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1 hour ago, bronzeshield said:

Meanwhile I tried Jeep Jamboree, but man, that game is a painful slideshow. I was able to do OK in earlier races but as soon as the track gets cluttered it's an exercise in misery. The win condition is "Win the Championship race season on at least intermediate difficulty" -- is that because there's a known ending on that mode? The manual (which is garbage) doesn't mention anything about it and the available playthroughs on YouTube don't reach 1st place at the end. The Short or Intermediate seasons might be more achievable.

I show 3 people as "beating this" on my tracker. checking the youtube vids for Moe and Atroz show they both got 2nd overall and said "good enough" and the third deleted their YT and Twitch accounts, so no way to check.  Maybe it would be worthwhile to try the shortest race season and see if it gives an ending for that before going farther?

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2 hours ago, Floating Platforms said:

I show 3 people as "beating this" on my tracker. checking the youtube vids for Moe and Atroz show they both got 2nd overall and said "good enough" and the third deleted their YT and Twitch accounts, so no way to check.  Maybe it would be worthwhile to try the shortest race season and see if it gives an ending for that before going farther?

Yeah, I watched Moelleuh's video and maybe Atroz's too, and saw that they got no ending to speak of. It'd be a downer to work to get 1st place only to get the same "nothing" finish!

I think this one is calling out for a savestate playthrough -- or a few of them -- to establish what's what. Not sure I'm the one to do it, as I've got an infant in the house, but I'll see what I can make happen.

Maybe there's a way to turn off collision detection with a cheat? That'd make it much easier to blast through to the finish line (literally) and see what happens.

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7 hours ago, bronzeshield said:

Yeah, I watched Moelleuh's video and maybe Atroz's too, and saw that they got no ending to speak of. It'd be a downer to work to get 1st place only to get the same "nothing" finish!

I think this one is calling out for a savestate playthrough -- or a few of them -- to establish what's what. Not sure I'm the one to do it, as I've got an infant in the house, but I'll see what I can make happen.

It is a bit disappointing for people like us who are hoping for definitive answers but they basically say things like "eh, it's a racing game. I don't care enough to try for 1st. I saw credits." At the same time, I understand approaching games with that mentality overall. Racing games on GB generally do suck.

I don't think I'll be able to devote the time to a save state playthrough either this year, at least not for a while. Even though I had to play another racing game since, beating Wave Race makes me want to avoid them as much as possible.

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Editorials Team · Posted

Found Game Genie codes 😆

3EC-62E-E68 + 01C-63E-19A       Always finish in 1st place
799-D49-19F + 799-D79-19B       Mega speed--stay at constant high speed even
when off course and hitting rocks
02B-F0A-E6E     Race 1 lap shorter
03B-F0A-E6E     Race 2 laps shorter
04B-F0A-E6E     Race 3 laps shorter

I'll dig out my Game Genie and see what I can figure out!

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Editorials Team · Posted

I looked for some Gameshark codes so that the label could be right side up...

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But failing that, I did the always-first code and swept a Championship at Pro difficulty. This was probably very confusing for the CPU players. ("I lapped that guy four times, how did he win?") And after I think 10 races, I got an ending screen:

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Sorry, I didn't know the picture was so bad until now. After this screen, it went to the credits like in the YT videos. I'm guessing this screen (with whatever season and difficulty you chose) pops up if you place first in the final leaderboard. But that's just a guess, I'll try other settings to verify.

If the endings are the same, should the easiest mode be allowed? It's not an easy game. But it's actually not the worst framerate I've seen on GB...

 

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5 hours ago, Splain said:

I looked for some Gameshark codes so that the label could be right side up...

I don't know why you would want to change perfection, but okay.

5 hours ago, Splain said:

After this screen, it went to the credits like in the YT videos. I'm guessing this screen (with whatever season and difficulty you chose) pops up if you place first in the final leaderboard. But that's just a guess, I'll try other settings to verify.

If the endings are the same, should the easiest mode be allowed? It's not an easy game. But it's actually not the worst framerate I've seen on GB...

