Nes Freak | 584 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Paypal denied me again... They didn't even have the decency to email me this time.. even with a police report of my own and evidence that this guy was blackmailing me. i don't know what else to do at this point. paypal nor fedex give two craps about my situation... so from what i learned fedex insurance is completely useless. and paypal will always favor the buyer no matter what. and i thought ebay was bad. (i have won with ebay a few times on the seller end) I'll try a few last ditch things. Ive heard that i can sue papal for this from Armageddon Potato in the situation that paypal helped the buyer get his money back wrongfully and damages for wasting my time in the matter. According to him i can win cause they never show up for small claims like that. but do i dare try that? this has been going on for months and it got me nowhere. and sorry this keeps showing up in the feed. i don't want to sound like i'm complaining but this really is a major issue with paypal for sellers! SO please do me a favor and everyone close your accounts with paypal. Paypal cant be trusted when it comes to scammers and with a 6 month return window basically says we like buyers not sellers. Its impossible to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sign Collector Guy | 334 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Nes Freak said: Paypal denied me again... They didn't even have the decency to email me this time.. even with a police report of my own and evidence that this guy was blackmailing me. i don't know what else to do at this point. paypal nor fedex give two craps about my situation... so from what i learned fedex insurance is completely useless. and paypal will always favor the buyer no matter what. and i thought ebay was bad. (i have won with ebay a few times on the seller end) I'll try a few last ditch things. Ive heard that i can sue papal for this from Armageddon Potato in the situation that paypal helped the buyer get his money back wrongfully and damages for wasting my time in the matter. According to him i can win cause they never show up for small claims like that. but do i dare try that? this has been going on for months and it got me nowhere. and sorry this keeps showing up in the feed. i don't want to sound like i'm complaining but this really is a major issue with paypal for sellers! SO please do me a favor and everyone close your accounts with paypal. Paypal cant be trusted when it comes to scammers and with a 6 month return window basically says we like buyers not sellers. Its impossible to win. Nice little guide here. You have come this far. Time to go all the way!! https://myradvocate.com/Your Guide to Sue Paypal in Small Claims Court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sign Collector Guy said: Nice little guide here. You have come this far. Time to go all the way!! https://myradvocate.com/Your Guide to Sue Paypal in Small Claims Court i will look into it. thank you. Edited December 17, 2019 by Nes Freak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 5:40 PM, Nes Freak said: yeah i know... and i thought ebay was bad. i Did submit my police report on my end so im fighting fire with fire. i bet a big class action lawsuit would put a stop to this. Class Action Lawsuits are an amalgamation of multiple individual cases grouped together into one large case. You can't initiate that process based on your single event. Did you pay with your credit card? You can call them and claim fraud, they're usually more helpful in pulling back funds. Your very last resort is IC3, it's a branch of USA federal government that deals specifically with online fraud. I used them in 2007 when I got scammed for an $1100 air ride suspension for my car and they sent the person a letter from the Attorney General's office, threatening next levels of action. I got my suspension pretty quickly after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,492 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: Class Action Lawsuits are an amalgamation of multiple individual cases grouped together into one large case. You can't initiate that process based on your single event. Plus, the majority of plaintiffs get a token payment while the lawyers pocket the rest. You might get lucky to see $50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Code Monkey said: Class Action Lawsuits are an amalgamation of multiple individual cases grouped together into one large case. You can't initiate that process based on your single event. Did you pay with your credit card? You can call them and claim fraud, they're usually more helpful in pulling back funds. Your very last resort is IC3, it's a branch of USA federal government that deals specifically with online fraud. I used them in 2007 when I got scammed for an $1100 air ride suspension for my car and they sent the person a letter from the Attorney General's office, threatening next levels of action. I got my suspension pretty quickly after that. hmmm... ok, well that's another avenue I'll definitely look into then. thanks. The guy used his paypal to pay me as far as i know. Edited December 18, 2019 by Nes Freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Nes Freak said: hmmm... ok, well that's another avenue I'll defiantly look into then. thanks. The guy used his paypal to pay me as far as i know. Defiantly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Code Monkey said: Defiantly? Definitely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkchylde28 | 1,546 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Code Monkey said: Defiantly? Given how much trouble the buyer has caused? DEFIANTLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Code Monkey said: Defiantly? Lol, little red line doesn't work all the time! I think you need to give him more spelling advice dude! Edited December 19, 2019 by OptOut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) OK ive got some good news! after months of battle and late police reports and it appears all hope was lost. i called paypal to prove i filed a police report via scan sent via their complaint email. i needed to veify that they got the notice that police report was filed but that it wouldn't be available for 60 days due to being backed up. i called and a supervisor named Scott took my call. i explained why i was calling and also reiterated my situation to him. so he read my complaint on paypal and told me to hold. about 5 minutes later he returned and told me he returned my lost 487 dollars. it was nothing short of a freaking miracle in my eyes. months of fighting and i finally connect to someone that took care of the issue in 5 minutes! 