Wata graded ROM hacks

[CodysGameRoom | 2,008]

What do you think, is it authentic? I mean WATA is there to confirm authenticity right?
 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185281262536?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=gr_fxhfxt6a&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=HKl5F70OTMq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

Edited November 1, 2022 by CodysGameRoom

[Code Monkey | 2,006]

They grade authenticity, not whether the game was retail released. This one is authentic.

[Tyree_Cooper | 753]

[MrWunderful | 2,927]

Its authentically fake. 

 

1 hour ago, Code Monkey said:

They grade authenticity, not whether the game was retail released. This one is authentic.

while true,  wata’s business model is to put everything possible in a case with a number on it.  The authenticating is something required to properly identify something. 
 

There is nothing stopping them from grading anything, even fake or “reproduction” items but just labeling as such.  While inherently stupid IMO, Im not surprised they dont do more homebrews, reproductions, LRG etc. its easy money. 
 

 

Made in china aliexpress n64 game? Buy it brand new, send it in for an easy 9.8

 

Seriously though in Wata’s defense, its clearly labeled as a rom hack with repro box. 

Edited November 1, 2022 by MrWunderful

[CodysGameRoom | 2,008]

2 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

They grade authenticity, not whether the game was retail released. This one is authentic.

Is that an authentic ESRB rating? Curious.

[Gloves | 11,776]

2 minutes ago, CodysGameRoom said:

Is that an authentic ESRB rating? Curious.

Not to mention all the other logos they don't hold the rights to.

[fcgamer | 4,723]

Wait, so would they grade my Hungry Ghost Night sealed games? I just stuck them in baggies, and taped them closed. 

[CodysGameRoom | 2,008]

3 hours ago, fcgamer said:

Wait, so would they grade my Hungry Ghost Night sealed games? I just stuck them in baggies, and taped them closed. 

Yes, they will grade our arts and crafts projects. Personally, I am going to get this one printed on a box, and sealed. A store I know has a resealing machine, it'll be easy. No need for a game or manual contents inside, it's sealed so they have no idea what's inside. I'll just throw a one direction game in there or something for the weight. Hopefully they give me a good grade and I can sell for $2k or more!

[Link | 2,709]

10 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

They grade authenticity, not whether the game was retail released. This one is authentic.

 so what does that even mean??

[CodysGameRoom | 2,008]

15 minutes ago, Link said:

 so what does that even mean??

It's guaranteed certified by WATA to be authentically fake. 

[MrWunderful | 2,927]

14 minutes ago, Link said:

 so what does that even mean??

Everything that exists is “authentic”

 

I was thinking- what If I made a repro game, and went out of my way to make sure everything was perfect. Every corner and edge, every printed line. The goal would to be the first 10.0. 1 of 1, 10.0 grade A++ seal. Then sell for 60 mil and retire. 

[TDIRunner | 2,734]

There is a big difference between an "authentic fake" and a "fake fake,"  and thank God that WATA is here to tell us the difference.  They are doing the Lord's work.  

[fcgamer | 4,723]

34 minutes ago, TDIRunner said:

There is a big difference between an "authentic fake" and a "fake fake,"  and thank God that WATA is here to tell us the difference.  They are doing the Lord's work.  

Well there definitely are different kinds of fakes, but that's a rabbit hole I don't even want to head down this late at night. 

[TDIRunner | 2,734]

16 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

Well there definitely are different kinds of fakes, but that's a rabbit hole I don't even want to head down this late at night. 

We don't have to go down that rabbit hole.  WATA will take care of it for us.  

[fcgamer | 4,723]

19 minutes ago, TDIRunner said:

We don't have to go down that rabbit hole.  WATA will take care of it for us.  

Let's all thank WATA!

[final fight cd | 186]

I would suspect if WATA graded a CIB copy of 2008 8-bit Xmas the consensus of people probably wouldn’t care.  I don’t even think the box was originally sold with the xmas carts. 
 

Assuming my assumption is correct, how would this be different? 
 

if my assumption is incorrect please let me know.  

[CodysGameRoom | 2,008]

59 minutes ago, final fight cd said:

Assuming my assumption is correct, how would this be different? 

It wouldn't be different. But WATA should not be grading reproduction/rom hacks/etc.

Is the ROM hack I posted in the first post supposed to be graded keeping in mind that there is a game inside? Who knows if there is actually a game inside? If there is, who knows if it's actually the right cartridge? There's zero way to authenticate that. It's not like verifying an original H-seam. 

There might be no game inside and people wouldn't have a clue, and would be duped. It's not forthright to grade this stuff. It shouldn't be graded. It's shady as fuck.

[Code Monkey | 2,006]

19 hours ago, CodysGameRoom said:

Is that an authentic ESRB rating? Curious.

Again, Wata is not the logo police. They graded a game as a company that offers grading services.

[Code Monkey | 2,006]

10 hours ago, Link said:

 so what does that even mean??

They aren't verifying whether the game was purchased in a store. They were paid to grade it and they did, they also labelled it appropriately regarding authenticity.

[Code Monkey | 2,006]

7 hours ago, CodysGameRoom said:

It wouldn't be different. But WATA should not be grading reproduction/rom hacks/etc.

Is the ROM hack I posted in the first post supposed to be graded keeping in mind that there is a game inside? Who knows if there is actually a game inside? If there is, who knows if it's actually the right cartridge? There's zero way to authenticate that. It's not like verifying an original H-seam. 

There might be no game inside and people wouldn't have a clue, and would be duped. It's not forthright to grade this stuff. It shouldn't be graded. It's shady as fuck.

They don't provide that service, Wata does not guarantee anything inside a sealed box. I have seen sealed boxes opened with the wrong game inside, they got mixed up at the factory. In this case, Wata cannot guarantee anything inside the box.

[MrWunderful | 2,927]

18 minutes ago, Code Monkey said:

They don't provide that service, Wata does not guarantee anything inside a sealed box. I have seen sealed boxes opened with the wrong game inside, they got mixed up at the factory. In this case, Wata cannot guarantee anything inside the box.

Really?  You have seen this plural, as more than once?  That sounds like a lie, would love to see some proof. 
 

 

[wongojack | 214]

This is ridiculous.  WATA smells your farts and "authenticates" if they smell like asparagus or hangover, but they won't tell you what you ate. 

 

Please stop giving them your fart money.

[Tyree_Cooper | 753]

It wasn't me! I think it's OptOut that farted.

"Reproduction (ROM Hack)"

By definition, a rom hack can't be a reproduction, but who cares, it's graded.

[CodysGameRoom | 2,008]

13 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

They don't provide that service, Wata does not guarantee anything inside a sealed box. I have seen sealed boxes opened with the wrong game inside, they got mixed up at the factory. In this case, Wata cannot guarantee anything inside the box.

Why do you staunchly defend them even after they screwed you personally but fucking up your Zelda game? I don't understand it. 

[ThePhleo | 2,184]

OK. TWO.

I now have two major criticisms of Wata.

1. Wata should not be engaging in game valuations without a third party providing the prices for them. A game is more valuable if it has a higher grade, they charge more for your item if it grades higher, therefor they have a financial motive to artificially increase the grades of some items.
2. They have no business grading counterfeit, bootleg, and pirated items.