m308gunner

Welcome to VGS! Glad to have you.

Thanks for posting this!

Welcome to the forums!

Welcome to VGS mang! Glad you made it.

9/10 based on this alone.

Welcome to VGS! Glad you made the jump.

Welcome to the party pal!

Gotta love that Phalanx art. I remember seeing it in the store when it came out and immediately going for Final Fantasy 2 instead

I'll go ahead and agree with @Fleck586 on this one.

After reflecting for some hours I don't believe I am the target of your frustration/pain, just the most recent and easily accessible avenue through which you felt the need to vent. Seeing as how this post of yours was the very first interaction we have ever had (to my knowledge) it would be very difficult to take most, if not all, of what you say personally, as much of it is objectively false. I do have this to say about empathy/compassion. It is not the highest ideal, nor the loftiest virtue and should not be the end goal when navigating your way through the world. It might be fine and good when dealing with infants or injured people, but stunting and a cause for resentment when dealing with adults. In other words, you don't treat adults like children and expect good results in the long run. A mother grizzly (or any mother in fact) has compassion/empathy for her cub, but get between them and you will feel the full brunt of said compassion regardless of your intentions.

Dismissing would be applying the label (not that it is a label), waving away their argument, and abandoning the conversation or never addressing them again. None of that has happened (yet). Usually when a situation escalates into a highly agitated emotional state, the mature/responsible thing to do by all parties is to give some distance and re-engage with a more level headed approach. And given the nature of the original post, emotional would be the tamest possible word to use to describe the contents of said message.

Since you are obviously very emotional at the moment (and editing your post) I will give you the time to reflect on your words/arguments and respond in detail to whatever you choose to leave up this evening.

Welcome to VGS Jay!

It is exactly their opinion, because we are not talking hard science here. We are talking about an ideology that groups people by their traits and makes assumptions based on those traits. What's more, they seek to establish a social hierarchy based on said traits (I believe it's been called the victimhood hierarchy, or the intersectional heirarchy, depending on who's talking). At that point they cease to hold any legitimacy and become one with the racists they purport to abhor. Your fondness and readiness to throw around the word bigot and characterize jokes as attacks while offering no compelling argument does not speak highly of you. When is the last time you heard a working comedian talk about the left and comedy? The popular opinion that I have heard is that the left is the death of comedy.

Referencing the SJW left's opinion on comedy and characterizing in advance people who will not agree is the height of... words better left unsaid.

Well, I'm sure I don't need to rattle off the old adage about forgetting and repeating history to you, but I don't think that's the direction you're coming from. I would argue that we should never expect true evil to disappear entirely. It will continue to fester, linger and regrow (because that's kinda it's thing). I merely suggest that we keep our "swords" (mind/arguments) sharpened and not freak out at the twitching corpse that it has become.

You (and about three other members) seem to be misunderstanding pretty much everything I'm trying to communicate here from start to finish. On top of that you've taken a point I was trying to make about the general social mindset, which observably tends toward over sensitivity, and twisted it into my somehow defending white nationalism or the KKK. A more blatant straw man argument you could not make. So let's try to clear this one particular point up. Today's culture is overly sensitive, and has been growing ever more so since the early 2000s. I posit that the pendulum of social norms is once again swinging back in the other direction (due to political-correction-exhaustion, among other things), and society is beginning to ease it's white knuckled panic over the mere mention of racism (something the left has enabled by continuously overusing and over applying the term). I don't like using analogies, but imagine a new doctor vs. a veteran doctor who has to deliver test results to a gravely ill patient. In this poorly built scenario, the new doctor enters the room overly excited and dramatically announces that all is lost unless the patient starts treatment yesterday ("we may even have to amputate!!!"), while the older doctor pulls up a stool and calmly walks through the problem and how they can treat the ailment. Both acknowledge that there is a problem, but one approaches the problem like it is death incarnate (today's waning SJW culture), while the other has seen it all before and know's how to handle it (Mr. Davis and hopefully the rest of us). Now, please re-read my earlier post.

Save my spiel? Come now, MrWunderful. You're made of stronger stuff. The point I was trying to make about the KKK is that their membership is on a downward trajectory and they are increasingly irrelevant in today's culture, especially on a historical trajectory, and are thus not as much of a threat as you might like to think. This and many more salient points are made by Daryl Davis in the Joe Rogan interview, and listening to it would help ground your concern that that hate group, in particular, is not the threat you may think they are. Are you sure that the "white nationalism seeping into the mainstream" isn't just the pendulum of history/social norms swinging away from the hyper sensitive mindset of the mainstream into a more robust and mature mindset? One that is able to face the evils of the past and not blink? Or maybe something akin to gallows humor? Things that are so dark that for some the only way to cope with the magnitude of evil is to laugh at it? Dave Chapelle's Clayton Bigsby sketch comes to mind. I would rather have the hate groups online, honestly. They are easier to keep track of and refute that way. I also don't have to wade through fields of ticks or get lost in the woods.

Nobody in this thread can legitimately say they speak for anyone but themselves, including you, and from where I stand Quest has not purported to do so. The KKK is no longer a single unified entity, and has not existed as such for a rather long time. They are much more fragmented into local/state chapters, and so if someone makes the claim that the KKK is backing a particular candidate it would not be fair or accurate to characterize said endorsement as a nation-wide effort. Also, if a particular chapter of the KKK backs someone who is not looking for their endorsement (and has even disavowed them), and you lump them in with guilt by association, that does not speak highly of your objectivity or willingness to see nuance in a world with a million shades of grey. No one is pure. No one is good. No one has a perfect lens with which they view and interpret the world. It has been my experience that those who are obsessed with racism will find it anywhere and everywhere and use it as a tool to control and shame others, thus making any attempt to discuss or deal with the remnants of that failed ideology that much more difficult. I recommend to all checking out Daryl Davis' interview on the Joe Rogan podcast (easily found on youtube). He has converted a number of actual KKK members (and has their robes to prove it) and can provide some much needed context to the issue at hand. He's also one mean musician.

Oh, thaaaaaaat's where all my childhood nightmares came from. Glad to finally put that to rest

Welcome to VGS TotalRadNES!

My gut reaction was 1/10, but as @Kguillemette said, they would rate higher if I were just to consider them instrumentally. They are America's shame. I would rate Nickelback higher then them. They are a regular subject of derision in the workplace whenever someone is loading an especially large file, "Keep loadin', loadin', loadin'! What?!"

Paul!!! Originator of the fabled "Super C" Good to see you mang!

Blaster Master too.