dogbowl | 150 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Currently listed on eBay - What's going on here? Stickers left on the box and the cart placed in the incorrect position - on the one box where it actually matters!? Also seems strange they don't expect the map to be included in the box. I don't mind graded games, I even purchase from HA auctions - however this sloppiness really lowers my impression of WATA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,184 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Stickers are always left on the box since they don't want to modify the game without the consent of the owner, and they no longer offer cleaning services. Cartridge positioning is effed, and I highly disagree with them that the map doesn't count. The map is *essential* if not integral to gameplay. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,709 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 They probably don't even know about the map 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360collector | 289 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I didnt know it was possiible to get a lower impression of that company 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
final fight cd | 186 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 4 hours ago, ThePhleo said: Stickers are always left on the box since they don't want to modify the game without the consent of the owner, and they no longer offer cleaning services. Cartridge positioning is effed, and I highly disagree with them that the map doesn't count. The map is *essential* if not integral to gameplay. I tried finding an actual physical picture of the map online but couldn't. what info does the map present that the instructions don't? i kinda feel like they shouldn't make exceptions for particular games. if they say this map must be included to be counted as CIB, do all other games with maps need to be included, regardless of their usefulness, as well? if they start to count maps they might as well count posters too. i've seen 2 different youtube videos of people unsealing lethal enforcers for the sega cd. and guess what: the contents of both boxes were not identical. of course the map was included in the legend of zelda, but i don't think they can as certain for other game in the nes library. there needs to be a consistent line drawn and i think where that line is currently drawn is appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 3,834 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 At least this one isn’t full of flies. Oh well. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 582 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Unplug your Nintendo and throw it in the trash if you can’t figure out Zelda without a map. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360collector | 289 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, final fight cd said: I tried finding an actual physical picture of the map online but couldn't. what info does the map present that the instructions don't? i kinda feel like they shouldn't make exceptions for particular games. if they say this map must be included to be counted as CIB, do all other games with maps need to be included, regardless of their usefulness, as well? if they start to count maps they might as well count posters too. i've seen 2 different youtube videos of people unsealing lethal enforcers for the sega cd. and guess what: the contents of both boxes were not identical. of course the map was included in the legend of zelda, but i don't think they can as certain for other game in the nes library. there needs to be a consistent line drawn and i think where that line is currently drawn is appropriate. Im not too hard on what is CIB but maps should always be included if the game came with it. Usefulness is irrelevant. The discussion should be about random pamphlets etc ( I dont feel they are needed but open for arguments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360collector | 289 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 53 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said: Unplug your Nintendo and throw it in the trash if you can’t figure out Zelda without a map. Are you missing some styrofoam inserts since your so mad lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyree_Cooper | 753 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 keep giving them business, they deserve your money 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 5,798 Events Team · Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I mean, what do you want from a TWATA 6.5 really? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,932 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, JamesRobot said: I mean, what do you want from a TWATA 6.5 really? TWATA? 6.9 grade, easy. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inasuma | 1,203 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Welcome to Wata 2.0 quality control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,709 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 7 hours ago, final fight cd said: I tried finding an actual physical picture of the map online but couldn't. what info does the map present that the instructions don't? i kinda feel like they shouldn't make exceptions for particular games. if they say this map must be included to be counted as CIB, do all other games with maps need to be included, regardless of their usefulness, as well? if they start to count maps they might as well count posters too. i've seen 2 different youtube videos of people unsealing lethal enforcers for the sega cd. and guess what: the contents of both boxes were not identical. of course the map was included in the legend of zelda, but i don't think they can as certain for other game in the nes library. there needs to be a consistent line drawn and i think where that line is currently drawn is appropriate. The map was basically supplemental info, above and beyond a normal manual sure. But also part of the original package and specific to that game. integral to the gameplay of the time, existing in a world without internet resources. It's a pretty easy line, imo. Directly related to helping you play the game. Very different from "hey buy this other thing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,883 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Why'd they put the game in wrong?! LMAO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 They don't remove stickers for free, that's on the owner. The black sleeve in the window would probably bug me a little, but they'd fix it for free if you sent back (just the hassle and wait of sending back again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApebitMusic | 130 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 The fact they put the game in there that way is absolutely absurd. The map... whether it's "integral" or "necessary" to the gameplay is totally irrelevant. It was included in the original game so if it's not there the game isn't complete. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,932 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just out of curiosity was there a picture I didn't see of the rear with more text or where did this come from where they're that stupid to think the little fold out every game had included with a circle sticker seal doesn't count in being a 'complete' game as that's idiotic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbowl | 150 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 Perhaps it has the wrong manual as well. All in all, good market opportunity for VGA, just grade & describe the games properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,723 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Well this is the sort of crap to be expected when dealing with armchair asshole "experts". Been saying this for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbowl | 150 Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 Crooked!!?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 10:50 AM, dogbowl said: They dont even specify if its the Purple Gannon version or not... Busch League! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 4 hours ago, dogbowl said: Crooked!!?! Not laughing at you, but I am laughing at your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyree_Cooper | 753 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 yes they are crooked also it's jonathan hey, unless you want to write leo dicaprio and rob downey jr. , but i guess they just got it from imdb on a 1 second internet search man i need to stop coming to these grading threads, they give me smallpox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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