phart010 | 1,705 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 hours ago, _Brink_ said: I won the SML -2. Only 12 away from completing the variants list on this thread now (not including NFR's - havent gone for those at this point). Thanks for the collective info over the years guys!! I was thinking about bidding but I figured someone here was after it so didn’t want to fight for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,705 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 10:44 PM, JVOSS said: even looking at the board data for B&T is only 7 week apart. 9138 9129 Lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Check this out. I picked this up today. I know the chances are low that this is legitimate but I wanted to get it anyways because it's either a really good label transfer which usually easy to spot, a reproduction label, or some bizarre error that is legitimate. I tried finding some label reproductions and was able to find some on etsy.. but they are different and very easy to tell that it's a reproduction. I've included that picture for comparison. This label also has the numbers stamped on the front. I've never seen that reproduced but I suppose it could be. Have you guys seen the stamped numbers reproduced? That's why I was thinking someone just took the label off the gameboy color black cartridge and put it on the gray cart. That would be a very weird thing to do and also you can usually tell that someone did this because the process is not easy/perfect. I'll have to wait until it show up to check the board. Is any one familiar with the rom differences between the US gray release of bomberman gb, the US black of bomberman pocket , and the eur gray and black release of bomberman pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,757 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, samsamsamsmasmasma said: Check this out. I picked this up today. I know the chances are low that this is legitimate but I wanted to get it anyways because it's either a really good label transfer which usually easy to spot, a reproduction label, or some bizarre error that is legitimate. I tried finding some label reproductions and was able to find some on etsy.. but they are different and very easy to tell that it's a reproduction. I've included that picture for comparison. This label also has the numbers stamped on the front. I've never seen that reproduced but I suppose it could be. Have you guys seen the stamped numbers reproduced? That's why I was thinking someone just took the label off the gameboy color black cartridge and put it on the gray cart. That would be a very weird thing to do and also you can usually tell that someone did this because the process is not easy/perfect. I'll have to wait until it show up to check the board. Is any one familiar with the rom differences between the US gray release of bomberman gb, the US black of bomberman pocket , and the eur gray and black release of bomberman pocket? the lower pic is a fake the code DNKG is used by a group out of china. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JVOSS said: the lower pic is a fake the code DNKG is used by a group out of china. I was just providing that picture because it was the only example of a reproduction label that I could find. I was trying to determine if there are reproduction labels out there for sale that match closer to the one I purchased to see if someone had just placed it on a gray cartridge at some point but I could not find anything closer. To be more clear.. The cartridge that I have has what seems to be an authentic label of pocket bomberman. This label was only officially released in the US on gameboy color (black cartridge) Is the label a reproduction? Is the label transfered from a black cartridge using a heat gun? Is the label a legitimate error? Pocket bomberman is the same game as bomberman GB but was resold on the gameboy color. There seems to be a EUR gray and black cart version of pocket bomberman. Curious what the rom differences are to determine which rom is on the cartridge that I have Edited April 25, 2023 by samsamsamsmasmasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,818 Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 Oh, I miss understood. I think we have a black/blue vs white/gold dress situation going on here. I didn't want to say anything because at a glance I thought they were suppose to be the same cartridge and I knew the second was fake. But now that I understand, I think the first image is a black cartridge but with a bright light that's making the plastic glare and giving it a grayish tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, RH said: Oh, I miss understood. I think we have a black/blue vs white/gold dress situation going on here. I didn't want to say anything because at a glance I thought they were suppose to be the same cartridge and I knew the second was fake. But now that I understand, I think the first image is a black cartridge but with a bright light that's making the plastic glare and giving it a grayish tone. Haha you may be right. That would be kind of a bummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,818 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 This one use to be really tough to find, but it seems to pop up every 6 months or so. Anyway, if any of you are still looking for