid, The Possible Yes 24 Data East Kid Niki: Radical Ninja Yes Yes 25 Taito Legend of Kage, The Yes Yes 26 Broderbund Lode Runner Yes Yes 27 FCI Lunar Pool Yes Yes 28 Bandai M.U.S.C.L.E. Tag Team Match Yes Rumored 29 Capcom Mega Man Yes Yes 30 Tecmo Mighty Bombjack Yes Yes 31 Bandai Ninja Kid Yes Yes 32 Broderbund Raid on Bungeling Bay Yes Yes 33 Data East Ring King Yes Yes 34 Konami Rush'n Attack Yes Yes 35 Tecmo Rygar Yes Yes 36 Capcom Section-Z Yes Yes 37 Data East Side Pocket Possible Yes 38 Sunsoft Sky Kid Yes Yes 39 Tecmo Solomon's Key Yes Yes 40 Broderbund Spelunker Yes Yes 41 Sunsoft Spy Hunter Yes Yes 42 IREM Sqoon Yes No 43 Nintendo Stack-Up Yes No 44 Tecmo Star Force Yes Yes 45 Acclaim Star Voyager Yes Yes 46 Konami Stinger Yes Yes 47 Activision Super Pitfall Yes Yes 48 Data East Tag Team Wrestling Yes Yes 49 Acclaim Tiger-Heli Yes Yes 50 Konami Top Gun Yes Yes 51 Konami Track & Field Yes Yes 52 Capcom Trojan Yes Yes 53 Acclaim Winter Games Yes Yes 54 Acclaim Wizards & Warriors Yes Yes 55 FCI Zanac Yes Yes Edited May 20, 2020 by ThePhleo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,179 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 And heres the Konami Fun Variants. The games that *should* have 5-Screw variants aren't on this list (Castlevania, Double Dribble, Goonies II, Gradius, Rush'n Attack, Stinger, Top Gun, and Track & Field) # Publisher Title 5-screw 3-Screw 1 Konami Adventures of Bayou Billy, The Yes Yes 2 Ultra Base Wars: Cyber Stadium Series Yes Yes 3 Konami Castlevania II: Simon's Quest Yes Yes 4 Konami Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse Yes Yes 5 Konami Contra Yes Yes 6 Ultra Defender of the Crown Yes Yes 7 Konami Jackal Yes Yes 8 Ultra Kings of the Beach Professional Beach Volleyball Yes Yes 9 Ultra Metal Gear Yes Yes 10 Ultra Mission: Impossible Yes Yes 11 Ultra Q*Bert Yes Yes 12 Ultra Rollergames Yes Yes 13 Ultra Silent Service Yes Yes 14 Ultra Skate or Die Yes Yes 15 Ultra Ski or Die Yes Yes 16 Ultra Snake's Revenge Yes Yes 17 Konami Super C Yes Yes 18 Ultra Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Yes Yes 19 Ultra Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game Yes Yes 20 Konami Tiny Toon Adventures Yes Yes 21 Konami Top Gun: The Second Mission Yes Yes 22 Konami Track & Field II Yes Yes 23 Konami Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego? Yes Yes 24 Konami Bill Elliott's NASCAR Challenge Possible Yes 25 Konami Blades of Steel Possible Yes 26 Ultra Gyruss Possible Yes 27 Konami Jack Nicklaus' Greatest 18 Holes of Major Championship Golf Possible Yes 28 Konami Laser Invasion Possible Yes 29 Konami Life Force Possible Yes 30 Konami Lone Ranger Possible Yes 31 Ultra Pirates! Possible Yes 32 Konami Batman Returns Unlikely Yes 33 Konami Bucky O'Hare Unlikely Yes 34 Konami Contra Force Unlikely Yes 35 Konami King's Quest V Unlikely Yes 36 Konami Monster in My Pocket Unlikely Yes 37 Ultra Nightshade Unlikely Yes 38 Ultra Star Trek 25th Anniversary Unlikely Yes 39 Konami Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: The Manhattan Project Unlikely Yes 40 Konami Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament Fighters Unlikely Yes 41 Konami Tiny Toon Adventures 2: Trouble in Wackyland Unlikely Yes 42 Konami Tiny Toon Adventures Cartoon Workshop Unlikely Yes 43 Konami Zen: Intergalactic Ninja Unlikely Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,179 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Here's a test run... # Publisher Title Relative Rarity 1 Capcom 1942 2 Nintendo 10-Yard Fight 3 Acclaim 3-D Battles of World Runner, The 4 SNK Alpha Mission 5 Taito Arkanoid 6 SNK Athena 7 Nintendo Balloon Fight 8 Nintendo Baseball 9 Data East Breakthru 10 Data East BurgerTime 11 Konami Castlevania 12 Capcom Commando 13 Broderbund Deadly Towers 14 Nintendo Donkey Kong 15 Nintendo Donkey Kong 3 16 Nintendo Donkey Kong Jr. 17 Konami Double Dribble 18 Nintendo Duck Hunt 19 Taito Elevator Action 20 Nintendo Excitebike 21 Bandai Family Fun Fitness: Athletic World 22 Bandai Family Fun Fitness: Stadium Events 23 Capcom Ghosts 'n Goblins 24 Nintendo Golf 25 Konami Goonies II, The 26 LJN Gotcha: The Sport 27 Konami Gradius 28 Nintendo Gyromite 29 Nintendo Hogan's Alley 30 Nintendo Ice Climber 31 SNK Ikari Warriors 32 LJN Jaws 33 Data East Karate Champ 34 Nintendo Kid Icarus 35 Data East Kid Niki: Radical Ninja 36 Nintendo Kung Fu 37 Taito Legend of Kage, The 38 Nintendo Legend of Zelda, The 