Gloves | 11,776 Administrator · Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bearcat-Doug said: @Gloves Is something going on with the site? Everytime I post, it lags for about 10 seconds and then double posts the same thing. Mmmm not that I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Bearcat-Doug said: Huh, I just started watching this show on HBOMax. I'm on season 2. It's so funny. I love almost anything Mike Judge puts out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, mbd39 said: Huh, I just started watching this show on HBOMax. I'm on season 2. It's so funny. I love almost anything Mike Judge puts out. Did you like King of the Hill? I used to watch it, but it seemed like a cartoon sitcom and I just couldn't get into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Bearcat-Doug said: Did you like King of the Hill? I used to watch it, but it seemed like a cartoon sitcom and I just couldn't get into it. I like King of the Hill and used to watch it all the time. At least it's different from most animated sitcoms where the humor is wackier and the dad character is usually a complete idiot. King of the Hill's humor is a lot more observational/relatable and character driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, mbd39 said: I like King of the Hill and used to watch it all the time. At least it's different from most animated sitcoms where the humor is wackier and the dad character is usually a complete idiot. King of the Hill's humor is a lot more observational/relatable and character driven. It was different, but I just didn't care for it compared to The Simpsons or Family Guy. I guess I just associate animated sitcoms with over the top humor and it just fell flat for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,198 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Am I the only person who doesn’t like the Simpsons? It’s not even a take it or leave it. I don’t want to watch it, at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, docile tapeworm said: Am I the only person who doesn’t like the Simpsons? Yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, docile tapeworm said: Am I the only person who doesn’t like the Simpsons? It’s not even a take it or leave it. I don’t want to watch it, at all. @Murray is rolling over in his grave! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I'm so rusty. Trying to remember the best strats. Level 3 is giving me a rough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESfiend | 1,515 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, mbd39 said: I'm so rusty. Trying to remember the best strats. Level 3 is giving me a rough time. The portion where you are sliding down the roof was a really poor plan. My least favorite part of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, mbd39 said: I'm so rusty. Trying to remember the best strats. Level 3 is giving me a rough time. I don't think I've played this since the 2015 contest. I was going to give it a shot for fun, but I haven't had a chance to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,198 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, NESfiend said: The portion where you are sliding down the roof was a really poor plan. My least favorite part of the game. I remember it being not so fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Bearcat-Doug said: That's what I've always said. A winning score posted on Day 1 is still gonna be a winning score. Just because everyone knows what to shoot for doesn't make them able to beat it. Normally I'd agree with you for skill based stuff, but in this particular instance, there is a large heart to refill your health that always reappears and only a couple of enemies in the "fall through the floor" loop, so it is literally a matter of who's going to spend the most of his free time doing that loop over and over and over. It's not even a matter of risk vs reward since your health doesn't slowly dwindle the more you do the loop. So even if you posted like a 200k score a week ahead of time, whoever wanted to win would just do the loop until he hit 201k. Man, I've always hated point scumming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillavoie | 1,208 Events Team · Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dr. Morbis said: Normally I'd agree with you for skill based stuff, but in this particular instance, there is a large heart to refill your health that always reappears and only a couple of enemies in the "fall through the floor" loop, so it is literally a matter of who's going to spend the most of his free time doing that loop over and over and over. It's not even a matter of risk vs reward since your health doesn't slowly dwindle the more you do the loop. So even if you posted like a 200k score a week ahead of time, whoever wanted to win would just do the loop until he hit 201k. Man, I've always hated point scumming... If you can exploit a loop infinitely, it should be forbidden in a high score contest. @BeaIank, what's your thought on this? If there was a timer it would be okay, but looping forever a part of a stage should be frown upon, especially if you can replenish health in the process. If anyone playing in the tournament want to weigh in, please do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESfiend | 1,515 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, guillavoie said: If you can exploit a loop infinitely, it should be forbidden in a high score contest. @BeaIank, what's your thought on this? If there was a timer it would be okay, but looping forever a part of a stage should be frown upon, especially if you can replenish