a Sunsoft Lock-N-Chase, here's another one. I can't tell about the condition from the images, but with a light cleaning, it looks like it might be a nice copy. It's in the best quality I've seen in a long time, but definitely not mint. https://www.ebay.com/itm/125945619071 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,818 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 4/25/2023 at 3:36 PM, samsamsamsmasmasma said: Check this out. I picked this up today. I know the chances are low that this is legitimate but I wanted to get it anyways because it's either a really good label transfer which usually easy to spot, a reproduction label, or some bizarre error that is legitimate. I tried finding some label reproductions and was able to find some on etsy.. but they are different and very easy to tell that it's a reproduction. I've included that picture for comparison. This label also has the numbers stamped on the front. I've never seen that reproduced but I suppose it could be. Have you guys seen the stamped numbers reproduced? That's why I was thinking someone just took the label off the gameboy color black cartridge and put it on the gray cart. That would be a very weird thing to do and also you can usually tell that someone did this because the process is not easy/perfect. I'll have to wait until it show up to check the board. Is any one familiar with the rom differences between the US gray release of bomberman gb, the US black of bomberman pocket , and the eur gray and black release of bomberman pocket? So... did your purchase turn out to be a Black Cart Bomber man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,757 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, RH said: This one use to be really tough to find, but it seems to pop up every 6 months or so. Anyway, if any of you are still looking for a Sunsoft Lock-N-Chase, here's another one. I can't tell about the condition from the images, but with a light cleaning, it looks like it might be a nice copy. It's in the best quality I've seen in a long time, but definitely not mint. https://www.ebay.com/itm/125945619071 THAT IS A DAMN GOOD PRICE... i paid more the 600 for both of mine.. lol times are a changing now.. let hope this is the sign of things to come in gb market. still have 1600 for the world set. getting closer each day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It was just a black cartridge that I thought was grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie | 1 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) Hello All, First and foremost BIG SHOUT-OUT to DK for selling me a Bill & Ted correct logo! I'm not the hardcore collector like some of you, dumped a ton of money into my comic book collection, so the idea of 2-4 carts per single game and having the complete box is mind-blowing! hahaha So Ive fallen into the single cart, alternative version. I have star wars - red logo, Ghostbusters 2 - black label etc.....That being said, this group is amazing and Ive learned a LOT about gameboy games. If you read through that, good man! If not, all good. lol Im here to ask is this a legit variant? 1. THE LOST WORLD - Ive only seen GREEN so i picked up this BLUE. I think its sun faded (green fades to blue) but the center logo is still clear and a decent black ink. Let me know your thoughts gang. Again, I appreciate you all sharing your hard earned information and insight. Thank you. 2. Spiderman 2 black cart with USA label, only ever seen standard GBC clear cart. My guess is European release with USA tag? - Still on eBay (400.00 for lot) WV Edited June 19, 2023 by Newbie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid | 413 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Jurassic Park is 100% faded The spider man is fake the label is custom the us and eu releases don't have a image the Fra one does but it's different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie | 1 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Thank you Hybrid. Yeah, I concur Lost world is faded. Totally impulse purchase on that one. Amazing how you can spot that fake spiderman so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splain | 2,547 Editorials Team · Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Got my ones of these: Now I have all 508 USA GB games, according to unique product codes, lol. I asked the sellers where these came from. The Red seller, located in Texas, originally got it from "a collector in San Antonio," so that's good for the "Spanish-speaking states" theory. The Blue seller was in Pennsylvania and doesn't know where it originally came from. I wonder if these ran briefly and then they started using the LTN code instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,818 Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 8 hours ago, Splain said: Got my ones of these: Now I have all 508 USA GB games, according to unique product codes, lol. I asked the sellers where these came from. The Red seller, located in Texas, originally got it from "a collector in San Antonio," so that's good for the "Spanish-speaking states" theory. The Blue seller was in Pennsylvania and doesn't know where it originally came from. I wonder if these ran briefly and then they started using the LTN code instead? Honestly it makes me more skeptical. It's not right on the border, but it is one