Interesting...  My thought is that if all the endings look the same, but just have the difficulty and season length listed, then we should count the medium settings for both. If its different screens, or if that only appears on the highest level, then maybe the highest is necessary.

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2 hours ago, Floating Platforms said:

I don't know why you would want to change perfection, but okay.

Interesting...  My thought is that if all the endings look the same, but just have the difficulty and season length listed, then we should count the medium settings for both. If its different screens, or if that only appears on the highest level, then maybe the highest is necessary.

Well, the difficulty offers NOVICE, INTERMEDIATE and PRO options (capitalization as in the manual), while the season types are SHORT, INTERMEDIATE, and CHAMPIONSHIP. Since the game defaults to NOVICE and SHORT, I tend to think that's enough as long as you get an ending?

(I usually aim for a minimum of Normal in my own playthroughs, and usually don't call a game done until I've beaten Hard. But that's my own quirk -- for efforts like VGS's, I think defaults are enough, barring a bad or non- ending.)

But yes, the key question is which modes do or don't give endings. My suspicion is that either all settings will give the same ending (with the text changed to reflect difficulty and season), or it'll gatekeep itself at INTERMEDIATE difficulty but allow for an ending on the SHORT season.

Thanks to Splain -- you're answering the unanswered questions! Maybe try NOVICE/SHORT next and see what you get? If you get essentially the same ending I think we have our answer and no others would need to be tried...

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Editorials Team · Posted

Welp:

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The menu calls it Novice but the end screen calls it Beginners. It was 5 tracks long. The game defaults to Novice/Beginners difficulty, but I wouldn't say the season (short/intermediate/championship) defaults to anything, unless you count Practice.

Strictly speaking, it's a different ending screen for each combination of difficulty and season, just because it states what you selected. So the "better" ending screens are only better because they say harder selections. But the image is the same, and the guy is still smiling.

So I guess a case can be made for both Novice (default) and Intermediate (middle/normal) difficulty. There's no appreciable difference in the ending. The seasons feature completely different tracks, not just added tracks for longer seasons, in case that matters.

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6 hours ago, Splain said:

The menu calls it Novice but the end screen calls it Beginners. It was 5 tracks long. The game defaults to Novice/Beginners difficulty, but I wouldn't say the season (short/intermediate/championship) defaults to anything, unless you count Practice.

Strictly speaking, it's a different ending screen for each combination of difficulty and season, just because it states what you selected. So the "better" ending screens are only better because they say harder selections. But the image is the same, and the guy is still smiling.

So I guess a case can be made for both Novice (default) and Intermediate (middle/normal) difficulty. There's no appreciable difference in the ending. The seasons feature completely different tracks, not just added tracks for longer seasons, in case that matters.

Thanks for going through this!

I would count all of these ending screens as the same, even though the words change.  So then the question is what constitutes beating it?  The thread rules say "100% completion is not required, thus the default or “normal” difficulty is typically fine."

If Novice is the default, then I suppose that should count. Which season you choose is an odd wrinkle too, since all 3 are completely different.  So my vote would be something simple like "Get 1st place overall on any season mode."

Like @bronzeshield, I would probably go for at least medium difficulty for my own run, but for this challenge, I wouldn't be mad at anyone claiming points on a novice run.

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11 hours ago, Splain said:

The game defaults to Novice/Beginners difficulty, but I wouldn't say the season (short/intermediate/championship) defaults to anything, unless you count Practice.

Yeah, my mistake on that -- I don't remember how I got that wrong, but I did.

Thanks so much for checking on that! So it looks like any season is eligible, and the only question is whether Intermediate difficulty is required or the default Novice is OK. Like @Floating Platforms, for this challenge, I'd say 1st place on any season mode -- and, especially since Novice is the default and the ending doesn't change, any difficulty.

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The last level of Bill & Ted’s was super forgiving. So many pickups that you can easily get two 1-ups per try. It’s also 10 levels. I only saw passwords for the first 9, so if anyone needs the tenth in the future (like when I forgot to write one down), it’s 555-1881. 

Edit: @Floating Platforms, for your spreadsheet, it took me 4hrs and 5mins to complete. 😄

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