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5 minutes ago, Californication said:

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but aren't almost all of the largest mass shooting in red states? Nevada, Florida, Texas.

 

It can happen anywhere. Sandy Hook, the YouTube HQ in San Bruno, and San Bernardino come to mind immediately. In addition to San Bernardino's famous mass shooting in 2015, there was another outside a hookah bar 2 weeks ago.

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16 minutes ago, Kguillemette said:

So two mass shootings on Sunday(one in OK at a memorial day festival, and another in Chattanooga TN) and another shooting today in Tulsa, OK.

Shit can happen literally anywhere. Even in gun friendly hyper republican states!

I have to stop in the US for a few days in December. Might need to rock up in this:

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20 hours ago, Californication said:

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but aren't almost all of the largest mass shooting in red states? Nevada, Florida, Texas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States
 

Just looking at the past several years, they’re kind of all over the place, but many of these aren’t really headline mass shootings. Though we hear about them locally. I live in the suburbs of Chicago and we have strict gun laws but still have issues.

I’m personally for stricter gun laws despite the fact that they may not reduce certain gun violence. I personally believe there should be some sort of annual mental fitness evaluation in order to maintain gun ownership. Life circumstances can change and have a significant impact on someone over time. A once stable person may no longer be fit to own a gun. I do not own a gun, and I don’t plan to, but I did get a FOID card, required for Illinois in case stuff hits the fan and I do need to prepare myself to protect my family. However, I never plan to use it.
 

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5 minutes ago, Estil said:

Do I even want to know who or what that is? 😮 

It's actually a pretty interesting piece of Australian history if you want to read about it: Ned Kelly - Wikipedia

There's been a few movies made through the years and in fact the world's first feature length film was actually about Ned Kelly and the Kelly gang. 

I was just making a pretty out there joke (at least to non Australian's) that because I'm Australian and going to be in the US for a few days I better come dressed as Ned Kelly to deflect all the bullets haha.

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58 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said:

Seriously, we have a mental health problem in this country. It’s not just these people either. Look at the increased rates of suicide, especially amongst Gen Z. While not all would seek it or necessarily be helped by it, mental health treatment should be available to all regardless of individual resources.

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22 minutes ago, ICrappedMyPants said:

Seriously, we have a mental health problem in this country. It’s not just these people either. Look at the increased rates of suicide, especially amongst Gen Z. While not all would seek it or necessarily be helped by it, mental health treatment should be available to all regardless of individual resources.

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12 hours ago, Brickman said:

It's actually a pretty interesting piece of Australian history if you want to read about it: Ned Kelly - Wikipedia

There's been a few movies made through the years and in fact the world's first feature length film was actually about Ned Kelly and the Kelly gang. 

I was just making a pretty out there joke (at least to non Australian's) that because I'm Australian and going to be in the US for a few days I better come dressed as Ned Kelly to deflect all the bullets haha.

Isn't Ned Kelly like the Australian Jesse James?

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33 minutes ago, Brickman said:

I have heard of Jesse James but don’t know much about him. I did a quick google and yep they definitely sound similar. I’ll have to read more into his history, thanks 🙂

There are some big differences - Frank and Jesse James rode with Quantrill's Raiders (and later Bloody Bill Anderson (who was a lieutenant of Quantrill's until that group broke up)). While supposedly part of the organized Confederate forces they (along with other groups on both sides) committed enough atrocities* that eventually the Confederate government disowned them.  They were really nothing more than brigands as opposed to a military unit.  This part of the James history became largely overlooked/forgotten and the pair eventually became folk heroes of a sort. (They also had links to the Knights of the Golden Circle (who were largely responsible for the formation of the KKK) - a rather nasty lot of pro-slavery twits who,even though underground, were fairly influential in the post war south and the attendant anti-black policies/activities.)

*One of those was a raid on Lawrence, Kansas (an anti-slavery Union town) where they killed somewhere north of  180 civilians

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