portabello | 99 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I actually think it’s a great idea for a players’ collection. Classics titles that deserve to be handled over and over. Higher priced rare stuff, not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,719 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Dr. Morbis said: Ask an archivist of just about anything and they'll tell you that previous "restorations" are the bane of their existence, and for good reason... Yes, which is why swapping backs is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,707 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 20 hours ago, Gloves said: The laminate is an addition to the original thing which if removed would damage the thing. I'd never expect people here to be in favour of that, personally. You misspelled fauvoeur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 11 hours ago, LeatherRebel5150 said: Nah, that’s where I deviate. If your just going to use a flashcart, then it’s pointless to keep the carts around. Its like the guys who have a nice classic car and leave it in the garage. That’s a really boring way to do it It's not pointless because it's this physical manifestation of experiences and an era, the collectible. Altough it's still important that it works and can be played otherwise it's not a game anymore. A classic car can't be driven without actually doing it so it's not the same. A game can be played anyway. If there was a comparable "hack" that could allow the classic car to remain pristine while getting the driving experience out of it at the same time most owners would do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeatherRebel5150 | 1,055 Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 9 hours ago, cartman said: A classic car can't be driven without actually doing it so it's not the same. A game can be played anyway. If there was a comparable "hack" that could allow the classic car to remain pristine while getting the driving experience out of it at the same time most owners would do it. I strongly disagree. Many owners do just that, by driving another car. Driving is driving. Seems like a completely apt comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drxandy | 3,225 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 22 hours ago, LeatherRebel5150 said: Nah, that’s where I deviate. If your just going to use a flashcart, then it’s pointless to keep the carts around. Its like the guys who have a nice classic car and leave it in the garage. That’s a really boring way to do it I think it's nice to have flashcarts to supplement a collection. Having access to rom hacks, system test software, unreleased/translations (big yessss on translations, glad to see stuff start getting official English releases lately though too!), import stuff that you can't easily get access to. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 8 hours ago, LeatherRebel5150 said: I strongly disagree. Many owners do just that, by driving another car. Driving is driving. Seems like a completely apt comparison. Yes another car. But it's still not really the same. There's just no way to make a copy of a car like you can a file. Sure you can buy another one but to additional cost, and that one will degrade aswell you use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 9:45 AM, LeatherRebel5150 said: I understand people like things to be original, Im one of them. But I don’t see this as a major alteration. Everything exists as it was minus the ability to smear the ink on the label with your sweaty finger. I do get this. It's nice to use original hardware/games and only inflict absolute, minimal wear when you use them (because inserting a cart into any system is committing minor cart damage, every time) so wanting to protect the label makes sense. But as I pointed out, there is no solution to date that doesn't cause long term issues. So why "protect" something with an acrylic, clear sticker when in the end this will end up causing more damage than carefully using the game and being sure that when you insert/remove the game, don't touch the label. In my house, I'm the only one who inserts the N64 cartridges (because my kids like to play it.) I pinch the cart from the plastic sides. That's how I get around this issue. I never touch the labels. On 6/3/2023 at 12:07 PM, Dr. Morbis said: The problem with most "restorations" is that they make the item far worse in the long term. You may not be thinking (or caring) about what your N64 carts look like in thirty or fourty years, but I can guarantee you that any after-market laminate applied in 2023 will look like complete ass in 2063 when the glue has broken down and it's either actiplaquing or wrinkling or smearing the label with oil or whatever. Ask an archivist of just about anything and they'll tell you that previous "restorations" are the bane of their existence, and for good reason... Bingo. Some form of archival stickers that can easily be removed with no damage would be great. They don't exist though, and that's my point. On 6/3/2023 at 4:54 PM, LeatherRebel5150 said: Seems like a good idea to protect it to me Regarding the Declaration of Independence, yes, it is a good idea to preserve it! That's why scientists in the field of document restoration and preservation will come up with plans to firm up aged pager and stabilize it. In affect the result is the same but their final intent isn't to "laminate" something. It's to be sure the document lasts as long as absolutely possible and, hopefully, when their changes have reached their life time of effectiveness, some new science will pick up where their work left off and preserve the document even further. We may not be talking about items that are even 1/100th of historical significance as a document like The Declaration of Independence or even something like The Magna Carta, but must of us as collectors want to preserve our collections for very long term integrity. I can agree that I like the idea of a label protector for any game with a matte finish because, yes, they wipe off very easily the print. But I'm not about to do it at the expense of the future. This is also why I stopped (mostly) retrobriting stuff. I like games and items that are in pristine, bluish grey color, but since I've heard it accelerates the brittle nature of the plastic and the affect doesn't last as long as the original plastic anyway, I've stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,881 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Me grabbing my copy of Banjo-Kazooie to jam in my N64 (cart POV): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,719 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 hours ago, OptOut said: Me grabbing my copy of Banjo-Kazooie to jam in my N64 (cart POV): Wow, I haven't seen Charlie for awhile!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,707 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 How about something clear with Post-It Note ™ adhesive? Protective but temporary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,926 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Has anyone tried putting the cart in and out without touching the label? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 3,978 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: Has anyone tried putting the cart in and out without touching the label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,926 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Brickman said: Crazy right? Heres the steps 1. hold from sides, insert into console- press top down (in) 2. grip from sides and pull (2 hands) 2a. Grip next to label with forefinger and thumb, brace against console with ring and pinky, use leverage to remove (1 hand) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,719 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, MrWunderful said: Has anyone tried putting the cart in and out without touching the label? What about gloves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,759 Administrator · Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, fcgamer said: What about gloves? Yes, hello? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 3,978 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, Gloves said: Yes, hello? You must travel to everyone’s house and personally remove their N64 carts using Mr.Wunderful’s (patent pending) technique. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,881 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 15 hours ago, fcgamer said: Wow, I haven't seen Charlie for awhile!!! Lol, I just did a google image search for cheeto fingers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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