CodysGameRoom | 2,008 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, MovieTom said: They cancelled both but since CJ was already made, they sold it in the area that produced better sales for them: Europe. Highly probable in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,705 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Still kicking myself. I saw cj elephant fugitive on eBay a few years ago for $40. I thought about it for a few minutes and then decided to grab it. But in those few minutes it sold Edited January 7, 2020 by phart010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgCollector | 900 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The truth is much less fun. Codemaster printed and assembled all their games in the UK (both USA and Europe release versions) and shipped them to distributors. CJ had very poor sales in the USA and the remaining print run was sold in the UK. This is true of most of their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, RpgCollector said: The truth is much less fun. Codemaster printed and assembled all their games in the UK (both USA and Europe release versions) and shipped them to distributors. CJ had very poor sales in the USA and the remaining print run was sold in the UK. This is true of most of their games. I’m not saying this isn’t true but how do you know this is for sure correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgCollector | 900 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Just what I gathered from my research. European box is more rare than the USA box because they had a ton of USA to sell. Edited January 8, 2020 by RpgCollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgCollector | 900 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 USA Barcode is: 767649160143 UPC 12 digits long European Barcode is: 5024866170146 EAN 13 digits long Case closed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart69 | 124 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Beat me to it. Here are mine. Edited January 8, 2020 by Braveheart69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodysGameRoom | 2,008 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 @RpgCollector @Braveheart69 Where did you guys purchase your copies? Directly from a retailer in the 90s, or second hand during latter collecting years? I ask because there's proof the USA box was sold in the UK (see above for a photo of the "USA" box with a UK price sticker on it) and we've seen before where something has a barcode printed on it but is wrapped in cellophane with a different regions barcode sticker on the cellophane, covering the original barcode. I still have doubt that the game actually made it to the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, CodysGameRoom said: @RpgCollector @Braveheart69 Where did you guys purchase your copies? Directly from a retailer in the 90s, or second hand during latter collecting years? I ask because there's proof the USA box was sold in the UK (see above for a photo of the "USA" box with a UK price sticker on it) and we've seen before where something has a barcode printed on it but is wrapped in cellophane with a different regions barcode sticker on the cellophane, covering the original barcode. I still have doubt that the game actually made it to the states. As the old saying goes, if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, did it make a sound? Along those lines, if a company makes 5,000 copies to sell in the US but only releases them in the UK, is it a US copy, just distributed outside the US, or is it an odd UK variant? Why are there so many, hard philosophical questions in game collecting?! Edited January 8, 2020 by RH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodysGameRoom | 2,008 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, RH said: As the old saying goes, if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, did it make a sound? Along those lines, if a company makes 5,000 copies to sell in the US but only releases them in the UK, is it a US copy, just distributed outside the US, or is it an odd UK variant? Why are there so many, hard philosophical questions in game collecting?! haha. I mean, I have my copy, regardless, I'm set whether or not. I still lean to the side of including it as part of the set. But I'm very curious. I wonder if anyone who used to work for Codemasters would know for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CodysGameRoom said: haha. I mean, I have my copy, regardless, I'm set whether or not. I still lean to the side of including it as part of the set. But I'm very curious. I wonder if anyone who used to work for Codemasters would know for sure... The funny thing is I actually tried to search LinkedIn to see if I could connect with anyone just yesterday. I went through a bunch of names associated with the company today, but I didn't see any "grey beards". I doubt theirs many people still their from the 90s. Unfortunately, LinkedIn does not provide a good way to search through companies and former employees. I don't use Facebook. Maybe they have a way of searching organizations by date ranges. Edited January 8, 2020 by RH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) So which one of you jokers got that CIB C J Elephant today? It would have been me but I couldn't get the seller to take my BO before someone bought it. I got them down to $175 but I was trying for a bit less because it would have literally cleared out my game funds. Edited April 28, 2020 by RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigly1234 | 110 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 I wish it was me but it wasn’t! Completely missed the listing. I have 0 cod masters games so far but I’m at 170 total for the set so far so progress! how much were they asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Craigly1234 said: how much were they asking? Started at $200 with BO. I have a bank account I use for game collecting. I put a hold on using extra funds to buy games while I've been working to get a new job. If I could have literally gotten the seller to do about $5 cheaper than their final offer, I would have gotten that game. I'd have no collecting funds, but I'd finally have a game I'd been looking for, for a long time. You should check out the sellers other items. It's a bunch rare GG stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigly1234 | 110 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, RH said: Started at $200 with BO. I have a bank account I use for game collecting. I put a hold on using extra funds to buy games while I've been working to get a new job. If I could have literally gotten the seller to do about $5 cheaper than their final offer, I would have gotten that game. I'd have no collecting funds, but I'd finally have a game I'd been looking for, for a long time. You should check out the sellers other items. It's a bunch rare GG stuff. Ohhh seller link please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Here's the CJ Elephant: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CJ-Elephant-Fugitive-Sega-Game-Gear-/274348730014?