39 Broderbund Lode Runner 40 FCI Lunar Pool 41 Nintendo Mach Rider 42 Nintendo Mario Bros. 43 Capcom Mega Man 44 Nintendo Metroid 45 Tecmo Mighty Bombjack 46 Nintendo Mike Tyson's Punch-Out 47 Bandai Ninja Kid 48 Nintendo Pinball 49 Nintendo Popeye 50 Nintendo Pro Wrestling 51 Nintendo Rad Racer 52 Broderbund Raid on Bungeling Bay 53 Data East Ring King 54 Konami Rush'n Attack 55 Tecmo Rygar 56 Capcom Section-Z 57 Sunsoft Sky Kid 58 Nintendo Slalom 59 Tecmo Solomon's Key 60 Broderbund Spelunker 61 Sunsoft Spy Hunter 62 Tecmo Star Force 63 Acclaim Star Voyager 64 Konami Stinger 65 Nintendo Super Mario Bros. 66 Activision Super Pitfall 67 Data East Tag Team Wrestling 68 Nintendo Tennis 69 Acclaim Tiger-Heli 70 Konami Top Gun 71 Konami Track & Field 72 Capcom Trojan 73 Nintendo Urban Champion 74 Nintendo Volleyball 75 Nintendo Wild Gunman 76 Acclaim Winter Games 77 Acclaim Wizards & Warriors 78 Nintendo Wrecking Crew 79 FCI Zanac Edited May 20, 2020 by ThePhleo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 918 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, ThePhleo said: And heres the Konami Fun Variants. The games that *should* have 5-Screw variants aren't on this list (Castlevania, Double Dribble, Goonies II, Gradius, Rush'n Attack, Stinger, Top Gun, and Track & Field) Cool list! Although I think it would be easier to understand or even predict if it was sorted by release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 918 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, ThePhleo said: Here's a test run... # Publisher Title Relative Rarity 1 Capcom 1942 2 Nintendo 10-Yard Fight 3 Acclaim 3-D Battles of World Runner, The 4 SNK Alpha Mission 5 Taito Arkanoid 6 SNK Athena 7 Nintendo Balloon Fight 8 Nintendo Baseball 9 Data East Breakthru 10 Data East BurgerTime 11 Konami Castlevania 12 Capcom Commando 13 Broderbund Deadly Towers 14 Nintendo Donkey Kong 15 Nintendo Donkey Kong 3 16 Nintendo Donkey Kong Jr. 17 Konami Double Dribble 18 Nintendo Duck Hunt 19 Taito Elevator Action 20 Nintendo Excitebike 21 Bandai Family Fun Fitness: Athletic World 22 Bandai Family Fun Fitness: Stadium Events 23 Capcom Ghosts 'n Goblins 24 Nintendo Golf 25 Konami Goonies II, The 26 LJN Gotcha: The Sport 27 Konami Gradius 28 Nintendo Gyromite 29 Nintendo Hogan's Alley 30 Nintendo Ice Climber 31 SNK Ikari Warriors 32 LJN Jaws 33 Data East Karate Champ 34 Nintendo Kid Icarus 35 Data East Kid Niki: Radical Ninja 36 Nintendo Kung Fu 37 Taito Legend of Kage, The 38 Nintendo Legend of Zelda, The 39 Broderbund Lode Runner 40 FCI Lunar Pool 41 Nintendo Mach Rider 42 Nintendo Mario Bros. 43 Capcom Mega Man 44 Nintendo Metroid 45 Tecmo Mighty Bombjack 46 Nintendo Mike Tyson's Punch-Out 47 Bandai Ninja Kid 48 Nintendo Pinball 49 Nintendo Popeye 50 Nintendo Pro Wrestling 51 Nintendo Rad Racer 52 Broderbund Raid on Bungeling Bay 53 Data East Ring King 54 Konami Rush'n Attack 55 Tecmo Rygar 56 Capcom Section-Z 57 Sunsoft Sky Kid 58 Nintendo Slalom 59 Tecmo Solomon's Key 60 Broderbund Spelunker 61 Sunsoft Spy Hunter 62 Tecmo Star Force 63 Acclaim Star Voyager 64 Konami Stinger 65 Nintendo Super Mario Bros. 66 Activision Super Pitfall 67 Data East Tag Team Wrestling 68 Nintendo Tennis 69 Acclaim Tiger-Heli 70 Konami Top Gun 71 Konami Track & Field 72 Capcom Trojan 73 Nintendo Urban Champion 74 Nintendo Volleyball 75 Nintendo Wild Gunman 76 Acclaim Winter Games 77 Acclaim Wizards & Warriors 78 Nintendo Wrecking Crew 79 FCI Zanac Nice list too! Although I would put Gotcha at 5, because of the overabundance of 3 screws. Also maybe a star next to Stadium Events only because so few exist already, its hard to weigh how many known 5s are there vs 3, but just for the rarity of the game itself it should be a 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller | 491 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, ThePhleo said: This is the most accurate representation of how they should be presented. Now, someone needs to come up with real data because as I proved with Goonies II, the old list rarities was also not correct. Use something simple like if you search eBay, how many from each side pop up. I don't care what @Sign Collector Guy says, it's the biggest readily available pool of data out there at any given moment. Look through the results for each game, tally the numbers for both variants, list the results. Goonies II was like 1 in 100 for the 5 Screw. I think Alpha Mission is the same. I put