health in the process. If anyone playing in the tournament want to weigh in, please do so. I tend to agree and was surprised hole dropping was alllowed. It is harder to master getting up and down without losing health as morbis makes it out though. The guys that shoot guns on each side of the screen are annoying. But with some practice, I was gaining a little life looping it. Could have done it many times. THAT said, its thurs at 10:15 pm and Im just starting on pro wrestling. And its kicking my ass. I think its way too late to change rules in a two game week Edited November 18, 2022 by NESfiend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NESfiend said: I tend to agree and was surprised hole dropping was alllowed. It is harder to master getting up and down without losing health as morbis makes it out though. The guys that shoot guns on each side of the screen are annoying. But with some practice, I was gaining a little life looping it. Could have done it many times. THAT said, its thurs at 10:15 pm and Im just starting on pro wrestling. And its kicking my ass. I think its way too late to change rules in a two game week Trust me, once you've done it a few times you'll be gaining life every time on the drop down to make up for any health you may have lost on the electric floor portion of the loop. Plus you get an automatic partial life refill every 10k points on top of that, making it even easier. But anyway, my vote is for no drop downs allowed, but I'm fine with the rules either way since it's late in the week. But whoever wins will clearly be the one who spends the most time doing the loop. Like if someone wants to spend hours and hit a million points, nothing is really stopping him. Just saying.... Edited November 18, 2022 by Dr. Morbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,325 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I'm not keen on banning them outright, as it can happen accidentally. I am against using them infinitely though. If it's a choice of allowing them or not allowing them though, I'm leaning toward not allowing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaIank | 1,618 Events Team · Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 @guillavoie: We can keep allowing it but making it not allowed to pick the energy refil. Then it will be a matter of real skill rather than just repeating the loop. I think it is a good solution since it allows for accidental drops to happen. Of course, it depends on the honour system, but that would be the same case for barring the drops since they can happen accidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Dr. Morbis said: Normally I'd agree with you for skill based stuff, but in this particular instance, there is a large heart to refill your health that always reappears and only a couple of enemies in the "fall through the floor" loop, so it is literally a matter of who's going to spend the most of his free time doing that loop over and over and over. It's not even a matter of risk vs reward since your health doesn't slowly dwindle the more you do the loop. So even if you posted like a 200k score a week ahead of time, whoever wanted to win would just do the loop until he hit 201k. Man, I've always hated point scumming... Yeah, that is a good point. Those infinite scoring loops are trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 8 hours ago, guillavoie said: If you can exploit a loop infinitely, it should be forbidden in a high score contest. @BeaIank, what's your thought on this? If there was a timer it would be okay, but looping forever a part of a stage should be frown upon, especially if you can replenish health in the process. If anyone playing in the tournament want to weigh in, please do so. Here are the rules from the 2015 contest. You had to start over if you looped any part of the game back then. This week's game is going to be Batman Returns. Here are the rules: Play until Game Over No point racking allowed On the second floor of the department store, if you fall through the floor back to the first floor, your attempt will end there. In the stage where you have to rescue the Ice Princess, You must enter the first, the second, and the third window in order to find her. You must enter those windows to progress the stage, and can't pass them by or your run end there. Highest score wins Genre: Beat ‘Em Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I don't plan on utilizing point pressing either way. I'm just trying to reach 5-1. We're not allowed to use the boxes, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaIank | 1,618 Events Team · Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, mbd39 said: I don't plan on utilizing point pressing either way. I'm just trying to reach 5-1. We're not allowed to use the boxes, right? You can use the boxes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,198 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, mbd39 said: I don't plan on utilizing point pressing either way. I'm just trying to reach 5-1. We're not allowed to use the boxes, right? 8 minutes ago, BeaIank said: You can use the boxes. What are “the boxes”? The health pick ups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 56 minutes ago, BeaIank said: You can use the boxes. Nice! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaIank | 1,618 Events Team · Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 So, if everyone agrees, I will amend the rules to allow the loop as long as you don't pick the heart refill for Batman. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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