This is great! The guide from Nintendoage definitely needed a bit of updating. Any plans on including Unlicensed stuff down the line?

3 minutes ago, Jono1874 said:

This is great! The guide from Nintendoage definitely needed a bit of updating. Any plans on including Unlicensed stuff down the line?

Very soon actually...hopefully in a week.

I like the list. Have you considered adding 2 more color bars for cib and sealed.  there's a huge difference in rarity when you add  cardboard to the equation. games like sqoon,chubby, fun family fitness series 1 jump into the top 5 and series 1 is probably the second rarest box behind stadium events.

On 11/18/2019 at 9:40 AM, Guardian Legend said:

I like the list. Have you considered adding 2 more color bars for cib and sealed.  there's a huge difference in rarity when you add  cardboard to the equation. games like sqoon,chubby, fun family fitness series 1 jump into the top 5 and series 1 is probably the second rarest box behind stadium events.

I plan on doing CIB very soon, though it would require a little addon work. I need to add major variants to the list (FFF AW vs. AW, Red Flying Dragon vs. White, Left Bros Mario 3, vs. Right, etc., etc.)

In my mind, FFF: Athletic World is still an R9 but it's absolutely a top 5.

Sealed, virtually EVERYTHING is R7 and up except for a few of the games that Dov unearthed way back whenever. How many sealed games are found at garage sales and goodwill?

On 11/15/2019 at 9:41 PM, ThePhleo said:

Very soon actually...hopefully in a week.

I was surprised by some of these. Seems like they were somewhat more harshly graded. For example, I think you'd be much more hard pressed to find a copy of caltron 6-1 than a swordmaster or even snow bros. Same could be said comparing action 52 to a lot of the 7s on the licensed list. Maxi 15 as a 6 seems low. I guess it depends on whether you look at it as fewest number of carts out there or difficulty/expense of actually acquiring one. As far as how many carts there are actually are out there, unlicensed games in general are much more scarce than licensed. But there is a lot smaller market of buyers. Are these basically on their own scale?

3 hours ago, NESfiend said:

 

I was surprised by some of these. Seems like they were somewhat more harshly graded. For example, I think you'd be much more hard pressed to find a copy of caltron 6-1 than a swordmaster or even snow bros. Same could be said comparing action 52 to a lot of the 7s on the licensed list. Maxi 15 as a 6 seems low. I guess it depends on whether you look at it as fewest number of carts out there or difficulty/expense of actually acquiring one. As far as how many carts there are actually are out there, unlicensed games in general are much more scarce than licensed. But there is a lot smaller market of buyers. Are these basically on their own scale?

Like I said, I'm not satisfied with how the numbers came out for the unlicensed library and I might do a rework on it using its own scale (still on 1-10, but maybe not relative to general NES)

On 11/23/2019 at 5:25 PM, ThePhleo said:

 

Like I said, I'm not satisfied with how the numbers came out for the unlicensed library and I might do a rework on it using its own scale (still on 1-10, but maybe not relative to general NES)

My fault. I missed that comment. Thanks again for putting together the lists. 

Did you sort each number rarity by specific title rarity?

The lack of alphabetical organization really bothers me but if you’re going for the 1st 8 being the least rare of all of the 8’s, I understand. 

and applaud you for your unrelenting work!

This is great. Thanks for sharing.

Do you happen to have historical data on the NWC carts? IIRC, you had participated in the history thread on NA. Since I have contributed and have some of the history myself (specifically for my cart and the other cart found near me), I'd be happy to help with such an effort. Let me know if you're interested. 

On 12/14/2019 at 10:14 AM, Foochie776 said:

Did you sort each number rarity by specific title rarity?

 

The lack of alphabetical organization really bothers me but if you’re going for the 1st 8 being the least rare of all of the 8’s, I understand. 

 

and applaud you for your unrelenting work!

Yes, it was sorted by rarity. Normally I go alphabetic sort, but it made more sense to do it by rarity because, well, its a rarity guide

I can upload an excel sheet though which would allow anyone to sort how they feel it should be! I just wish we had sortable tables.

15 hours ago, ninjistar said:

This is great. Thanks for sharing.

Do you happen to have historical data on the NWC carts? IIRC, you had participated in the history thread on NA. Since I have contributed and have some of the history myself (specifically for my cart and the other cart found near me), I'd be happy to help with such an effort. Let me know if you're interested. 

Sales data, no.

I gave up on nailing down a price on NWC since that title in specific had way too many private sales to actually have a market price.

