Bad Takes Thread

[AnimalHouse | 117]

Hmm this got me thinking, all the high value games are trapped with oxygen in there plastic prisons. Does that make the oxygen valuable? Imagine a niche market for graded oxygen. Maybe not Wata partnered with Heritage but I could see IGS getting in on the niche market. Similar to IGS grading VHS tapes.

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

12 minutes ago, AnimalHouse said:

Wow, I didn't know mold added value . J/k

Wouldn't the value drop over time because of the mold growing inside an enclosed space with trapped oxygen?

My assumption is the buyer will crack it open, remove the seal and treat the mold. They could end up with a nice CIB if they do it right.

If they keep it entombed this way… that’s on them.

Edited September 1, 2021 by MiamiSlice

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

10 minutes ago, AnimalHouse said:

Hmm this got me thinking, all the high value games are trapped with oxygen in there plastic prisons. Does that make the oxygen valuable? Imagine a niche market for graded oxygen. Maybe not Wata partnered with Heritage but I could see IGS getting in on the niche market. Similar to IGS grading VHS tapes.

Apparently the cases are not airtight.

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

Start grading gasoline folks 

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

Every thread is a cesspool now. The replies to this are the gift that keep on giving: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/phblfh/found_these_while_cleaning_my_room_what_do_i_do/

The best ones are the ones that claim you are making the game harder to sell by getting it graded. 

Edited September 4, 2021 by MiamiSlice

[tidaldreams | 654]

1 hour ago, MiamiSlice said:

Every thread is a cesspool now. The replies to this are the gift that keep on giving: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/phblfh/found_these_while_cleaning_my_room_what_do_i_do/

The best ones are the ones that claim you are making the game harder to sell by getting it graded. 

Solution is to avoid reddit. The comments are on the same level of intellect as youtube comments.

Except WSB of course. Gotta see which stonks are being pumped to gain massive tendies.

[Gulag Joe | 582]

12 hours ago, MiamiSlice said:

Every thread is a cesspool now. The replies to this are the gift that keep on giving: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/phblfh/found_these_while_cleaning_my_room_what_do_i_do/

The best ones are the ones that claim you are making the game harder to sell by getting it graded. 

I double believe comments that use the word "loose" incorrectly, those are the smartest people to listen to!

[Alder | 243]

11 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

I double believe comments that use the word "loose" incorrectly, those are the smartest people to listen to!

Twice in one comment? What a looser.

[Alder | 243]

People actually buy moldy games? I really don't understand that. I might buy a moldy cart with the plan to un-mold it.. but paper? Graded? Maybe that's my own bad take, I guess..

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

You can buy something very common for a small amount of money or you can buy something rare for a lot more money. 

[tidaldreams | 654]

41 minutes ago, MiamiSlice said:

You can buy something very common for a small amount of money or you can buy something rare for a lot more money. 

Wasn't the nintendo store selling these brand new for $60 until recently?

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

9 minutes ago, tidaldreams said:

Wasn't the nintendo store selling these brand new for $60 until recently?

I think so. Now there's only 4 Wii U games left: https://store.nintendo.com/classic-products/wii.html

[Super Nintendo Chalmers | 53]

Oh man where do you start with this. There has always been hate, ignorance and confusion towards higher ends of the hobby, been like that for decades. Cart collectors getting their jimmies rustled cos people spend extra money to own a minty CIB copy, etc. Plus hate towards collectors simply spending more money/enjoying niche levels of the hobby, its not just exclusive to new/sealed/graded games. But this WATA saga has brought all kinds of irrational and illogical people out under their rocks. 

I know places like Reddit, Youtube, Instagram and many generalist retro Facebook groups attract a fair few casual collectors, but its amazing to see just how foolish people are. Where have you been and why are you shocked at the increased interest in the hobby? It ain't 2005 anymore or for that matter 2015. These people wouldn't even buy said titles but are using the video as a vehicle for their own confirmation bias,  many have eaten up the narratives pushed in the video hook, line and sinker and fail to comprehend varying levels of the market.

I like that a fellow Aussie in Karl is in the mainstream, if you will and there were a handful of good points and coverage raised in the video, but it lacked a lot of substance with unsubstatinated info. You can acknowledge WATA's skeletons in their closet, be neutral in the situation and not like new/sealed/graded games. While at the same time also begrudingly acknowledge that there is an organic, transparent market for new/sealed/graded games which has been bubbling along the past few years. So many delusional pearlers, hyperbole, misinformation and lack of comprehension on said platforms, there is nuance and layers to it all which so many just don't get.
 

 

Edited September 10, 2021 by Super Nintendo Chalmers

[inasuma | 1,203]

On 9/3/2021 at 9:29 PM, MiamiSlice said:

Every thread is a cesspool now. The replies to this are the gift that keep on giving: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/phblfh/found_these_while_cleaning_my_room_what_do_i_do/

The best ones are the ones that claim you are making the game harder to sell by getting it graded. 

I saw this comment and almost died. “Don’t listen to what these boneheads say but also WATA is manipulating the market!!!!”  

 

[tidaldreams | 654]

1 hour ago, Super Nintendo Chalmers said:

Oh man where do you start with this. There has always been hate, ignorance and confusion towards higher ends of the hobby, been like that for decades. Cart collectors getting their jimmies rustled cos people spend extra money to own a minty CIB copy, etc. Plus hate towards collectors simply spending more money/enjoying niche levels of the hobby, its not just exclusive to new/sealed/graded games. But this WATA saga has brought all kinds of irrational and illogical people out under their rocks. 

