Tabonga | 2,290 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) I was recently in ICU for 12 days - kidney failure with an unknown cause. So I got kidney dialysis and fortunately my kidneys came back online. I really remember very little of most of the stay since I was pretty much out of it ------------------------------- Enough of that - I got the hospital bill today - so the game is to guess how much it was in total. It is between $100k and $200k. The poll is divided by $10k increments so a little rounding is involved. Edited October 25, 2021 by Tabonga 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I'll go with $130k even though it's probably too low. Hope you're feeling better now BTW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeevan | 8,882 Events Helper · Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Holy crap! Hope you are ok! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A. | 1,139 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Yikes! Glad you made it out! 12 days, I'm going high at 190k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,539 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 My dad had an emergency quad bypass at Brigham women's in Boston a couple years ago. I think a 10 day stay there was 140k, so for a 12, I'll go 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,925 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I'm going to call it at 150k. I'm rounding up a little as I know from my work insurance and non-insured in general costs for a day stay in a hospital on average what it can cost, then you pull that out by 12 days. I could be low, but actual dialysis isn't that much compared to the rest of that mess. I may be low, so I guess we'll see later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,353 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I’ll go with $120K, $10,000 per 1 day of stay. Whatever the actual cost, it’s an eye opener for me with health expenses these days regarding hospital bills! Hope you’re health insured and they will cover most of it @Tabonga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count | 521 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 $200K. Hope you're on the mend! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmorgandrinker | 1,647 Administrator · Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Guessed 160k; also figured on 10k a day for the ICU itself and then 40 grand for treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,445 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I'm going high end. The health industry pricing is so fucked up that it could be any cost, really. They hire people called chargemasters who basically throw out ludicrous numbers and then work with insurance to get to the actual cost paid out. How can you reasonably predict costs with that structure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 5,767 Events Team · Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Holy shit! Glad you are out and hope you have a speedy recovery. Let's grab a bite when you're feeling better. Let me know if you need anything, brother. Oh yeah, $180k. $10k a day and 30k for each kidney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californication | 1,477 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 This is depressing - feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,290 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the kind thoughts everyone! I am currently learning to walk again - my muscles pretty much surrendered after the period of non-use. It is almost like they have forgot what they are supposed to do. I am hobbling around with a walker (which is harder than people realize) and have been walking short distances without it - it is going to be a long haul to get back to normal but I am making small amounts of progress each day. My upper body strength is almost back to normal. My most excellent friend Mohamed gave me a large Sharp Raku smart tv which is at least 48" - I have to build a rack to fit in a gap I have between bookcases and then I will hook up my switch to it. ------------------------- I will leave the question up for a day or so longer and then give the answer. Edited October 27, 2021 by Tabonga 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,681 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 @Tabonga Really sorry to hear about your troubles. Stay positive, and I hope that you will have a quick recovery! As for the amount, I guessed 170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,179 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 $150? I'd just wait the 7 years and deal with bad credit until it drops off at that point. Glad to hear you're ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood | 209 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Wishing you my best, i went high at 190k. watched someone close to me spend 17 days in... the bill was unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacepup | 2,391 Administrator · Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I'm sorry to hear about all this but I'm glad to hear that you are out and on the mend! I'm sure it has been a tough adjustment so I wish you the best! I'm also (hoping) that by the bill, you mean the gross amount and not your cost. Either way it is still staggering. Be well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,290 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) OK - The prize winners are Tanooki, Astral Soul and ThePhleo at $150k. The actual bill provided to Medicare and Kaiser by the hospital was $149,418.18. Plus $500 from me (assuming I don't get dry gulched by some footpads in the near future for further amounts). So just a few bad kronor under $150k. Edited October 28, 2021 by Tabonga 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,445 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Glad to hear you're ok and that you're not bankrupt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,887 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 This is absolutely crazy, I can't believe what I'm seeing Sorry to hear about this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,925 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Yeah it's obscene, but fit what I was saying unless I had forgot something and seems I hadn't. I work an analyst roll in a QA area essentially for an insurer so with what rolls through email, etc I had a general idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,290 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 59 minutes ago, Tanooki said: Yeah it's obscene, but fit what I was saying unless I had forgot something and seems I hadn't. I work an analyst roll in a QA area essentially for an insurer so with what rolls through email, etc I had a general idea. No biggie - I just thought it would be an interesting exercise highlighting the bizarreness of our medical care system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkchylde28 | 1,546 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I honestly thought it would have been higher, seeing as my wife spent most of a week in the hospital for incredibly bad pneumonia a bunch of years back and the bill to insurance definitely topped $200K (IIRC, it was in the neighborhood of $250-275K). No ICU, no prolonged ER stay, just checking her in, putting her in a room, giving her IV meds and then, eventually, finally, when the stupid fucker wasn't busy, playing golf, the sole doctor that knew how to run the "lung sucker" machine (no clue what it's called, but that's basically all it does) came in, cleaned out her lungs over the course of like half an hour, and she immediately and drastically improved. It's as if she might have started to immediately improve sooner had the asshole not called out of work (told this quietly by the nurses on the floor) to play golf she might have improved sooner. Neither here nor there, though. Glad you came out the other side, and that your part of it wasn't remotely what plenty of folks see these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,353 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 3:54 AM, darkchylde28 said: I honestly thought it would have been higher, seeing as my wife spent most of a week in the hospital for incredibly bad pneumonia a bunch of years back and the bill to insurance definitely topped $200K (IIRC, it was in the neighborhood of $250-275K). No ICU, no prolonged ER stay, just checking her in, putting her in a room, giving her IV meds and then, eventually, finally, when the stupid fucker wasn't busy, playing golf, the sole doctor that knew how to run the "lung sucker" machine (no clue what it's called, but that's basically all it does) came in, cleaned out her lungs over the course of like half an hour, and she immediately and drastically improved. It's as if she might have started to immediately improve sooner had the asshole not called out of work (told this quietly by the nurses on the floor) to play golf she might have improved sooner. Neither here nor there, though. Glad you came out the other side, and that your part of it wasn't remotely what plenty of folks see these days. “Lung sucker” = ventilator? Anyway, that amount of cash is damn crazy considering hardly much effort was needed by the working staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkchylde28 | 1,546 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, GPX said: “Lung sucker” = ventilator? Anyway, that amount of cash is damn crazy considering hardly much effort was needed by the working staff! No, it was literally this little tool they put down your windpipe into your lungs with a tiny camera to use to operate it where they sucked the gunk out of each alveoli in each lung. They didn't do anything more to give her oxygen than slapping the same nasal tubes on her that they pretty much everybody who walks in and ends up in a room. Really, beyond hooking her to up AV saline, glucose, and antibiotics, they did fuck all until Dr. Asshole got over calling into work to play golf and did his damned job for 30 odd minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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