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8 hours ago, Sumez said:

The default rendering engine doesn't really support changing the angle to look up/down in that way, hence mouselook probably wouldn't work well. Also, keep in mind using the mouse to aim up and down wasn't a standard for FPS games at the time, unless you count聽stuff like Star Wars Arcade. Even using the mouse to look left or right wasn't the expected default scheme. The game just auto aims because it's what makes sense for the gameplay. 馃檪

Duke Nukem 3D has mouse look and renders the world in a similar way, and you can easily see the perspective distorting when you look up and down.

Star Wars Dark Forces had look up and down on the PS1, don't think that was true in the PC version.

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Just a heads up to anyone who got jay and silent bob - my cartridge was glitching out on AVS, LRG is replacing it. Make sure to test yours! I couldn鈥檛 get more than 2 minutes in

The main difference between your baseball card example and this is right in the title of this thread (and the company name) "Limited Run".聽 There was nothing limited about 90s baseball cards, they pri

You are trying to create a distinction and an expectation where there shouldn't be one. This series of machines are generally referred to as clones, in this hobby, no matter if it's a $5 noac or a $10

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2 minutes ago, Sumez said:

LRG are doing Dangun Feveron! I think that's the last of the current M2 ShotTriggers releases to get a physical run?

Of course, they know what they can get away with charging for it 馃槶, $45 for the base version, that's gotta be the most expensive LRG release so far?

Power Rangers was $60 I think聽

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9 minutes ago, Sumez said:

LRG are doing Dangun Feveron! I think that's the last of the current M2 ShotTriggers releases to get a physical run?

Of course, they know what they can get away with charging for it 馃槶, $45 for the base version, that's gotta be the most expensive LRG release so far?

There have been several games that have been $60.聽 In some cases, they can't control the price of the game.聽 I'm not sure about this situation, but at $45, I'm guessing it has something to do with the agreement to publish the game.聽聽

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29 minutes ago, MiamiSlice said:

Just go to any limited run group / sub / etc, they are already whining. I mean look at this poor soul. His brain has been fully broken by collecting / investing mania.

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Interesting.聽 I follow over half a dozen social media pages dedicated to LRG or similar publishers, and while I find a lot of toxic behavior, I have yet to see anyone complain about a limited print game getting a retail release.聽 Most people don't care because:

  • if you bought it to play it, you are already playing it and should be happy
  • if you bought it as a collector's item, you know your copy will be more valuable and you should be happy
  • if you missed buying it, you will have another chance to buy it聽and should be happy

The person in the example above is looks to be miss informed and I would bet new to the scene.聽 They clearly want an excuse to complain about LRG and they think they found one, but didn't really think it through.聽聽

TLDR:聽 I've seen a lot of obnoxious/toxic behavior in this subset of the collecting community, but this example would be new to me.聽聽

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4 minutes ago, TDIRunner said:

Interesting.聽 I follow over half a dozen social media pages dedicated to LRG or similar publishers, and while I find a lot of toxic behavior, I have yet to see anyone complain about a limited print game getting a retail release.聽 Most people don't care because:

  • if you bought it to play it, you are already playing it and should be happy
  • if you bought it as a collector's item, you know your copy will be more valuable and you should be happy
  • if you missed buying it, you will have another chance to buy it聽and should be happy

The person in the example above is looks to be miss informed and I would bet new to the scene.聽 They clearly want an excuse to complain about LRG and they think they found one, but didn't really think it through.聽聽

TLDR:聽 I've seen a lot of obnoxious/toxic behavior in this subset of the collecting community, but this example would be new to me.聽聽

This person isn't new, he's been complaining about LRG for months at least.聽

I've seen this kind of sentiment in a few places. I could post another example...

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Just now, MiamiSlice said:

This person isn't new, he's been complaining about LRG for months at least.聽

I've seen this kind of sentiment in a few places. I could post another example...