the closest big city in Texas to Mexico. I know some people will shop in Mexico for stuff just because it's cheaper. Did this guy say he was an original owner, or did he just pick it up locally. If he got it from some place like an Electronic Boutique, but used, then that means it doesn't support the proof of anything, to be honest. I'm not saying my border states theory is wrong, but I won't believe it until I see some proof. Maybe if 10-20 of these pop up and they all come from places like Texas, New Mexico and Southern Florida, it might give it credence but for the time I'm standing with the "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Another reason why I have a tough time believing this is what happened is that I don't recall any game (GB/GBC/GBA) from that ear having a dual-language release in the US. I know Pokeman was HUGE and all, but this is, IMHO, one of the oddest Nintendo releases if that's what happened. Still, once I knock out a few variant goals, I might start looking for these as well. I may not feel like they are US titles but there's no harm in having them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,757 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 i have a set myself. they was from 2 different ebay sealers. ok so now we have 2 sets here we need to examine all aspects of them. @Splain can you open and your up and send some pics? ill do the same here later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) I've been looking for a set with no luck yet. Found a ltn red though I noticed the esrb logo is white on the ltn red and black on the newly found set so it would be weird if they switched to the ltn after this set @Splain as in the other label variant cases the black esrb logos were released later in the production run Edited August 2, 2023 by samsamsamsmasmasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splain | 2,547 Editorials Team · Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 11:30 AM, samsamsamsmasmasma said: I've been looking for a set with no luck yet. Found a ltn red though I noticed the esrb logo is white on the ltn red and black on the newly found set so it would be weird if they switched to the ltn after this set @Splain as in the other label variant cases the black esrb logos were released later in the production run Ah, that's a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,757 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) On 8/2/2023 at 11:30 AM, samsamsamsmasmasma said: I've been looking for a set with no luck yet. Found a ltn red though I noticed the esrb logo is white on the ltn red and black on the newly found set so it would be weird if they switched to the ltn after this set @Splain as in the other label variant cases the black esrb logos were released later in the production run now really sure what your talking about the LTN have NO ESRB not produced for sale in USA.. with the SPANISH USA's are ESRB because they were produced for sale in the USA. Edited August 12, 2023 by JVOSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,757 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Thank you all for following this crazy ride. Well there is a new label variant to be chasing. pleased to introduce the DMG-SS-USA (TM)...... DMG-SS-USA (tm) Edited August 13, 2023 by JVOSS 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,757 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 after looking over all the extra carts in the collection and the help of VGG Community. a total of 9 new cart are added to the TM/R OSQ list. here is the list.DMG-TR-USA (TM) DMG-BB-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-SS-USA (TM) DMG-BS-USA (TM) DMG-MX-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-TN-USA (TM) DMG-AW-USA (TM) DMG-ML-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-CV-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-PB-USA (TM) ---VGG Community enjoy. only 25 more to check.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 12:48 AM, JVOSS said: Thank you all for following this crazy ride. Well there is a new label variant to be chasing. pleased to introduce the DMG-SS-USA (TM)...... DMG-SS-USA (tm) Nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,818 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 13 hours ago, JVOSS said: after looking over all the extra carts in the collection and the help of VGG Community. a total of 9 new cart are added to the TM/R OSQ list. here is the list.DMG-TR-USA (TM) DMG-BB-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-SS-USA (TM) DMG-BS-USA (TM) DMG-MX-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-TN-USA (TM) DMG-AW-USA (TM) DMG-ML-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-CV-USA (TM) ---VGG Community DMG-PB-USA (TM) ---VGG Community enjoy. only 25 more to check.. What/where is the "VGG Community"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,757 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, RH said: What/where is the "VGG Community"? Website : www.videogamegalaxy.com Discord : https://discord.gg/8r8gvp5KaU Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/VGGcollectibles Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/video.game.galaxy/ Edited August 15, 2023 by JVOSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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