I do have a list of every (publicly) known NWC cart though!

2 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

 

Yes, it was sorted by rarity. Normally I go alphabetic sort, but it made more sense to do it by rarity because, well, its a rarity guide

I can upload an excel sheet though which would allow anyone to sort how they feel it should be! I just wish we had sortable tables.

I find it very satisfying that you chose this way and it makes me eager to read through more closely and see how much we agree. I applaud your hard work, I enjoy this stuff so much!

Just now, Foochie776 said:

I find it very satisfying that you chose this way and it makes me eager to read through more closely and see how much we agree. I applaud your hard work, I enjoy this stuff so much!

I have a new version coming out soon that adjusts a couple things on the lower end.

There's a lot of 2's, 3's, and 4's that need to move a slot or two.

Also, most of my list is somewhat automated, so it's not really hard work. It's manually processed, but from R2-R6 you can basically just load up price charting, sort by price and then look for AAA titles as markers. For example, look at Contra...it's easily an R2, but it's the most expensive R2 for a reason. No R2 should be more expensive than it...so if there is an R2 more expensive than Contra then it must be an R3....now take that concept and expand it all the way up to R6.

R7-10 is all by feeling.

5 hours ago, ThePhleo said:

Sales data, no.

I gave up on nailing down a price on NWC since that title in specific had way too many private sales to actually have a market price.

I do have a list of every (publicly) known NWC cart though!

Yes, I was referring to the lineage of each known cart and the potential missing/never found carts. I can share my photos and such if such a thread is started again. Let me know if you'd like my input!

I was recently thinking that it would be good to recreate the post / list of known NWC carts.  The info there was really helpful when we purchased our carts (like knowing the list of original winners for example). I did also save the info from the old site so if you decide to do a post for it I'm happy to contribute.

On 12/16/2019 at 4:54 PM, ThePhleo said:

 

Yes, it was sorted by rarity. Normally I go alphabetic sort, but it made more sense to do it by rarity because, well, its a rarity guide

I can upload an excel sheet though which would allow anyone to sort how they feel it should be! I just wish we had sortable tables.

I quickly put together a Google spreadsheet that sorts all of the games by both price and alphabetical order. I also made a couple minor changes, such as making the colors a bit easier to differentiate and grouping all the licensed and unlicensed games together. I figured I should make an alphabetical version just because some people prefer alphabetical order and that's what I prefer. I think you did an incredible job putting this guide together and I'm not trying to replace it. This is just an alternate way of reading the guide. I also didn't bother to include stuff like test carts and competition carts, since I don't count those and not everyone is interested in them. I look forward to seeing what you'll add in the future and I'll try my best to keep this spreadsheet up to date.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YtsGai1RlQ99uFsLhAxnunPukuf6noGwgYdk9ec7-QI/edit?usp=sharing

JL - Great job taking initiative to put this together! 

Posted a small update with some minor tweaks to the licensed library.

Adjusted a few rarities. Nothing moved more than 1 spot so its not worth really noting.

Did you just pull the Nintendoage list or is this your own scale?

6 minutes ago, Foochie776 said:

Did you just pull the Nintendoage list or is this your own scale?

My own scale.

NA had a good base but things like chubby cherub were R4, and there were only four or five R1s. Stadium Events was R9

19 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

My own scale.

NA had a good base but things like chubby cherub were R4, and there were only four or five R1s. Stadium Events was R9

It looks good, my only thing is Ducktales 2 feels more of a 6 to me. It’s not common but in comparison to the other 7’s it feels like an outlier. Rarity is very subjective though. Lol

3 minutes ago, Foochie776 said:

It looks good, my only thing is Ducktales 2 feels more of a 6 to me. It’s not common but in comparison to the other 7’s it feels like an outlier. Rarity is very subjective though. Lol

Believe it or not, I had it at 6 before I updated it today! It was literally one of the harder ones to pinpoint where I wanted it.

12 hours ago, ThePhleo said:

Believe it or not, I had it at 6 before I updated it today! It was literally one of the harder ones to pinpoint where I wanted it.

That’s funny, yeah it’s weird because it’s definitely harder to find but I don’t think it’s that bad. Like I’ve never seen one physically in the wild (aside from shows and other collectors) but it’s readily available 

Just a thought, but it seems the Taito games 1992-1994 all seem to be higher rarity. Do you think they might have each had the same # printed?

Small edit.

Adjusted the rarity on a like...4 games. Also, forget about price charts...they change daily.