Meh.聽 Some people just live to complain.聽 They just can't be happy until they find fault in something.聽聽

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5 minutes ago, TDIRunner said:

  • if you bought it as a collector's item, you know your copy will be more valuable and you should be happy

Also this right here would get a lot of pushback.聽 I saw someone arguing today that if the retail release of Blasphemous has a later version on the cart, with DLC included or whatever, then that might be the preferred version for collectors and therefore the LRG release would lose value.聽

Or I've seen the argument that if a game is getting another release, then the supply isn't as limited anymore, because they don't really think of it as variant collecting, it's just about having any version possible on that console. And they think they are right, because the price does dip initially. For example, look what happened to Human Fall Flat when the anniversary edition hit retail. People aren't paying $100+ for that anymore.聽

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1 minute ago, MiamiSlice said:

Also this right here would get a lot of pushback.聽 I saw someone arguing today that if the retail release of Blasphemous has a later version on the cart, with DLC included or whatever, then that might be the preferred version for collectors and therefore the LRG release would lose value.聽

Or I've seen the argument that if a game is getting another release, then the supply isn't as limited anymore, because they don't really think of it as variant collecting, it's just about having any version possible on that console. And they think they are right, because the price does dip initially. For example, look what happened to Human Fall Flat when the anniversary edition hit retail. People aren't paying $100+ for that anymore.聽

This situation still wouldn't qualify as a reason to complain.聽 LRG has stated from the very beginning that while they will never create a second print run of any game they publish, they will also NEVER prevent the developer from creating another print with different publisher.聽 EVERY SINGLE PERSON聽buying a game from LRG knows that there may be another release from another publisher in the future, so they know the risk.聽聽

One thing I will never lose sleep over is people buying games as investments and loosing their shirts over it.聽

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4 hours ago, Californication said:

Star Wars Dark Forces had look up and down on the PS1, don't think that was true in the PC version.

You're making me check my bigbox for the manual.聽 And it does as I thought I remembered.聽 PGUP/DOWN to look that way, and 5 on the keypad centers view.聽 Also on a joystick with more advanced bits(hat) you can set that up for it as well.

Surprised to see the Doom discussion go that far, popular game (obviously.)聽 LRG is a mixed bag of pain and pleasure considering they can't always seem to get the crap together when setting dates, then just letting them fly right by.聽 But whenever it does arrive it's some pretty nicely done stuff.

I kind of wanted to pay more on Doom, but the $50 up sell from the mid to biggest box seemed like a stretch, would have liked that shadowbox but not worth $50.

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6 minutes ago, Tanooki said:

You're making me check my bigbox for the manual.聽 And it does as I thought I remembered.聽 PGUP/DOWN to look that way, and 5 on the keypad centers view.聽 Also on a joystick with more advanced bits(hat) you can set that up for it as well.

Surprised to see the Doom discussion go that far, popular game (obviously.)聽 LRG is a mixed bag of pain and pleasure considering they can't always seem to get the crap together when setting dates, then just letting them fly right by.聽 But whenever it does arrive it's some pretty nicely done stuff.

I kind of wanted to pay more on Doom, but the $50 up sell from the mid to biggest box seemed like a stretch, would have liked that shadowbox but not worth $50.

I'll give you $20 for that red key card from the Switch version if that helps.

Edit: oh wait, you got the middle one. I read that as just the game for some reason.

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4 hours ago, Sumez said:

LRG are doing Dangun Feveron! I think that's the last of the current M2 ShotTriggers releases to get a physical run?

Of course, they know what they can get away with charging for it 馃槶, $45 for the base version, that's gotta be the most expensive LRG release so far?

Brigandine and Yooka Laylee were $60

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2 hours ago, Tanooki said:

I kind of wanted to pay more on Doom, but the $50 up sell from the mid to biggest box seemed like a stretch, would have liked that shadowbox but not worth $50.

That's what I'm debating.聽 I'm definitely ordering the game, but I'm trying to decide if I want to pay money for the extra stuff.聽 I'm guessing that I probably won't.聽聽

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