5 minutes! let that sink in. my faith has been restored for paypal that there are some people that arnt reading a script and actually give a crap about ones situation! he then went on to explain that i should have won the case to begin with and it was indeed wronged in this situation. unfortunately the scammer still got the money, it was paypal that refunded me. i told the guy i could kiss his hand for actually caring about my issue So Scott, you are the man!!! More people like him need to exist. So now that that's finished i don't need to stress about it anymore but let this be warning to all. scammers are out there, so you better do as much as you can to protect yourself! ive been recording the things i pack via camera and no longer do over roughly 100 dollar transaction on paypal. Edited January 27, 2020 by Nes Freak 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,492 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeewithmrsaturn | 100 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Wow, that's fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drxandy | 3,225 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Glad there was a positive ending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 5,800 Events Team · Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Great news. Glad you were finally made whole and PP admitted fault in handling your case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookii_risu | 206 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 12/18/2019 at 10:09 AM, Code Monkey said: Defiantly? Yes, people screw up when they type sometimes. Sheesh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonMan Abrams X | 697 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 12/4/2019 at 3:06 PM, MuNKeY said: Eh fuck pay pal, they have me by the balls for around $300 over a completely different matter that went down a few months ago. Once I settle it I am permanently done with them. I second this. PayPal is a pain in the ass to deal with. I lost about $100 due to PayPal fucking up and continually charging me multiple times for a subscription I had cancelled. Had to call four different times, two of the times after they I was assured they would stop the charges (then didn't) after the first couple times. 7 hours ago, Nes Freak said: months of fighting and i finally connect to someone that took care of the issue in 5 minutes! 5 minutes! let that sink in This outlines my philosophy on dealing with any sort of "customer service" now; simply keep calling back until you get someone who actually fixes the problem. Anyone who tells you they cannot do the thing is a lazy jerkass who doesn't want to do their job. You just need to eventually find the person who is willing to help you. Glad to hear you finally got some good resolution, OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NierAutomata | 23 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Celebration theme needed. Better warn all of the VB community so that they never buy from the guy. Also local retro stores. Paypal might close the other guy's account though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNESNESCUBE64 | 537 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I don't know who this Scott fellow is, but he seems like a pretty cool fellow. Thanks for helping our friend, Scott from Paypal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Nes Freak said: i needed to veify that they got the notice that police report was defiantly filed but that it wouldn't be available for 60 days due to being backed up. Now you're just messing with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drxandy | 3,225 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Defiantly no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Code Monkey said: Now you're just messing with me. Nah man, I admit it. My typing and spelling is terrible at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 ly 10 hours ago, NierAutomata said: Celebration theme needed. Better warn all of the VB community so that they never buy from the guy. Also local retro stores. Paypal might close the other guy's account though. i already have privately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 14 hours ago, SpoonMan Abrams X said: I second this. PayPal is a pain in the ass to deal with. I lost about $100 due to PayPal fucking up and continually charging me multiple times for a subscription I had cancelled. Had to call four different times, two of the times after they I was assured they would stop the charges (then didn't) after the first couple times. This outlines my philosophy on dealing with any sort of "customer service" now; simply keep calling back until you get someone who actually fixes the problem. Anyone who tells you they cannot do the thing is a lazy jerkass who doesn't want to do their job. You just need to eventually find the person who is willing to help you. Glad to hear you finally got some good resolution, OP i know, tell me about it lol. and im glad too that this is over. he also told me they would be investigating this guy and see if he has done this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nes Freak | 584 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 15 hours ago, ookii_risu said: Yes, people screw up when they type sometimes. Sheesh. well actually its the spell checker that does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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