_trkparms=gh1g%3DI274348730014.N105.S2.typeCOUNTER_OFFER_DECLINED.R3.TR5&boolp=1&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=OqV22YgMzQtXMYzDCxObI6xu%2FLs%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc And the sellers page:https://www.ebay.com/usr/ashleysgamecloset?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 *Get's out my signal horn* NECRO BUMP! Well, a couple of days ago I made this purchase. https://www.ebay.com/itm/386749355472 A CIB, Fantastic Dizzy for $135, shipped. Note, the box appears to be UK but since I've seen absolutely no evidence that Fantastic Dizzy's cart had the purple bar, I'm assuming this as a US item, even if it was sold in the US. But with that said, it's been almost 4 years since the last post on here. Have any of you guys unearthed any new info about these CodeMaster games? Was I hoodwinked and I have a UK-only version and no one has posted a purple-barred Fantastic Dizzy? I know I've seen the purple-bar boxes, but I've not seen a Fantastic Dizzy cartridge label in the years I've been searching that looked like that. And with that said, is there any chance that this is a US version? I reread the entire conversation that took place regarding CodeMaster variants. I'm currently operating under the assumption that this was a UK game imported some time to the US, but who knows? Maybe some of these specific variants slipped over to the US in an official capacity. If anyone has any reasonable proof that this did, or might have, happened. Please share! Anyway, regardless of the box/manual regional classification, I'm glad to finally scratch off the complete CodeMaster set of GG games and I'm also approaching the half-way mark for the complete GG, USA set. My most-expensive needed game at this point is Arena Maze of Death and they taper off in value from there reasonably fast. It might be another 18 months, but getting a complete GG set is starting to feel reasonable. According to Price Charting my total remaining game needs is about $1,900 and for a 2ish year project, I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,325 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 To complicate matters, many European versions were sold in Canada because of Quebec's language laws. It was cheaper to use Euro copies that already had both French and English text than to make a third variation. The system being region free makes it a smart business decision, though it really complicated shit for collectors. Note that this was also true on the Atari 2600. There's tons of PAL boxes and manuals floating around here because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count | 526 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I'd love to know if the VGS community has made any headway regarding CJ or FD US releases, but Erik @Braveheart69, Tom @MovieTom, and @CodysGameRoom haven't been here in months or years and I'm not sure who else amongst us is still in the GG collecting arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,926 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I have a beat up purple bar copy of dizzy for gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: I have a beat up purple bar copy of dizzy for gg Please post photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelement5x | 61 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 There is a picture of the US Dizzy on pricecharting, I've attached it below. Regarding the US vs UK version I have seen it pop up sometimes, but like CJ Elephant and Cosmic Spacehead it's very uncommon to locate the US purple bar version. I missed a box of Dizzy to a known reseller last summer and it was up on Mercari within a short period of time for a ridiculous amount. I am still on the hunt for a purple bar copy of Fantastic Dizzy if anyone might have one for sale (looking at you @MrWunderful ). It's one of the literal handful of games I'm still looking for in the US set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 51 minutes ago, xelement5x said: There is a picture of the US Dizzy on pricecharting, I've attached it below. Regarding the US vs UK version I have seen it pop up sometimes, but like CJ Elephant and Cosmic Spacehead it's very uncommon to locate the US purple bar version. I missed a box of Dizzy to a known reseller last summer and it was up on Mercari within a short period of time for a ridiculous amount. I am still on the hunt for a purple bar copy of Fantastic Dizzy if anyone might have one for sale (looking at you @MrWunderful ). It's one of the literal handful of games I'm still looking for in the US set. If you’re talking about the box, the yes, it’s been established that a purple barred box exists. No one has found a purple barred cartridge though and that would be BIG news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelement5x | 61 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, RH said: If you’re talking about the box, the yes, it’s been established that a purple barred box exists. No one has found a purple barred cartridge though and that would be BIG news. Ah I didn't know you were talking about the cart not the box. Yeah CJ and Dizzy never got unique labels as far as I could find in the years I've been watching. It's funny though, the Euro copy of CJ has US styling on the cart, whereas the US version of Dizzy keeps the Euro style. Probably just manufacturing shenanigans for keeping costs down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,926 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/8/2024 at 4:51 PM, RH said: Please post photos. Hey there, if you shoot me an email at wunderfulgaming@gmail.com next time I am at my unit I will grab it and email you a picture If In fact, it is a purple bar. I could’ve sworn it was, but I may be mistaken. I think I bought it, even though it had a thrashed label for that specific fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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