ThePhleo 2,117 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/stadium-events?gameid=608 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/little-samson?gameid=382 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/panic-restaurant?gameid=473 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/flintstones-the-surprise-at-dinosaur-peak?gameid=242 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/hot-slots?gameid=298 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/donkey-kong-jr-math-5-screw?gameid=877 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/mr-gimmick-pal?gameid=800 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/sqoon-5-screw?gameid=924 https://gamevaluenow.com/nintendo-nes/peek-a-boo-poker?gameid=476 What's going on here? Seems like there's a flaw in the price algorithm on GVN. I'm concerned there's some manual manipulation going on though because it only seems to be top tier items. I wonder if they're planning on making the prices higher than they're supposed to be and this is a glitch in their testing :V Edited April 15, 2020 by ThePhleo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.G. CIB 394 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Man..... GVN has gone to the dumps IMO. There is always some issue and they try to place the blame on previous programming which is bs. Let’s see what excuse it is now. I saw this the other day and didn’t even bother to post it in disgust on how this site has been handled since it was sold. Not perfect by far but the best tool out there for the average collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves 11,180 Administrator · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I doubt it's manual manipulation, it simply makes no sense to make it looks at a glance like Stadium Events is $12. I'll let @Magus tell us whatever he feels comfortable (if anything) saying publicly. Not that he's beholden to do so or anything, I just don't want to speak for GoCollect personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH 4,545 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Yeah, I noticed this a couple of days ago. You'll notice in the longer prices lists that many games are listed for "$1". It seems like the real culprit is that they have some form of value, something in the algorithm is borked (probably a divide-by-zero) and when that error is caught, they just output $1 instead of "No Data" or even $0. Personally, I would have output $0, because it should be obvious that that's not legit. However, when you see $1 on a rare item, you stop for a moment and want to check to see if someone got lucky. It's not likely but not 100% impossible. I also noticed Sunday night that if you clicked on some of these pages, you'd get a page load error for that specific game. It was spotty though. Pages that wouldn't load properly would load 10 minutes later, but with that broken $1 value. So somethings not working. Hopefully they know this and are fixing it. The real issue I've taken with them is that they aren't seemingly adding new games, or they weren't for a long time. I haven't kept up with my Switch catalog because for a while they didn't have many of the games that were new within the last year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa 3,268 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 The bubble finally burst! *buying complete set* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A. 1,139 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Trust me guys, the sooner you write off anything owned by GoCollect the happier you will be. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiSlice 3,016 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 PriceCharting chugs along quietly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiSlice 3,016 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Also WTB Shantae GBC CIB looking to pay $25 that's 25x market price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardhead 2,723 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, B.A. said: Trust me guys, the sooner you write off anything owned by GoCollect the happier you will be. What about sponsored by? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut 8,629 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Tulpa said: The bubble finally burst! *buying complete set* Not so fast! Whoever's selling to this guy, I'll double his price! And if he doubles again, well damnit I'll triple! Who's got the compressed air and heat pump? We've got a bubble to reinflate, stat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa 3,268 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, B.A. said: Trust me guys, the sooner you write off anything owned by GoCollect the happier you will be. It's really impressive the swath of destruction they've been able to accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves 11,180 Administrator · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Richardhead said: What about sponsored by? *laughs in insider information* 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowser 597 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Isn't it suspicious how only the graded stuff still has the correct numbers? Did they get a bunch of sealed games from Dain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeevan 8,763 Events Helper · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Hmmmm.........Time to get a stadium events for the low price and speculate the price to rise What a world we live in. Might have to quote these prices on future transactions. Edited April 15, 2020 by Jeevan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone 1,281 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 GVN has been a joke for the last month or two (at least, likely longer). Crashes all over, lists not loading and now this is icing on the cake. I only use PC and eBay completed these days. PC algorithm wasn't quite as good as GVN but it is infinitely better than the site these days. Also use watchcount for the actual sale price of a OBO item if it was within the last 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sign Collector Guy 334 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 12 hours ago, B.A. said: Trust me guys, the sooner you write off anything owned by GoCollect the happier you will be. Truer words have never been spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Feisty_Pickle 244 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Looks like PriceCharting is having some issues too. First time I've seen 'future sales' XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 1,676 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 19 hours ago, Gloves said: I doubt it's manual manipulation, it simply makes no sense to make it looks at a glance like Stadium Events is $12. I'll let @Magus tell us whatever he feels comfortable (if anything) saying publicly. Not that he's beholden to do so or anything, I just don't want to speak for GoCollect personally. Manipulation or not, you can’t deny that there’s a clear conflict of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar 1,946 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Sorry but GVN was always trash. Pricecharting > GVN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar 1,946 Member · Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 As for what could actually be going on is that the algorithm is picking up on repro purchases on eBay and Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut 8,629 Member · Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Makar said: As for what could actually be going on is that the algorithm is picking up on repro purchases on eBay and Amazon. Repros don't sell for a dollar tho, and even if they did they wouldn't be able to fully drag down the average price like that. I think it's clearly Jeff sending a message to all us lowly cart and CIB collectors: the only video games worth a damn are sealed and graded games and all your other crappy trinkets belong in the garbage! Come on over to heritage auctions, where REAL video games are sold! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar 1,946 Member · Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 14 hours ago, OptOut said: Repros don't sell for a dollar tho, and even if they did they wouldn't be able to fully drag down the average price like that. I think it's clearly Jeff sending a message to all us lowly cart and CIB collectors: the only video games worth a damn are sealed and graded games and all your other crappy trinkets belong in the garbage! Come on over to heritage auctions, where REAL video games are sold! Lol exactly. There's nothing wrong with collecting loose and CIB. Mine are split. CIB for GameCube, Wii, switch, PSP, DS and 3ds. Loose for nes, snes, n64, gbc, and GBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus 169 Member · Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Thanks for bringing this up @ThePhleo and your list actually helped us narrow it down. It should be fixed now. For those worried about the integrity, I can assure you guys it was nothing more than a programming/calculation error that happened during some new changes going on in the backend. If you noticed over the last few weeks there were 500 server errors for almost every game, and a major server issue the month before that had the site down for 2 weeks. Those were temporarily fixed and this must have been an unexpected side effect of whatever was changed to fix it. Just figured i would update for the people interested, and that we are hoping to be at the finish line with some major changes to the backend and all of these headaches behind us soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut 8,629 Member · Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Announcing Exciting Changes for Gamevaluenow, huh? What could possibly go wrong?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH 4,545 Member · Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 @Magus, quick question for you. How often does the prices on our collections update vs. the prices on the main site? I've noticed that the prices on my games in the tracker seem to have a significant lag, or they've simply not been updated in a long time. Any idea what's going on? Does it strictly update tracker prices once every month or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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