I know places like Reddit, Youtube, Instagram and many generalist retro Facebook groups attract a fair few casual collectors, but its amazing to see just how foolish people are. Where have you been and why are you shocked at the increased interest in the hobby? It ain't 2005 anymore or for that matter 2015. These people wouldn't even buy said titles but are using the video as a vehicle for their own confirmation bias,  many have eaten up the narratives pushed in the video hook, line and sinker and fail to comprehend varying levels of the market.

I like that a fellow Aussie in Karl is in the mainstream, if you will and there were a handful of good points and coverage raised in the video, but it lacked a lot of substance with unsubstatinated info. You can acknowledge WATA's skeletons in their closet, be neutral in the situation and not like new/sealed/graded games. While at the same time also begrudingly acknowledge that there is an organic, transparent market for new/sealed/graded games which has been bubbling along the past few years. So many delusional pearlers, hyperbole, misinformation and lack of comprehension on said platforms, there is nuance and layers to it all which so many just don't get.
 

 

Anyone who has been collecting games for years could've seen this coming from a mile a way. Just look up the historical price chart of your favorite vintage game on pricecharting.com as see what the trend is. Did Covid/WATA/HA accelerate the growth? Probably, but it would've happened eventually.

My only regret is not pumping even more money into my video game addiction in years past 

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

4 hours ago, tidaldreams said:

My only regret is not pumping even more money into my video game addiction in years past 

Same!

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

Saw this a week ago and forgot to share it here. It's satire but I've heard this exact sentiment many times, not just in video games. 

 

[Gulag Joe | 582]

9 hours ago, MiamiSlice said:

Saw this a week ago and forgot to share it here. It's satire but I've heard this exact sentiment many times, not just in video games. 

 

Better hope nobody makes a YouTube video about it or else they're REALLY scammin!

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

Back from hiatus with some scorching hot takes! 

Lol close enough I guess.

None of these games are ending up in collectors’ hands folks! It’s a war out there! Also I’d love to be “prayed” on, I’ve got problems that need solving.

Oh and at least one person is starting to think critically… but he doesn’t like it.

 

Edited September 24, 2021 by MiamiSlice

[GPX | 1,369]

5 hours ago, MiamiSlice said:

Back from hiatus with some scorching hot takes! 

Lol close enough I guess.

None of these games are ending up in collectors’ hands folks! It’s a war out there! Also I’d love to be “prayed” on, I’ve got problems that need solving.

Oh and at least one person is starting to think critically… but he doesn’t like it.

 

To be fair, with that 50% price drop, it’s hard to know what is a good or bad take as it currently stands. You can argue that people have the right to feel more reserved since the price isn’t stable. It’s also not the 50% drop that’s the concern here, but the fact you could potentially loose out on 750K if you blindly buy a game on these auction sites..

The only thing I can conclude from your recent post is that:

- if someone is paying 800K for their money laundry, then that’s definitely market manipulation in the laundry business! 

[AnimalHouse | 117]

This is why I never bid over 3 digits. Yes, I know I am cheap. I can live with several hundred dollars loss but not like $750,000-$800,000. Yikes, no!

[inasuma | 1,203]

some games are common sealed therefore pristine copies shouldn't be worth anything

duh

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

3 hours ago, GPX said:

To be fair, with that 50% price drop, it’s hard to know what is a good or bad take as it currently stands. You can argue that people have the right to feel more reserved since the price isn’t stable. It’s also not the 50% drop that’s the concern here, but the fact you could potentially loose out on 750K if you blindly buy a game on these auction sites..

Of course there’s a risk paying $1.5 M for a game on the assumption that it’s a 1 of 1. Another one came along and that changed the perceived value. But the bad take is assuming that the buyer who paid $1.5 M is devastated by this. 

[OptOut | 8,881]

11 minutes ago, MiamiSlice said:

Of course there’s a risk paying $1.5 M for a game on the assumption that it’s a 1 of 1. Another one came along and that changed the perceived value. But the bad take is assuming that the buyer who paid $1.5 M is devastated by this. 

Oh, it's GOTTA sting tho, at least a little... Even if it's not the money, it's the fact they were wrong!

I sometimes make small purchasing decisions that I regret, things like buying a game in worse condition than I thought, or buying a game impulsively that I find I could have gotten a little cheaper.

It's never the money that bothers me, it's making the mistake that sits wrong with me. 

Imagining if I had bought that Mario 64, how much I was wrong, and how publicly wrong I was if I had bought that, well... 

[MiamiSlice | 3,089]

8 minutes ago, OptOut said:

Oh, it's GOTTA sting tho, at least a little... Even if it's not the money, it's the fact they were wrong!

I sometimes make small purchasing decisions that I regret, things like buying a game in worse condition than I thought, or buying a game impulsively that I find I could have gotten a little cheaper.

It's never the money that bothers me, it's making the mistake that sits wrong with me. 

Imagining if I had bought that Mario 64, how much I was wrong, and how publicly wrong I was if I had bought that, well... 

This is someone who can afford to spend $1.5 M on a single item. I’m very confident they don’t think like you. It’s the old saying… “the rich are different.”