them at a 3 on my scale. Edited May 21, 2020 by Ferris Bueller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Centroid | 79 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Isn't she a beaut! Hasbro's re-release of Centipede on the Game Boy Color. -1 Variant. I wasn't sure if I should post this variant pieced together, or separately. So here's a few pics of them together, and separate. I personally like the change in box art for this release, but it looks pretty bad as far as the cartridge and manual go. I forgot that someone had wrote their initials on the cartridge.. Time to replace that. Edited May 22, 2020 by Sir Centroid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,179 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I did a test run of the first 10 in the list and it had some interesting results. (Baseball was super hard to do manually so I just added "-bo -rbi -r.b.i -loaded -major -mlb -bad -news -diamond -roger -clemens -stars -tecmo -wars -cyber -simulator -softball -allstar -little -league" 3-Screw 5-Screw Oval Circle Circle Total 3-Screw 5-Screw 1942 6 12 33 51 35.29% 64.71% 11.76% 23.53% 64.71% 10-Yard Fight 151 102 253 59.68% 40.32% 59.68% 40.32% 3-D WorldRunner 33 38 71 46.48% 53.52% 46.48% 53.52% Alpha Mission 66 1 67 98.51% 1.49% 98.51% 1.49% Arkanoid 15 16 31 48.39% 51.61% 48.39% 51.61% Athena 10 23 33 30.30% 69.70% 30.30% 69.70% Balloon Fight 8 1 22 31 29.03% 70.97% 25.81% 3.23% 70.97% Baseball 94 139 233 40.34% 59.66% 40.34% 59.66% Breakthru 33 13 46 71.74% 28.26% 71.74% 28.26% BurgerTime 42 22 18 82 78.05% 21.95% 51.22% 26.83% 21.95% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 918 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Id def like to see where this data ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyansas | 131 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Interesting first round of data. I would think that eBay data would be skewed toward 5 screws being rarer than they actually are because people are more likely to buy a five screw if it's available. So maybe include the sold/completed ones in your count too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Rogers | 77 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I don't know whether this is a misprint but it's certainly an error. The Australian Adventures of Lolo 3 box has the same UPC as the USA version of Trax on GB https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gameboy/585974-trax/images/138770 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjistar | 517 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 8:03 PM, Joshua Rogers said: I don't know whether this is a misprint but it's certainly an error. The Australian Adventures of Lolo 3 box has the same UPC as the USA version of Trax on GB https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gameboy/585974-trax/images/138770 @Hybrid take a look at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller | 491 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) UPCs can be reused. Were the games made by the same company? Sometimes a company goes under and the UPC is sold to a new one, too. @ThePhleo Thanks for doing that. Looks right so far. I thought Arkanoid would be more skewed. Edited June 1, 2020 by Ferris Bueller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divingninja | 47 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Hey guys, I still have all my stuff from NA. let me know if you need any pictures. -3 Wayne Gretzky 3 screw DK, backward seal of quality Super mario world, upside down label 3 screw top gun baseball printing error 5 screw Megaman, punchout, gotchca konami 5 screw: base wars, bayou billy, metal gear, QBert, rollergames, silent service, tmnt oval seal tm, tmnt oval seal r, tmnt arcade game, Carmen San Diego, skate or die, and a questionable track and field 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divingninja | 47 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Oh and 5 screw Jaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divingninja | 47 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Looks like you didn’t have these pictures on the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divingninja | 47 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 And here are the variants of the rare variants for TMNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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