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  1. 1. Are we on the brink of World War III?

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I hate to use the "Nazi-analogy" which is used far far far too often in instances where it is unwarranted, BUT, in this case I think it is. I really don't see how anyone can defend the Russians, which are absolutely behaving as Nazis did

A Visit to the Crime Scene Russian Troops Left Behind at a Summer Camp in Bucha

https://time.com/6166681/bucha-massacre-ukraine-dispatch/

“The signs of torture were also on the bodies,” says Taras Shapravskyi, the deputy mayor of Bucha. Five dead men in civilian clothes were found in that chamber, he told me. “They had burns, bruises, lacerations.” It was dark when the groundskeeper took me there the following week and shined a flashlight in the room where they had lain. Two trails of dried blood ran down a wall into the dirt, next to a fleece hat that appeared to have a bullet hole.

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No you're right it is both overused by people who want to demonize opinions these days with their wunderful behavior, but in this case it's entirely warranted.  Genocide, killing civilians, mass graves, bs propaganda, framing the other as the aggressor/threat, claiming to reclaim lost lands, the list goes on that parallels just too closely what happened 80 years ago.  Sadly another parallel so far, more lip service than action, sending supplies but little else, other than those who say screw it and go on their own choosing to help out directly.

It's going to take Putin losing his mind and attacking NATO forces before people step in I think.  He doesn't want people on his border and more NATO members, yet now he has driven them to wall up the border with NATO troops and hardware on their side while scaring/encouraging more countries to join up now too.  He's practically begging for it at this rate.

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20 hours ago, Tanooki said:

  Sadly another parallel so far, more lip service than action, sending supplies but little else, other than those who say screw it and go on their own choosing to help out directly.

 

Not for nothing, but the USA has sent a third of ALL javelin missiles in existence to Ukraine.

The supplies the west provides are absolutely critical to Ukraine's continued successful defense. (Coupled with sanctions that have already made Russia incapable of repair or replacement of lost equipment)

 

It would be great if we could help more directly with air support, but it is hard to see how that could happen without it providing Russia with an excuse to deploy tactical nukes out of desperation, or at the very least opens the door for them to fire cruise missiles indiscriminately into NATO territory in retaliation, raising the stakes for civilians outside of Ukraine.

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Ex-spies and diplomats say the Biden administration needs to 'shut-up' after NYT report about US intelligence helping Ukraine kill Russian generals

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-spies-diplomats-biden-administration-185404578.html

Former US officials and diplomats in recent days have sharply criticized the Biden administration over a New York Times report based on conversations with senior officials that said US intelligence was helping Ukraine kill Russian generals. "Shut up about it," John Sipher, a former CIA officer who served in Russia, said in a tweet on the Times report. Michael McFaul, a former US ambassador to Russia, in a tweet responding to Sipher said, "Exactly. No one should be talking to press about such things."

Seriously... why is this happening? Don't get me wrong, I support the USA supporting Ukraine, just do it quietly!!!

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On June 7th, 1942 The Chicago Tribune published an article about the Battle of Midway that revealed the US had broken the Japanese naval codes.  Fortunately the Japanese never learned of this - if the Japanese had changed their codes it would have made things more difficult until we managed to break the new codes.   Amazingly irresponsible.

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/05/06/technology/russian-propaganda-television.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

The War in Ukraine, as Seen on Russian TV

By Stuart A. ThompsonMay 6, 2022

To Western audiences, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has unfolded as a series of brutal attacks punctuated by strategic blunders. But on Russian television, those same events were spun as positive developments, an interpretation aided by a rapid jumble of opinion and falsehoods.

Much of Russian news media is tightly controlled by the Kremlin, with state-run television working as a mouthpiece for the government. Critical reporting about the war has been criminalized.

Russian television’s convoluted and sometimes contradictory narratives about the war are not solely intended to convince viewers that their version of events is true, disinformation experts say. Just as often, the goal is to confuse viewers and sow distrust so audiences are not sure what to believe.

The New York Times reviewed more than 50 hours of television footage to show how the war was being presented to Russians through the country’s news media.

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18 minutes ago, MrWunderful said:

Funny because last time Russia tried to invade Finland they got that ass whooped. Especially after now they exposed to the world how inept their military truly is. 

Actually not - towards the end of WWII the Russians* launched a counteroffensive against Finnish (and some Nazi) forces around Leningrad - they greatly outnumbered the Finns and pushed them well back into Finland.  

The Winter War of 1939-1940 was another story (for awhile anyway) - the Russian forces greatly outnumbered the Finnish forces and they thoroughly thrashed the Russians in the harsh winter.  The Russians re-organized, resupplied and changed their strategy so they could take advantage of their numerical superiority.   The Finns were then forced to surrender.

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*In August of 1941  Stalin asked Roosevelt to arrange restoration of peaceful relations with Finland and offered to return territories to Finland.  In what was a serious mistake (in hindsight) the Finns refused - driven by hatred of the Soviets and at the time it seemed that the Germans would win.

 

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