Strange | 1,743 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I’m looking at getting a Mega SG but I’m curious how getting these consoles has affected other people’s gaming habits. Seems like a good option to have when you don't have a CRT available - traveling, friends’ houses, etc. But have any of these (Analogue, RetroAVS) replaced original hardware for you? If not, why? Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,133 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) I play all of my NES games on the AVS and I'm happy with it. I thought about getting a Super NT for SNES, but I got a HDMI cable for my 1 chip console and I was satisfied enough with the picture quality to stick with the original hardware. Edited April 17, 2020 by Bearcat-Doug Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln | 230 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 When i want to play nes games, i go to the avs. My primary tv is a flatscreen and the avs is better suited than a front loader. There's generally no need for me to hook up the original. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,771 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I also use the AVS. Not just for the HDTV abilities, though that is nice, but the other features. Since it has a Famicom slot, I've been getting into Famicom games. There's a ton of great games we never got. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,743 Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, Tulpa said: I also use the AVS. Not just for the HDTV abilities, though that is nice, but the other features. Since it has a Famicom slot, I've been getting into Famicom games. There's a ton of great games we never got. That’s another reason I want the Mega SG - It takes Mega Drives games, and I can also play Game Gear games on my TV and historical oddities like the SG-1000 Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
profholt82 | 60 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I have a Mega SG and AVS in my living room hooked up to our main 4k tv, and I do probably 90% of my NES and Genesis gaming on that setup nowadays. I love it. I still have all of my original consoles hooked up in my basement mancave area and occasionally play something on the NES or Genesis down there, but usually if the Genesis is involved it will be Sega CD or 32x down there because unhooking that whole mess to play via the Mega SG just sounds exhausting. I recently ordered a Super NT, and look forward to adding that to the living room set up. Huge FPGA proponent here. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,693 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I've gone all-in on FPGAs and I couldn't be happier. I mostly just play NES on my Analogue Nt, but I also have a Super Nt and Mega Sg and fire them up occasionally. I am not a speedrunner, so I don't even keep the original consoles or CRT around anymore. Also, I love the super sharp, pixelated look of classic games on my OLED. I don't ever wanna go back. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,256 Events Team · Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Another convert here. AVS on the 60". It's beautiful, really. Still wish I had a 19" tube from time to time for zapper and proper nostalgia. Not gonna happen tho. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber | 54 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I have an AVS and Super NT and they're both excellent systems and I definitely recommend them. Will probably be grabbing the Mega SG in the next few weeks as well because I've wanted to play some Genesis and my original console has been kind of spotty lately. That said I still typically play on CRT. It just feels more authentic to me and adds to the overall experience. But if I have friends or family over and we wanna play some old games I'm usually just doing it on a FPGA system for the convenience factor. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,771 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, JamesRobot said: Still wish I had a 19" tube from time to time for zapper and proper nostalgia. Not gonna happen tho. Can't help with the nostalgia, but the NES LCD Mod works well for me. 1 Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,256 Events Team · Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tulpa said: Can't help with the nostalgia, but the NES LCD Mod works well for me. It's not too bad. Really don't dig the Zapp gun tho. And my attempt to mod a Zapper with the Zapp guts failed miserably. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,256 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I'm sure you saw my anti-CRT post considering how poor I find the visuals and the loss of detail due to them being SD. Over the last few years I've worked toward an HDMI solution and as such I have the HiDefNES Kit in my toploader NES, a SuperNT for SNES, the UltraHDMI in my N64, and the external GC2HDMI device on my Gamecube's digital port. Beyond that I've got both Nintendo and Sega's HDMI mini systems too. When and if ever an affordable device is made for PC Engine(or PCE Duo) then that's next. How are they? Utterly fantastic and nails it on the nose every time without fault at least for what I use on them (my original games, and flash kits too.) The visuals and audio are crystal clear and clean much like playing it on a PC the last 20 years. The allowed enhancement that they expose to the games that were ghosted and blended on old RCA cables with 2D is obvious. The 3D side though on Gamecube is nothing but depressing when you see how much was sadly lost on games the HDMI adapter allows to resurface. There really is no loss here outside of light gun games if you're really hard up for those and even those are slowly getting work arounds through patched roms and hacker jobs people are cooking up. So do I use my old stuff? As intended, no, but considering the NES and N64 got modified, and I shelved the multi-av cable on my Cube, sure yes I do. But my original style NES Action Set and SNES Donkey Kong Super Set, they're back in the box being well preserved as complete packages. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCode | 159 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Tanooki said: I'm sure you saw my anti-CRT post considering how poor I find the visuals and the loss of detail due to them being SD. You do realize that the source material is SD, right? Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cepp | 34 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Must admit I am tempted by the AVS. I'm using an OSSC with my RGB NES anyway but have no way to fully enjoy games like Just Breed on it. Edited April 18, 2020 by Cepp Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,526 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 +1 AVS. I play on a 55” inch over HDMI and it’s glorious. Hitting start and select at the same time to rage quit mega man is also a good feature Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCode | 159 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Anybody got a Mister? I feel like that via RGB through a CRT while using OG controllers seems pretty awesome. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,771 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Someone on NintendoAge, before it went into the toilet, said they owned one. I forget who, but they liked it. I think they were using Kevtris's cores. Edited April 19, 2020 by Tulpa Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye | 1,604 Homebrew Team · Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, MachineCode said: Anybody got a Mister? I feel like that via RGB through a CRT while using OG controllers seems pretty awesome. I believe @zeppelin03 has a Mister. Don't know if it is set up with a CRT though. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelin03 | 314 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Deadeye said: I believe @zeppelin03 has a Mister. Don't know if it is set up with a CRT though. I have my mister hooked up to a flat panel. I didn't go for the IO board as I only have a small 14" tube for the built in VCR. I can say that on a modern tv using bluetooth or 2.4ghz the experience is great. Games feel very responsive on any cores I have used. The scaling options as well as filters make the image look fantastic. It's feels comparable to a real console on a modern screen under ideal conditions. Can assume that would carry to a CRT/PVM as well. It has replaced many of my old options included RGB modded consoles and the Super NT. For probably $225 I have a unit that plays so many consoles and arcades. I really hope we get a PS1 core so I can play SOTN with these scanlines! Edited April 19, 2020 by zeppelin03 Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,256 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, MachineCode said: You do realize that the source material is SD, right? Depends on the system you're talking about. I mean sure the output is definitely capped at 240 or 480 with the older stuff, but the actual assets can be crystal clear and sharper than you could even hope to imagine on an old TV because the materials are not made on that. For instance, take the Rogue Squadron 2 game on the Cube. That one, the assets are borrowed from the later 90s Star Wars movie remasters. Put up the visuals of the opening sequence with the x-wings etc, and also the Hoth bit with you in a speeder chase cam too. Google image search it, preferably a youtube 720 or better visual display. The SD version even with the $300 Gamecube cables loses a good bit of detail, largely on RCA/RF level, but on HDMI, ever scorch mark, every seam, every rivet, every little singular thin fanblade on the back of the speeder are all there. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,331 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) i own an avs. I dont use it very often. it never had a chance against my original nes and crt. the avs is a very nice piece though. its just too different for me. i perfer the look of a crt, pro or consumer. rf and composite are fine. component and rgb are fantastic. hdmi and lcd for 240p. no thanks. i would probably enjoy my avs more if i had a nice lcd to use it with. the problem is the two lcd tvs i have create to much input lag for me to ignore aspect ratio is another minor issue and the optional scanline filter is cool but its just not the same thing. i would say if you dont have room for original hardware and a crt tv the avs is a great option. Edited April 19, 2020 by skinnygrinny spelled too wrong Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest4Nes | 377 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 AVS MegaSG SuperNT They are all incredible. Well worth it. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bALEXc | 1 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I own the AVS, Super NT, and Mega SG and I am very satisfied with each of them. Well worth the price. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelin03 | 314 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 The most recent update MISTer included some compatibility for PC Engine CD. Must be a core coming soon. Looking forward to adding Rondo to my setup. Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,743 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 I just pulled the trigger on a Mega SG. Looking forward to it, thanks for the input everyone. I hope at some point in the future they restock the Super NT because I’d love an FPGA SNES at some point too. 1 Link to comment https://www.videogamesage.com/forums/topic/3340-those-of-you-who-have-an-fpga-console-how-is-it-do-you-still-play-on-original-hardware/#findComment-69893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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